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If Ravens beat Bengals. Pats might lose to Dolphins intentionally they would rather play Colts than Bengals. Its not just me I heard this scenario discussed on pro football talk.

Absolutely not.

billicheck knows he can easily outcoach marvin, its beyond me why anybody would think the pats are afraid of us.
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Best front 4 in football and they would rather play us? I don't believe this BS for a second.

We are the exact type of Defense they would want to avoid and they know they can beat the Colts up.

That being said they won't throw a game when they have a chance for a first round bye.


Is this a joke?? Where do you peeps come up with this silly s##t?

"We are the exact type of Defense they would want to avoid"

LMAO are you freaking serious?

Our secondary stinks,,,our coaching is supspect AT BEST,,,and we ABSOLUTELY CANNOT cover TEs,,,of which NE uses TWO GREAT TEs and you think they are scared of our defense? Our defense is perfectly matched for them to easily score 30 points lol.
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Yea, i think ur right too. If the Texans beat the Colts as well, then I'd look for the Pats to sit guys against Miami cuz at that point they'll be locked into a home game against the Bengals in the WC round. Chiefs ain't winning in Denver cuz Denver knows if they win they get a bye, so everyone knows they're gonna beat the brakes of KC.

Yea, it's gonna be the Bengals at New England. It will be a good game, I think we can beat them.


LOL based on what? That pipe you just smoked? Brady and billicheck will dismantle our team with ease.
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LOL based on what? That pipe you just smoked? Brady and billicheck will dismantle our team with ease.
You may be right, but what they're talking about matchup wise is pressure. The Giants showed everyone that the only way to consistently beat NE is pressure and the Bengals lead the league in sacks. That being said I highly doubt NE is shaking in fear at the thought of playing the Bengals though.
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Wouldn't be a bad idea, the Colts are definitely the weakest team in the playoffs this year.

I feel good about the Bengals chances, I think they can beat anyone out there. I don't think Colts have any shot at all of winning a playoff game regardless of who they end up playing.

The teams they've beaten (except GB way early in the season) are all terrible, and they're still barely beating them.
Yep if we played the Colts i'd be confident we'd get our first playoff win under Marvin Lewis. Honestly I don't think they "scare" anybody. They overachieved thanks to great QB play by their rookie but their defense and position groups leaves a lot to be desired.
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LOL based on what? That pipe you just smoked? Brady and billicheck will dismantle our team with ease.
With ease? Yea right. You're certainly not giving our D enough credit. We'd likely be one of the top two or three (if not number one) defenses if it wasn't for the early season struggles.
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If Ravens beat Bengals. Pats might lose to Dolphins intentionally they would rather play Colts than Bengals. Its not just me I heard this scenario discussed on pro football talk.
Number one; the Patriots are not going to lose a game on purpose. Period.
Number two; the Patriots are not afraid, in the least, of playing the Bengals.
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Is this a joke?? Where do you peeps come up with this silly s##t?

"We are the exact type of Defense they would want to avoid"

LMAO are you freaking serious?

Our secondary stinks,,,our coaching is supspect AT BEST,,,and we ABSOLUTELY CANNOT cover TEs,,,of which NE uses TWO GREAT TEs and you think they are scared of our defense? Our defense is perfectly matched for them to easily score 30 points lol.
You probably said the same thing when they played the Ravens in 2009, or the Jets in 2010

Their own writers said the 49ers created the blueprint to beat them with a pass rush who generates relentless presure on Brady without blitzing and what do you think the Bengals did yesterday?? did you even watch the game?? did you see what the Jaguars were doing to the Patriots?? Get over yourself, nobody wants to play the Bengals right now
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If Ravens beat Bengals. Pats might lose to Dolphins intentionally they would rather play Colts than Bengals. Its not just me I heard this scenario discussed on pro football talk.
They would never lose on purpose. Takes too much away from your team.

But, they could play backups and rest starters.
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Old 12-24-2012, 08:43 PM
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Teams don't just throw games and the Ravens and Harbaugh aren't going to let a divisional rival beat them just to play a specific team in the playoffs.

Maybe you don't try as hard or sit players who you don't want to get injured, but they still want to win this game. And the Pats still want to beat the Dolphins. If you don't get that, you don't get football.
They will if it gets them a better path in the playoffs and if you were the Ravens what would you choose? Lose and get the better matchup of 2 rounds or Win and get the tougher matchup of 2 rounds?

Win, host Bengals and guarantee a trip to Denver with a win?
Lose, host Colts and probable trip to Houston with a win?
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LOL based on what? That pipe you just smoked? Brady and billicheck will dismantle our team with ease.
The Ravens, Steelers and Giants have proven over the years that if you can get good pressure on Brady, they can be had so I wouldn't be so sure. Their defense is average overall and can def be thrown on. Like I said, the Bengals can beat that team.
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Patriots are still fighting for home field advantage I doubt they just throw the game.
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Patriots are still fighting for home field advantage I doubt they just throw the game.
exactly, and they play at 4pm at the same time as the Broncos so their only incentive is to win with the bye week still available as they play
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:25 PM
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Number one; the Patriots are not going to lose a game on purpose. Period.
Number two; the Patriots are not afraid, in the least, of playing the Bengals.
To the first thing, see below. When ppl say "lose on purpose" all they really mean is rest the starters.

To the second point, I don't think the Pats are "scared" of anyone. If they gain nothing from winning and get an easier match up if they don't win, they could well rest/protect their starters. That doesn't mean they're "scared" though. Teams do it all the time when they can no longer get a bye/already have a bye locked up.

Knowing the Bengals are probably going to be playing them in the first round, I'd be thanking my lucky stars if Brady got hurt in the fourth quarter of a meaningless Dolphins game. Ordinarily, I'd rather beat them at full strength, but I'm desperate to see the Bengals win a playoff game so I'll take however I can get it.

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exactly, and they play at 4pm at the same time as the Broncos so their only incentive is to win with the bye week still available as they play
Only way that bye week is really potentially still available is if the Colts beat the Texans at 1pm. If that don't happen, the Pats will begin their game with the Dolphins know full well they are not getting a bye cuz KC ain't winning in Denver.
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Only way that bye week is really potentially still available is if the Colts beat the Texans at 1pm. If that don't happen, the Pats will begin their game with the Dolphins know full well they are not getting a bye cuz KC ain't winning in Denver.
We would expect Denver not to lose that game but it doesnt change the scenario for the Patriots that they have a chance for the bye if they at least win, what Denver does is out of their control but in the last 2 Chiefs/Broncos season finales, the Chiefs won them both so I dont know if it would be an easy game for the Broncos but it could be a tricky game seeing as their first meeting was also a tricky game
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LOL based on what? That pipe you just smoked? Brady and billicheck will dismantle our team with ease.
Negative nancy I guess we should just forfeit the game then. Giants should have been to scared to play them according to you. Brady as great as he is when he gets hit isn't as good. Plus their defense is a turnstile as bad as our offense is we could still hang points on them. While I think they would win I can't see a blow out
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With ease? Yea right. You're certainly not giving our D enough credit. We'd likely be one of the top two or three (if not number one) defenses if it wasn't for the early season struggles.
I agree plus our defense doesn't have to be as good against them because their d we should be able to score on. Everyone is so down on our offense because of yesterday but Pitt is the top d in football. We won't face any defenses near as good in the playoffs.
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No, the Pats will not lose on purpose. They just won a poorly played game at Jacksonville and lost last week at home to the Niners. Belichick will want his team tuned up for the playoffs, I bet anything on that.
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Negative nancy I guess we should just forfeit the game then. Giants should have been to scared to play them according to you. Brady as great as he is when he gets hit isn't as good. Plus their defense is a turnstile as bad as our offense is we could still hang points on them. While I think they would win I can't see a blow out
The big advantage the Patriots have against us is coaching and X's and O's. We definately have weaknesses and they have the personnel to exploit them.

The 2nd Advantage is they have 2 awesome pass catching TE's. We have had trouble against this.

I'm happy that we made the playoffs...but we've mainly beat really bad teams for the past 2 years. The Patriots are definately at the next level.

We do have some chance of beating them. That chance is if Brady turns the ball over a lot...which he typically doesn't do. Also, if we can pressure him. He's similar to Peyton Manning who we got ZERO pressure on.
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Number one; the Patriots are not going to lose a game on purpose. Period.
Number two; the Patriots are not afraid, in the least, of playing the Bengals.
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I'm not looking forward to playing NE. First of all, they're my favorite team other than the Bengals. Secondly, I can see Brady picking off our secondary like no body's business. But out D line is so disruptive, I definitely see Brady having a hard time with them...

Like someone mentioned before, they have the coaching, the QB's, the receiver, etc. BUT, we have the Law Firm and a few other players who've played under Belichick. Don't know if that is very helpful, but it's something. And, we've got a young and hungry team of level headed guys that might just surprise all those nay-sayers out there!
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While we are winning...we've struggled the past few games and have holes that the Patriots have the personnel to exploit.
We've been giving up 12 points a game in like the last 6 or 7 games. How is that struggling?
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