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Old 12-14-2012, 12:20 AM
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Default Wallace Gilberry

This dude has 6 sacks and looks like a beast in limited snaps.

If it were up to me, I would think about letting MJ get a big contract somewhere else.

Keep Gilberry and save $ for other big contracts we have coming up (Andre, Geno, AJ, Dalton).

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Old 12-14-2012, 12:22 AM
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Keep him around, but try to resign MJ
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:23 AM
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MJ's not going to get a big contract, IMHO. He's not all that. Anyone can see that from watching the games. But I like Gilberry, too.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: Wallace Gilberry

Part of the reason Gilberry has looked so good, was he is rested.

Most games MJ plays the most snaps of any D lineman we have.

I say sign MJ, and Gilberry to good contracts.

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Old 12-14-2012, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: Wallace Gilberry

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MJ's not going to get a big contract, IMHO. He's not all that. Anyone can see that from watching the games. But I like Gilberry, too.


Sorry but I disagree. I think MJ is a very good DE. He has improved every year as a pass rusher while playing the most snaps the past 2 yrs in our vaunted Dline rotation. And not to mention how well he plays the run. And to be honest, I don't think he has reached his peak. We will be very sorry if we are not able to resign him. Just keep in mind he goes against the best opposing offensive lineman every game.



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Default Re: Wallace Gilberry

Gilberry has been a very good surprise this year, but he won't replace MJ. If we're going to get rid of an end, it had better be Geathers because he's nothing more than average. MJ made some plays tonight and so did Gilberry. Sign both, and let Geathers go.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:39 AM
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Re-sign Gilberry...Give Geathers the boot.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:49 AM
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Sorry but I disagree. I think MJ is a very good DE. He has improved every year as a pass rusher while playing the most snaps the past 2 yrs in our vaunted Dline rotation. And not to mention how well he plays the run. And to be honest, I don't think he has reached his peak. We will be very sorry if we are not able to resign him. Just keep in mind he goes against the best opposing offensive lineman every game.

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Oh, I think we ought to resign him, but I don't think he's going to attract any huge offers.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:51 AM
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With 6 sacks here, and the success he's already had in KC, I don't think we can keep both MJ and Gilberry. They're both going to get serious raises after this year. I just think MJ is going to be more expensive than Gilberry.
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6. Drop Lawson, draft a replacement [ x ]
7. Draft a center and let him battle with Cook & Robinson [ ]
8. Let Clements go [ x ]
9. Bring back Andre Smith [ x ]
10. Bring back MJ (as long as he doesn't demand elite money) [ x ]

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Old 12-14-2012, 12:53 AM
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Re-sign Gilberry...Give Geathers the boot.
Now you're talking! I think Robert Geathers is a good defensive end but in this league a team needs great defensive ends to compete. Wallace Gilberry is a gamer; I like him a lot and he brings some swagger to the defensive line. So does Michael Johnson when he plays the right technique.
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Gilberry has been a very good surprise this year, but he won't replace MJ. If we're going to get rid of an end, it had better be Geathers because he's nothing more than average. MJ made some plays tonight and so did Gilberry. Sign both, and let Geathers go.
Bingo.

14.5 sacks coming from RE is good. I wouldn't go as far as to say he's the guy you re-sign over MJ tho.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Wallace Gilberry

Geathers is like the one veteran member of this team. I think it's time for him to think about retirement, I'd like to see him retire as a Bengal than to get the boot.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: Wallace Gilberry

Or we can...just sign our whole D line again and be a top 3 sack team again :()


People always want to change stuff....well i fyou dont have to why do it?

MJ isnt gonna command much money. Hes a young player whose only getting better so he'll get a good offer but definitely somethin we can match....As I always say tho...if someone goes for him with a CRAZY offer....just give a salute and say bye
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Bingo.

14.5 sacks coming from RE is good. I wouldn't go as far as to say he's the guy you re-sign over MJ tho.
Wallace Gilberry

Just turned 28.
60 games
19 sacks
5 forced fumbles
5 fumble recoveries

Michael Johnson

About to turn 26
62 games
20 sacks
1 forced fumble
2 fumble recoveries

I don't see what the big difference is from a pass rushing perspective.

People scoff at the idea because they're so familiar with MJ, and they feel Gilberry came out of nowhere to have this fluky season. What they don't realize is that Gilberry was great in KC before he came here:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...s-city-chiefs/

If we can bring back both, then great. I just feel like Gilberry will be a better deal. We do have some big contracts coming up soon (Andre, Geno, AJ, Andy).
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5. Draft a SS high [ x ]
6. Drop Lawson, draft a replacement [ x ]
7. Draft a center and let him battle with Cook & Robinson [ ]
8. Let Clements go [ x ]
9. Bring back Andre Smith [ x ]
10. Bring back MJ (as long as he doesn't demand elite money) [ x ]

These things need to happen to take the next step

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Old 12-15-2012, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: Wallace Gilberry

Gillberry definately needs to be resigned. Love his impact during thr game. MJ has played well this year. I dont find him special though. I could see him walk and we draft a DE first round. But keeping continuity on D helps.
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:04 AM
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Keep him, hes more than replaced Rucker and Fanene.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:50 AM
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Keep him around, but try to resign MJ
This. Takes DE out of the draft conversation unless someone falls into your lap.
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He has been great this year in his limited role
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: Wallace Gilberry

Kind of reminds me of Frostee Rucker. He couldn't stay healthy, and wouldn't get a ton of snaps, but when he did, all he did was produce.

Great pick up and makes for terrific leverage when dealing to re-sign MJ this off season.
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wallace gilberry < mario williams
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