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Old 12-17-2012, 02:49 PM
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He's also on pace for 661 attempts (behind only Matt Stafford). If he holds that pace, it would be an all-time top 10 season as far as attempts go. So of course he's throwing a lot of 300 yard games.
You are missing the most important stat of all. Wins.

Who cares what his numbers are, as long as he's winning? The worst team in the league last year has become a playoff contender under his watch. As I recall, this is much the same logic that we Bengals' fans used this time last year to argue why Dalton was/is better than Cam Newton.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:47 PM
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I love Russell Wilson (even mocked him to the Bengals before the draft). He's definitely in the conversation for ROY and he's performed better than Luck, but RGIII has been absolutely phenomenal in every facet a QB can be.

He's like a young Mike Vick, except he's already a MUCH better passer than Vick ever was, and he has a good head on his shoulders to boot. If the Skins make the playoffs (it looks like they will), then I don't see how he isn't ROY.
Yea, his numbers are great and I respect your point for RG3, but I lean towards Wilson for the reasons I mentioned as far as having to earn his spot. All the first team reps from day one of OTAs was a huge advantage for Griffin.

Either way, Luck should not win ROY. Although I think he is very good and his numbers will improve as his supporting cast does. The Colts record is a result of a ridiculously easy schedule.

This is where we see the other side of the QB focused analysis that most ppl employ. If the Colts were 5-9, and Luck put up the same numbers, ppl would be screaming bust......But I wouldn't.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:53 PM
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Yea, his numbers are great and I respect your point for RG3, but I lean towards Wilson for the reasons I mentioned as far as having to earn his spot. All the first team reps from day one of OTAs was a huge advantage for Griffin.

Either way, Luck should not win ROY. Although I think he is very good and his numbers will improve as his supporting cast does. The Colts record is a result of a ridiculously easy schedule.

This is where we see the other side of the QB focused analysis that most ppl employ. If the Colts were 5-9, and Luck put up the same numbers, ppl would be screaming bust......But I wouldn't.
Exactly. I don't think Luck will be a bust, but his performance doesn't match the hype he's currently getting. That's all I'm saying with this thread. I actually think Luck will be a solid QB in the future, although I don't think he'll ever reach the Manning/Elway level people were projecting before the draft.
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What baffles me is that people even consider Luck in the conversation for ROY with what RGIII is doing (all rankings include QBs with at leat 100 Attempts).
People can hype Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III for Rookie of the Year but I think the honor should go to Russell Wilson of the Seahawks. That kid can flat-out play.
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Exactly. I don't think Luck will be a bust, but his performance doesn't match the hype he's currently getting. That's all I'm saying with this thread. I actually think Luck will be a solid QB in the future, although I don't think he'll ever reach the Manning/Elway level people were projecting before the draft.
Yea, the hype train for that kid had been gaining steam since 2010.
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