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Old 12-22-2012, 03:24 AM
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I guess 54% completions and 23 turnovers = elite these days?
On that Colts team? Yes, yes it does.
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I guess 54% completions and 23 turnovers = elite these days?
He said NEVER make sure you read properly before making yourself look bad.
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Old 12-22-2012, 03:25 AM
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Now you're the idiot.
Your an idiot if you really think Luck is one of the top 5 qb's in the league lol.
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He said NEVER make sure you read properly before making yourself look bad.

You have no room to call anybody an idiot then...can you predict the future or something smart guy?
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Your an idiot if you really think Luck is one of the top 5 qb's in the league lol.

You're the idiot when you don't even comprehend what you even said.You said NEVER "that means at any point during his career, that does not mean any particular year". The more I see your posts the better off I see it'd be better if you didn't.
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You're the idiot when you don't even comprehend what you even said.You said NEVER "that means at any point during his career, that does not mean any particular year". The more I see your posts the better off I see it'd be better if you didn't.
Yeah, thats what i meant dumb ***. He will NEVER be in the same category as a Hall of fame qb. (Brady, Manning, Rodgers).
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Old 12-22-2012, 03:32 AM
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Luck isn't an elite qb and will never be in the same category as Manning, Brady, & Rodgers.
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He said NEVER make sure you read properly before making yourself look bad.
He said Luck isn't an elite QB now, and he never will be. You could've just as easily been calling him an idiot for saying he's not elite NOW.

Either way, how is he an idiot for saying Luck will never be elite?

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On that Colts team? Yes, yes it does.
Nothing is good about that team, and that includes Luck. 23 turnovers is terrible. They're just finding teams that are even worse than them.
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He said Luck isn't an elite QB now, and he never will be. You could've just as easily been calling him an idiot for saying he's not elite NOW.

Either way, how is he an idiot for saying Luck will never be elite?



Nothing is good about that team, and that includes Luck. 23 turnovers is terrible. They're just finding teams that are even worse than them.
Yeah and most of those turnovers were early on in the season as well. Luck has "IT" he wins games they may not should win and he has all the intangibles to go with it! He's showing alot of the same characteristics that Manning has shown time and time again. He has all the tools and if he can help them win 10 games this year with that team,it's gonna be scarey once they get some more players around him in 2 or 3 years. It's not that hard to see he's gonna be one of the best in the league one day.
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He said Luck isn't an elite QB now, and he never will be. You could've just as easily been calling him an idiot for saying he's not elite NOW.

Either way, how is he an idiot for saying Luck will never be elite?



Nothing is good about that team, and that includes Luck. 23 turnovers is terrible. They're just finding teams that are even worse than them.
If you wanna talk TO's Dalton isn't that much better with 18.
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Yeah and most of those turnovers were early on in the season as well. Luck has "IT" he wins games they may not should win and he has all the intangibles to go with it! He's showing alot of the same characteristics that Manning has shown time and time again. He has all the tools and if he can help them win 10 games this year with that team,it's gonna be scarey once they get some more players around him in 2 or 3 years. It's not that hard to see he's gonna be one of the best in the league one day.
False. Luck has 10 ints and 2 lost fumbles in his last 6 games (2 turnovers per game avg).

http://www.nfl.com/player/andrewluck/2533031/gamelogs

And what is "it" exactly? I've watched some Colts games and Luck only hits receivers when they're wide open. I've yet to see him throw accurately into a tight window. When he tries that it usually gets picked off. Is that what "it" is? Or maybe "it" is just hype.


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If you wanna talk TO's Dalton isn't that much better with 18.
6 fewer turnovers is a pretty big difference over only 14 games. That's almost half a turnover less per game.
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false. Luck has 10 ints and 2 lost fumbles in his last 6 games (2 turnovers per game avg).

http://www.nfl.com/player/andrewluck/2533031/gamelogs

and what is "it" exactly? I've watched some colts games and luck only hits receivers when they're wide open. I've yet to see him throw accurately into a tight window. When he tries that it usually gets picked off. Is that what "it" is? Or maybe "it" is just hype.




6 fewer turnovers is a pretty big difference over only 14 games. That's almost half a turnover less per game.

23-18 = 5 not 6 How many rookie QB's have came into the league and threw for over 4,000 yds and leading their team to the playoffs, VERY FEW, yeah I'm sure that's all HYPE as you say LOL.

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Old 12-23-2012, 12:07 PM
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So, Kirkpatrick, Zeitler, and Dalton for Luck? I have no problem saying I would take that deal in a minute. I have watched all the Colts games this year and am astounded at what he has done with that team. No one is doing more with less.
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