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Old 12-25-2012, 09:38 PM
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And after reading Leon's stats his rookie year it appears it was the 2nd or 3rd best seasons in his 6 year career. I'd say that was successful.
Stats don't always tell the story Leon was served with butter and jelly like any other rookie starting. I have a question do you think Leon is having a good season this year?
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No. I still don't think he would have started, even if he wasn't hurt. As I said, I'm fine with that because we didn't need him. If we did and he was hurt all year, then yea, I'd be disappointed. But given our situation, I know he wouldn't play anyway so I'm not too bothered by it like a lot of people are.

Also, for the record, being drafted at 17 is no different then being drafted at 18 and 24. They're still first round talents and in any given year, they might go differently depending on the needs of the teams ahead of them.
Luckily we didn't need really need him no. Our secondary still has plenty of room for improvement. But I'm scared to death going into next season with Dre penciled as at least the nickel guy when we have no clue what we have in him.
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Luckily we didn't need really need him no. Our secondary still has plenty of room for improvement. But I'm scared to death going into next season with Dre penciled as at least the nickel guy when we have no clue what we have in him.
Fans don't know but the coaches probably have a pretty good idea.
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:41 PM
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Stats for a CB don't tell the whole story. It misses all of the bad plays.
I understand that. But you can't look at his tackles, interceptions, passes defensed, and forced fumbles and tell me a guy had a horrid year...
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Luckily we didn't need really need him no. Our secondary still has plenty of room for improvement. But I'm scared to death going into next season with Dre penciled as at least the nickel guy when we have no clue what we have in him.
Be excited. I am. He's a 6'2 guy with speed and physicality who will have a whole offseason in the weight program to get stronger. He's physical and Marvin has talked really well about him. Not only that but he's learning from some savvy vets.
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I understand that. But you can't look at his tackles, interceptions, passes defensed, and forced fumbles and tell me a guy had a horrid year...
True you can't do that, but that doesn't indicate a good year either.
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:58 PM
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While it's understandable that people are upset Kirk has been hurt and has been put on IR, if he was healthy he wouldn't be playing anyways. Hall, Newman and Jones have all played fantastic this year. At best, he'd be the 4th corner receiving very little game time, and there would be people calling him a bust because he wasn't playing. There's a number of people that just hated the pick and they wanna label him with the bust tag because they don't like him. Once healthy and up to speed, put him across from Hall and you have two guys that play press coverage rather well. That would be a big plus for the pass rush.
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He might break his neck his rookie year?

I doubt it.
lol When I read Pollack I literally started lol'ing. Were predicting Dre to almost die after one bad year of injuries.lol wow im done in this thread. Best answer I saw was its only one year. If it happens next year or further then we screwed up
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Old 12-25-2012, 10:36 PM
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If you think about it he wasn't going to play in playoffs anyway he probably would have played week 17 and thats it
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Old 12-25-2012, 10:47 PM
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I guess it will be like having two first rounders next year.
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Old 12-25-2012, 11:09 PM
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I just knew someone in here was going to write a stupid response, like cut him or stupid pick.
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Based on his scouting reports he has the skill set that would translate to him being a top of the line safety so if the CB thing doesn't work I'd love to see him at safety.
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:24 AM
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His biggest red flag when drafting him was him being injury proned. Lets hope this doesn't continue.
J-Joe had a very rough couple of years early with injuries I believe. He got though it finally...
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:28 AM
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Cut him! Horrible pick.
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:34 AM
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Its a missed opportunity for him to be on the field, not a missed draft pick. I think a healthy Leon and Dre would help destroy all that work NE has done vs the blueprint the Giants used. Looking forward to next year when Dre is back at safety, corner or wherever helping this defense take yet another step forward.
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:35 AM
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I'm not saying he's a bust, but so far it seems like a very good thing that he was a "free" pick.
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Old 12-26-2012, 02:53 AM
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Like I said.

Expecting anything from this player this year or, most likely, ever is foolish.
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Old 12-26-2012, 03:09 AM
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Waste. Very upset we drafted him.
You people are ridiculous. Get a grip.
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Luckily we didn't need really need him no. Our secondary still has plenty of room for improvement. But I'm scared to death going into next season with Dre penciled as at least the nickel guy when we have no clue what we have in him.
Based on the few games he's played for us, he didnt make any bad plays on ST's and the few snaps he had at corner. So id say that the jury is still out. Not a wasted pick by your standards.
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Old 12-27-2012, 08:56 AM
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Oh well, this was expected. The good news is.....we didn't need him after a couple guys stepped up. So technically, we just got an extra 1st round CB for next year to add to our other 1st round and 2 2nd rounds

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Old 12-27-2012, 09:32 AM
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Look at andre smith... he is beat mode now... give it some time
Beats by Dre?
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Old 12-27-2012, 09:53 AM
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Just think how good this defense could be if he were healthy all season.

This team has done a great job without much help from their #1 draft pick.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:31 AM
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Just think how good this defense could be if he were healthy all season.

This team has done a great job without much help from their #1 draft pick.
No team is healthy all season. We might be worse if guys like Anderson and Wharton were healthy.


Overall we've been relatively injury free.

Howard is missed though. Sands might be too.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:39 PM
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The reality of the outcome of the 17th pick of the 2012 National Football League draft is one of non-appearance.

Many threads during the 2012 National Football League schedule have listed the snaps of Dre Kirkpatrick which, I am guessing, total fewer than 75.

This is a sad outcome, one that actually allows my Oakland Raider fan who is my best friend the opportunity to laugh as the outcome of the Carson Palmer trade can only deal with potential and no reality.
The Cincinnati Bengals have allowed the Oakland Raiders to acumulate a 12-19 record with no positives for the Cincinnati bengals on the positive side of the ledger.

Very disappointing!
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