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Old 12-25-2012, 02:31 AM
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As of right now, we have the 2nd best defense of all the AFC teams in the playoffs.

TOTAL D ranking in the NFL
Denver - 3
Cincinnati - 6
Houston - 9
Baltimore - 20
Indy - 26
New England - 27

So yeah, I'll be happy to pay the Patriots. Best way to keep Brady from scoring is to keep him off the field. We've got the team to do that. WHO DEY!
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Tom Brady in the playoffs is the last person on earth that I want to play.

We do have an damn good defense, but it's Tom Brady in the playoffs.

The guy has appeared in almost half of the Super Bowls since the turn of the century.

I won't be afraid and I think that our pass rush could disrupt them, just like the Giants did in the Super Bowl in '08 with the Pats, but the dude is an artist and is the most clutch quarterback in NFL history.

He plays close to flawless.
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Of those teams I would love to face Baltimore the most followed by Indy.

Houston, Denver, and New England all have great explosive offenses that would challenge our weakness in the second and third levels of our defense.
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Tom Brady in the playoffs is the last person on earth that I want to play.

We do have an damn good defense, but it's Tom Brady in the playoffs.

The guy has appeared in almost half of the Super Bowls since the turn of the century.

I won't be afraid and I think that our pass rush could disrupt them, just like the Giants did in the Super Bowl in '08 with the Pats, but the dude is an artist and is the most clutch quarterback in NFL history.

He plays close to flawless.
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Tom Brady in the playoffs is the last person on earth that I want to play.

We do have an damn good defense, but it's Tom Brady in the playoffs.

The guy has appeared in almost half of the Super Bowls since the turn of the century.

I won't be afraid and I think that our pass rush could disrupt them, just like the Giants did in the Super Bowl in '08 with the Pats, but the dude is an artist and is the most clutch quarterback in NFL history.

He plays close to flawless.
Brady doesn't scare me, I actually think NE plays into our hands a tuly. They are one dimensional on O so our front four can rush. And our offense can move it vs there d. Heck brat moved it vs them Sunday
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In the past seven weeks, the Bengals have the number one defense in the league, giving up around 270 yards a game, 11.7 points a game, 25 sacks and have held teams to one or no touchdowns six times.

Regardless of offense, defense makes this team a very formidable opponent.
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Tom Brady in the playoffs is the last person on earth that I want to play.

We do have an damn good defense, but it's Tom Brady in the playoffs.

The guy has appeared in almost half of the Super Bowls since the turn of the century.

I won't be afraid and I think that our pass rush could disrupt them, just like the Giants did in the Super Bowl in '08 with the Pats, but the dude is an artist and is the most clutch quarterback in NFL history.

He plays close to flawless.
In 5 Super Bowl appearances, Brady is 3-2. While I give him credit for getting there five times, the AFC East isn't the strongest division in the AFC. He's a good QB, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't scare me. They've put up alot of points this year. That's the part that has me a bit nervous. They're the top offense, but our defense can beat them provided our offense plays up to its ability and keeps Brady on the bench.
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In 5 Super Bowl appearances, Brady is 3-2. While I give him credit for getting there five times, the AFC East isn't the strongest division in the AFC. He's a good QB, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't scare me. They've put up alot of points this year. That's the part that has me a bit nervous. They're the top offense, but our defense can beat them provided our offense plays up to its ability and keeps Brady on the bench.
And Brady gets tamed with up the middle pass rush - enter Geno ! ! !
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In the past seven weeks, the Bengals have the number one defense in the league, giving up around 270 yards a game, 11.7 points a game, 25 sacks and have held teams to one or no touchdowns six times.

Regardless of offense, defense makes this team a very formidable opponent.
Amen, brother. Impressive defensive run and I think the D is still on the upswing. With this D, if the O shows up a little bit, we have a chance to beat anybody.
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I'd like to see Cincy play New England. It'd give me and my buddy a chance to actually hang out and watch the same football game for the first time since the 2010 season opener.
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Our strength is d line....so what you should do is start with 1 on 1 matchups of the teams o and d lines. What team is going to allow Geno Dunlap and MJ to get off?


Colts
LT

Anthony Castonzo

Bradley Sowell





LG

Joe Reitz

Jeff Linkenbach

Seth Olsen




C

Samson Satele

A.Q. Shipley





RG

Mike McGlynn

Tony Hills





RT

Winston Justice


BRONCOS

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Ryan Clady

Chris Clark





LG

Zane Beadles

Manny Ramirez





C

Dan Koppen

C.J. Davis





RG

Chris Kuper

Manny Ramirez





RT

Orlando Franklin

Chris Clark
PATRIOTS

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Nate Solder

Marcus Cannon





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Logan Mankins

Donald Thomas





C

Ryan Wendell

Nick McDonald





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Dan Connolly

Nick McDonald

Markus Zusevics




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Sebastian Vollmer

Marcus Cannon
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Im about to go through that list looking at each individual and make my analysis....stand by
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Gronk and hernadez scare me!
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As of right now, we have the 2nd best defense of all the AFC teams in the playoffs.

TOTAL D ranking in the NFL
Denver - 3
Cincinnati - 6
Houston - 9
Baltimore - 20
Indy - 26
New England - 27

So yeah, I'll be happy to pay the Patriots. Best way to keep Brady from scoring is to keep him off the field. We've got the team to do that. WHO DEY!
Brady is a great QB who is 35 years old. He is one hit away from retirement or at the least from being out for the game. We have the DC and the defensive line to hit him ealry and often. The Pats OL has stuggles this year protecting Brady. I look forward to the chance to beat the best.
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In terms of Geno I looked at centers and guards.....NO C will be any problem for Geno. He would decimate the Colts guards maybe even if they double teammed him all game, now id expect the Broncos to give a problem to Geno if their gameplan was to slow him down. 1 on 1Geno can destroy any Bronco lineman, but with the expierence they have and skill if they doubled Geno I could only see him making noise every couple of plays. If we played Colts I guaruntee Geno would be in Lucks face almost every play. Patriots scare me less than Broncos in terms of a Geno Matchup but again they have expeirence and if their goal was to stop Geno at all costs I could see them quieting Geno. In both of these cases tho, MJ and Dunlap would have the avenue to run rampant because they would be 1 on 1 on the outside. If the QBs werent throwing quickly they could do work.

So pretty much if we play the Colts I expect Geno to DOMINATE, if we get NE or DEN he will have a good game but if the Pats or Broncos gameplan towards him and double him constantly MJ and Dunlap will have to beat their man and get pressure which I believe they can but middle pressure is way better than outside pressure because the QB sees middle pressure immeadiatly and has to react.

I dont see any of these 3 o lines containing our rush tho
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Brady is a HOF QB. They will challenge our LB with Welker, Gronk, and Hernandez, focusing either on Rey because of his poor play or Burfict because of his lack of experience. Brady will throw the long ball a few times if given the time to challenge our weak secondary.

I don't know what everyone smoked on these forums, but Brady scares the crap out of me. IF we play NE, we will have to out gun their offense, look for the score to be in the 20-30 on both sides.
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Brady is a HOF QB. They will challenge our LB with Welker, Gronk, and Hernandez, focusing either on Rey because of his poor play or Burfict because of his lack of experience. Brady will throw the long ball a few times if given the time to challenge our weak secondary.

I don't know what everyone smoked on these forums, but Brady scares the crap out of me. IF we play NE, we will have to out gun their offense, look for the score to be in the 20-30 on both sides.

You don't beat Brady by outgunning him. You beat him by beating the crap out of him for four quarters. Sure, you have to score, but wide open and high scoring is a recipe for disaster.

Belicheck scares me more than Brady. He's the one so skilled at game planning your best players out of the game.
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Belichek is the real problem for us and New England.

Agreed with comment on AFC East. New England gets to play Miami, Buffalo and Jets twice a year. That is a lot different than playing Steelers, Ravens, Bengals - and the Browns are getting a lot better.

If we can rush four and run the ball against New England we can beat them. The run game is extremely important to Andy's success right now.

I think we can do both against New Engalnd and be in the position to win the game in the fourth quarter.

I don't want to play Denver until AFC championship and I hope someone knocks them out before we play them. My bet is they wiil end up playing the Ravens.
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Brady is a HOF QB. They will challenge our LB with Welker, Gronk, and Hernandez, focusing either on Rey because of his poor play or Burfict because of his lack of experience. Brady will throw the long ball a few times if given the time to challenge our weak secondary.

I don't know what everyone smoked on these forums, but Brady scares the crap out of me. IF we play NE, we will have to out gun their offense, look for the score to be in the 20-30 on both sides.
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lll just combine MJ and Dunlaps analysis.

Our guys are very fast for DEs and they are finesse speed rushers.

ALL the tackles we would face are HUGE guys. we would have the athletic advantage over all of them. With that said all the tackles scare me. All are very sound and I feel could contain our guys consistently. For our DEs to get off they will need to be in constant 1 on 1 situations in space. Meaning Peko and Geno are going to have to play the games of their careers if we see NE, or DEN.

On top of that we would be facing some decent blocking RBs for all teams. Colts have a rookie RB so id assume hes the worse but you never know. Broncos RB and FB rotation is scary.


So pretty much all these teams look scary but going by the numbers SOLELY for O line VS Dl line matchups we want Colts, Patriots, then Broncos.
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Tom Brady in the playoffs is the last person on earth that I want to play.

We do have an damn good defense, but it's Tom Brady in the playoffs.

The guy has appeared in almost half of the Super Bowls since the turn of the century.

I won't be afraid and I think that our pass rush could disrupt them, just like the Giants did in the Super Bowl in '08 with the Pats, but the dude is an artist and is the most clutch quarterback in NFL history.

He plays close to flawless.
Very true, but I think our D can handle him, and you talk about about something that would make the talking heads start to spinnin'! They'd not know what to say. LOL

I think Indy or Baltimore might be easier options, but this year, I don't fear the Patriots and if we're going to get to the SB we're going to have face a couple of these top teams and win so, with that said, bring 'em on.

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Amen, brother. Impressive defensive run and I think the D is still on the upswing. With this D, if the O shows up a little bit, we have a chance to beat anybody.
Truth! Our defense has played like none other this last several weeks. They are wicked good!
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Tom Brady in the playoffs is the last person on earth that I want to play.

We do have an damn good defense, but it's Tom Brady in the playoffs.

The guy has appeared in almost half of the Super Bowls since the turn of the century.

I won't be afraid and I think that our pass rush could disrupt them, just like the Giants did in the Super Bowl in '08 with the Pats, but the dude is an artist and is the most clutch quarterback in NFL history.

He plays close to flawless.
Actually in the past 3 years, the Patriots only had success in 2011-2012 when they went 2-1 and lost in the SB. They were one and done in 2009-10 and 2010-11. So, Brady is 2-3 in the post-season since 2009.
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As of right now, we have the 2nd best defense of all the AFC teams in the playoffs.

TOTAL D ranking in the NFL
Denver - 3
Cincinnati - 6
Houston - 9
Baltimore - 20
Indy - 26
New England - 27

So yeah, I'll be happy to pay the Patriots. Best way to keep Brady from scoring is to keep him off the field. We've got the team to do that. WHO DEY!
This is why I'm so scared of Denver. They have Peyton Manning AND a top ranked defense.
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I'm not afraid of the Patriots. If we plan on winning in the playoff's and if this Pats team is as good as everyone is saying then we're going to have to play them or the Broncos eventually. You all are forgetting one thing, Gronkowski has missed a lot of time with a broken arm and that wildcard game would be his first game back, if he is even ready by then. Lewis and Zimmer came up with great gameplan last week to stop Miller, they put Leon Hall on him. They are not fast at WR and our other CB's can keep with them if we have too put Hall on TE's. The Patriots under Tom Brady and Bill Belicheck have never won the SB when playing Wildcard weekend. Tom Brady can actually struggle against front seven's that put pressure on him with just their defensive line.
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Alot of people have the idea Brady is a god. He is a great QB but we just beat a great superbowl QB in Ben. And how? Because we rushed, got pressure kept it close and then eventually he said screw it, and we got him to make a mistake. On top of the PITT has a way better WR core all aorund than NE
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