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Old 12-23-2012, 11:00 PM
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The quality of the defensive opponents.....
I don't know ... Philly were pretty pathetic on D for weeks before they played us. Even Pitt were coming off back-to-back tough defensive outings as their injuries mounted ... 3 TD passes conceded to Philip Rivers, followed by allowing 415 yards to Dallas.
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Had to watch the game on a stream today and although it was good, it was not good enough to catch the Olinemen's number. So my question it 2 fold. Did we rotate and if so which played better? Cause it seemed like we couldn't do anything up the middle.
I saw Cook blow any assignment faster than Andy could take 3 steps.
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I saw Cook blow.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:11 PM
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Even Berserker would have to admit that Cook had a bad game today.

Ok, he probably wouldn't.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:29 PM
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Coaches also let Boom go inactive while activating Allen, who was called for a hold on Pacman's big return which cost us about 80 some yards or so. I dont get it considering Herron was actually producing some meaningful plays for the team as of late as was Robinson.
I agree on that being another example of stupid coaching.

This team would win the division with good coaching.

Marvin Lewis has cost this team more than one game and more than one playoff season.
He is not even a average HC.

We need to can several fo the coaches.
Zimmer should be HC, and let him keep who he wants, and can who he wants.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:58 AM
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I'd have to back off what I implied earlier in the thread about the pass protection. I've just got done watching a replay of the game on NFL rewind and actually the protection was pretty good most of the game. 6 sacks sounds bad, but actually watching the game again in a calmer frame of mind, those 6 sacks were some of the very few plays there was actually pressure on Dalton. Most other pass attempts were pretty clean. Considering the number of passes we threw that's pretty good.
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:01 AM
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I'd have to back off what I implied earlier in the thread about the pass protection. I've just got done watching a replay of the game on NFL rewind and actually the protection was pretty good most of the game. 6 sacks sounds bad, but actually watching the game again in a calmer frame of mind, those 6 sacks were some of the very few plays there was actually pressure on Dalton. Most other pass attempts were pretty clean. Considering the number of passes we threw that's pretty good.
But the run blocking was atrocious. They have to be better in the playoffs, without question. I think they will be.
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:08 AM
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if they dont rotate next week i'll be very confused.

they face a good defense again next week so it should be pretty easy to gauge how the running game is with both centers in, not that you REALLY need more proof after todays performance.

but if the running game suddenly works next week and it does so while robinson is in the game, well then id hate to see them not at the very least keep the rotation going in the playoffs.

pass protection was good today i thought, was like watching how the steelers oline protects big ben, good stuff.
If they don't outright bench Cook I'll be confused. The sack numbers with him back are staggering.
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Old 12-24-2012, 03:03 AM
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We were against the number 1 defense but to be held to less than 20 rush yards is god awful. The only other defenses that scare me in the playoffs are Denver and Houston.

Please use more Charles and Peerman.


If Cook gets 1 min out of the 60 mins over Trevor I will probably be disgusted again.
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Old 12-24-2012, 03:14 AM
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No Robinson at Center, and no Peerman taking any snaps... Probably why the run game blew chunks.
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Thanks, never was a fan of the rotation. Can't say I agree with the choice they made, but I am glad they madie one one. It is obvious the team (Alexander) is committed to Cook.
He lost Livings, and Zeitler is playing too damn well at RG and Smith is a run blocking beast at RT so Roland is out... so I guess Alexander moved all of his affection onto Cook as his new "guy".
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To be fair, I believe activating Allen was a necessity. Adam Jones was questionable to play and we were down to 2 healthy CBs - Hall and Newman. Kirkpatrick still concussed, they needed Allen as an injury backup.
Yeah I don't get why people are complaining about this. Pretty dumb IMO.
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Yeah I don't get why people are complaining about this. Pretty dumb IMO.
I understand why they needed to activate him, otherwise they'd only have 2.5 CBs (yes, Clements is .5) plus a questionable Adam Jones.. but I think people are more upset that Boom was inactive after having a tipped punt two weeks ago, and then a blocked/recovered punt a week ago, on top of actually getting positive/even yards on a couple runs that should have been like -4 and -6.

The guy got a chance to play and stepped up HUGE, so surely there could have been someone else who could be deactivated to make room for Boom. Also, Allen finally showing up and the first time most people recall seeing him on TV is him making the Bengals lose 72 yards in field position. Not a good first impression. Hah
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Old 12-24-2012, 06:29 AM
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Had to watch the game on a stream today and although it was good, it was not good enough to catch the Olinemen's number. So my question it 2 fold. Did we rotate and if so which played better? Cause it seemed like we couldn't do anything up the middle.
We could not do anything up the middle because they were loading the box. It was apparent they came to stop the run and were going to make Andy beat them by throwing outside.
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We could not do anything up the middle because they were loading the box. It was apparent they came to stop the run and were going to make Andy beat them by throwing outside.
We could of at least attempted to spread them out by taking a few shots outside.
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We could of at least attempted to spread them out by taking a few shots outside.
You are not talking about an average defense. These guys are very disciplined. It is easy to say we could have done that but with a safety like Troy P. it is much harder to actually do it.

As well, Benny is not an outside runner and you have to remember that Peerman has had an ankle injury. Even then the success of Peerman has really also been up the middle and getting thru creases.
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Besides getting up from the bench a couple times to get some water, no.
Actually, Peerman was in on the Punt Teams.
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:35 AM
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In all fairness to Cook and Tue line, those guys are no pushovers, and they gameplanned against the run up the middle
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Had to watch the game on a stream today and although it was good, it was not good enough to catch the Olinemen's number. So my question it 2 fold. Did we rotate and if so which played better? Cause it seemed like we couldn't do anything up the middle.
Cook played all snaps.... no push up the middle seems about what ive been seeing the last few weeks..

Pass blocking was okay on a few plays. but not many.
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Actually, Peerman was in on the Punt Teams.
So was Allen who is finally contributing (Penalty Flags **** me)
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Yes, we rotated..........























...the Steelers right out of the playoffs.
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Cook, master of the WATCH OUT, block.
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The O line looked like crap today.
Cook got owned the entire game.

Every pass play he was being pushed back into the pocket.

It is clear Robinson is the better Center, and needs to start.

Once again we let good talent set, so **** poor talent can play.

Alexander had Livings playing ahead of people, that alone shows he an idiot when it comes to judging talent.
I saw Cook get beat for at least two of the sacks flat out.
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I saw Cook get beat for at least two of the sacks flat out.
Was that the one where Connor had the assignment of blocking the pass rusher up the middle?
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Kyle Cook is like the exact opposite of Pat Sims. Both have been out a good amount of the year. When Sims is in, the DL seems to play better as a whole. When Cook is in, the OL seems to play worse as a whole.

I hope that since next week's game does not matter much, Robinson gets his chance to play against the Ravens. The coaches cannot use the excuse of "Cook has the experience against our division rivals". This prevents Robinson from ever gaining that experience, and Robinson has earned the right to play against a division rival.
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