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Old 12-27-2012, 10:24 PM
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Micheal Johsnon DE
Andre Smith OT - Franchise Tag
Terrence Newman/ Adam Jones CB - One or the other.
Rey Maualuga LB - 1 year deal, dont see a clear improvement in the draft
Kevin Huber P
Wallace Gilberry DE
Cedric Peerman RB

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Felix Jones RB - Cheap option to replace a guy like Scott and Leonard who we let walk in the off season.

Brent Grimes CB - I wanted him last year and he got tagged, went down early in the year with a major injury in Atlanta and missed the entire year, considering he will be 30 next year and the severity of his injury I think his price will be significantly lowered. Good option over the CB we let walk whether that be Newman or Jones.

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Trade back from around 24-26 with KC who want either Tyler Wilson at QB or Keenan Allen at WR after the loss of Bowe to pick up a 2nd and 3rd round pick from KC.

2a. (Traded from KC) Ezekiel Ansah DE BYU - Raw guy with alot of potential and we can afford to take a risk with the re-signing of MJ. I still think this guy can be a very good DE for us and will add some more talent to our already solid Dline.



2b. (Traded from OAK) Khaseem Greene WLB Rutgers - I didnt feel there were any clear upgrades over Rey in this draft and decided to keep him along short term for 1-2 years, Burfict will move to SLB and Greene will take over at WLB.



2c. David Amerson S NC State - I think Amerson projects more as a Safety in the NFL than a CB, put him at FS and slide Nelson over to SS. Besides the obvious of having him at S there is also the option of having him play CB in emergencies.



3a.(Traded from KC) Brennan Williams OT UNC - We couldnt reach a deal with Smith in the offseason so we tagged him, with that said we need to take advantage of a guy like WIlliams falling because of injury, give him this year to heal and get healthy and then next year we will have our RT if Smith walks.



3b. Cobi Hamilton WR Arkansas - A guy with good size and makes some big plays, was still a productive player on a bad team this year. I like AJ and Sanu but im not sold on Jones just yet, this may change but as of now I believe we need to bring in a guy like Hamilton.



4. Kenjon Barner RB Oregon - Speed guy but still has decent size, We have 5 RBs going into camp with BJGE - Felix Jones - K. Barner - Peerman - Herron, I think the first 3 I listed will make it and Peerman and Herron will battle it out for the last spot and our special teams guy. I see him filling a role similar to what Leonard did here atleast for the first year.



5. Kevin Reddick ILB UNC - I see alot of UNC games in my area and Reddick is a solid player at LB, He had 85 tackles this year and led the ACC with 18.5 TFL.



6. Michael Williams TE Alabama - Big blocking TE to come in and be our 3rd TE, has some receiving ability but is more of a blocker.



6. BPA - Get your backup QB or a player who falls.
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:09 PM
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:12 PM
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Not a fan.

Reddick would be a decent late round pickup
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:27 PM
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Trade out? If anything, we need to trade up. We have enough depth players on this team.
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:31 PM
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Not a fan.

Reddick would be a decent late round pickup
Your in depth responses are the highlight of my day.
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Trade out? If anything, we need to trade up. We have enough depth players on this team.
Give me a guy that would be worth trading up for, Werner and a few other Dlinemen maybe worth it but I think they go too early. For me 20 through the early second offer basically the same talent this year and I honestly feel trading back is our best option.
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Your in depth responses are the highlight of my day.

Just not a fan of the players. Brent Grimes would be a good pickup.
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I wouldn't mind trading our 4th, 5th, & 6th rounders for a high pick next year just because i think the draft this year isn't that stacked.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:18 PM
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I wouldn't mind trading our 4th, 5th, & 6th rounders for a high pick next year just because i think the draft this year isn't that stacked.
I think there is some good value in those rounds to be honest, the weakest part of the draft to me is the second half of round 1. I just feel that we should try our best to trade out of 1 and pick up more picks considering the talent at late 1 to early 2nd is very similar.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:28 PM
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Give me a guy that would be worth trading up for, Werner and a few other Dlinemen maybe worth it but I think they go too early. For me 20 through the early second offer basically the same talent this year and I honestly feel trading back is our best option.
I'd have to see who is entering the draft for certain before I could really answer that.

Werner is not worth trading up for. It depends on how much it would take to move up and who is available, but I wouldn't be afraid to move up for a guy like Jarvis Jones (although he would be long gone before we could make the move).

I don't see the need to move back considering we will have 3 picks in the top 50. Volume isn't this team's issue, it's quality.
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I'd have to see who is entering the draft for certain before I could really answer that.

Werner is not worth trading up for. It depends on how much it would take to move up and who is available, but I wouldn't be afraid to move up for a guy like Jarvis Jones (although he would be long gone before we could make the move).

I don't see the need to move back considering we will have 3 picks in the top 50. Volume isn't this team's issue, it's quality.
So the best pass rushing DE in the draft isn't worth trading for but a guy who's career could only last a few years is?

Sorry but since learning about Jarvis' condition I sure as hell wouldn't make a trade up for him.
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So the best pass rushing DE in the draft isn't worth trading for but a guy who's career could only last a few years is?

Sorry but since learning about Jarvis' condition I sure as hell wouldn't make a trade up for him.
Kevin Hardy had the same condition and he had a long and successful career as the #2 overall pick.

I wouldn't consider Werner the best pass rusher in the draft. Even if I did, there is no way I would move up to take a guy who plays a position where we already have 2 young guys that have shown a ton of promise AND have proven that they can be successful on the NFL level.
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Rey Maualuga LB - 1 year deal, dont see a clear improvement in the draft
Draft

Trade back from around 24-26 with KC who want either Tyler Wilson at QB or Keenan Allen at WR after the loss of Bowe to pick up a 2nd and 3rd round pick from KC.

2a. (Traded from KC) Ezekiel Ansah DE BYU - Raw guy with alot of potential and we can afford to take a risk with the re-signing of MJ. I still think this guy can be a very good DE for us and will add some more talent to our already solid Dline.

2b. (Traded from OAK) Khaseem Greene WLB Rutgers - I didnt feel there were any clear upgrades over Rey in this draft and decided to keep him along short term for 1-2 years, Burfict will move to SLB and Greene will take over at WLB.

2c. David Amerson S NC State - I think Amerson projects more as a Safety in the NFL than a CB, put him at FS and slide Nelson over to SS. Besides the obvious of having him at S there is also the option of having him play CB in emergencies.

4. Kenjon Barner RB Oregon - Speed guy but still has decent size, We have 5 RBs going into camp with BJGE - Felix Jones - K. Barner - Peerman - Herron, I think the first 3 I listed will make it and Peerman and Herron will battle it out for the last spot and our special teams guy. I see him filling a role similar to what Leonard did here atleast for the first year.
So you don't think Alec Ogletree would be an improvement over the arguably the worst 4-3 MLB in the league?

Not sold on Ansah

Love Greene and Barner

There are real Safties out there that would do better than Amerson
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So you don't think Alec Ogletree would be an improvement over the arguably the worst 4-3 MLB in the league?

Not sold on Ansah

Love Greene and Barner

There are real Safties out there that would do better than Amerson
I know a lot of people don't think Ogletree is a MLB in the NFL.
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I know a lot of people don't think Ogletree is a MLB in the NFL.
I know a lot of people don't think Maualuga is a MLB in the NFL
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I know a lot of people don't think Maualuga is a MLB in the NFL
Maualuga needs to be a backup IMO. Hell I'd take Jasper Brinkley over him.
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I know a lot of people don't think Maualuga is a MLB in the NFL
I think your overreacting, Rey had a bad start to the year but he honestly hasn't been that bad in the second half, as for Ogletree he might end up playing OLB in the NFL. If you have to get rid of Rey this year then move Burfict to MLB and find a SLB because this just feels like a weak draft for MLB imo.
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I think your overreacting, Rey had a bad start to the year but he honestly hasn't been that bad in the second half, as for Ogletree he might end up playing OLB in the NFL. If you have to get rid of Rey this year then move Burfict to MLB and find a SLB because this just feels like a weak draft for MLB imo.
He has been rated our 3rd worst defender or lower in 5 of the last 6 weeks.

I honestly have no idea where this "Rey is playing better" mentality is coming from.

He had a little 3 game run mid-season where he wasn't terrible; but that is it.
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He has been rated our 3rd worst defender or lower in 5 of the last 6 weeks.

I honestly have no idea where this "Rey is playing better" mentality is coming from.

He had a little 3 game run mid-season where he wasn't terrible; but that is it.
True or False?

Maualuga is playing better now than he was at the beginning of the year.
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True or False?

Maualuga is playing better now than he was at the beginning of the year.
False.

Rey had double digit tackles in 3 of his first 5 games with 1 PD

He hasn't reached double digits in his last 6 (including only 2 and 5 in his last 2) with only 2 PDs



Even if he is playing better (as some see with hopeful eyes); it's sorta like saying syphilis is better than gonorrhea. Peronally, I don't want either.

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False.

Rey had double digit tackles in 3 of his first 5 games with 1 PD

He hasn't reached double digits in his last 6 (including only 2 and 5 in his last 2) with only 2 PDs



Even if he is playing better (as some see with hopeful eyes); it's sorta like saying syphilis is better than gonorrhea. Peronally, I don't want either.
Wow you must really hate everyone else since tackles matter so much to you.
Considering Rey leads the team in them.
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False.

Rey had double digit tackles in 3 of his first 5 games with 1 PD

He hasn't reached double digits in his last 6 (including only 2 and 5 in his last 2) with only 2 PDs



Even if he is playing better (as some see with hopeful eyes); it's sorta like saying syphilis is better than gonorrhea. Peronally, I don't want either.

LOLOL I agree
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Wow you must really hate everyone else since tackles matter so much to you.
Considering Rey leads the team in them.

Just because he leads our team in tackles still doesn't justify he is anything more than average at best.
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Just because he leads our team in tackles still doesn't justify he is anything more than average at best.
And why do you want to bring a slower crappier version of him in like Brinkley?
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Wow you must really hate everyone else since tackles matter so much to you.
Considering Rey leads the team in them.
He is the middle linebacker in a 4-3 D. They are important to a MLB, not to me.

For instance a past his prime Dhani Jones had 113, 116, and 125 tackles his last 3 years here.

Surely, you know enough about football to understand this.
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