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The game is absolutely meaningless. Wouldn't rest do them good going into the playoffs? This is essentially an exhibition game. I can see someone key getting hurt. It's bound to happen when you're playing a game that involves contact. This isn't baseball.
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The game is absolutely meaningless. Wouldn't rest do them good going into the playoffs? This is essentially an exhibition game. I can see someone key getting hurt. It's bound to happen when you're playing a game that involves contact. This isn't baseball.
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The game is absolutely meaningless. Wouldn't rest do them good going into the playoffs? This is essentially an exhibition game. I can see someone key getting hurt. It's bound to happen when you're playing a game that involves contact. This isn't baseball.
Because it worked great for the Bengals to rest everyone in '05 and '09.
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Yes, they will both have a role. MLJ will be the WR2. And Sanu will be the 5th or 6th receiving option.
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:34 PM
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BIG MO, or so they tell me.
Oh boy, if they can't get motivated for a playoff then there's bigger issues. That rah rah bs goes out the window, as soon as someone gets hurt.
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Because it worked great for the Bengals to rest everyone in '05 and '09.
Different teams, different time.
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:34 PM
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intern Marv can't win in this situation.

he rests the players and get blown out we all get on the fire intern marv rant.

He starts his players and one gets hurt we get on the fire intern marv rant.

personally, play play the guys.
Andy needs to beat the Rat Turds
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Oh boy, if they can't get motivated for a playoff then there's bigger issues. That rah rah bs goes out the window, as soon as someone gets hurt.
Preachin' to the choir, my friend.
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Because it worked great for the Bengals to rest everyone in '05 and '09.
Yea, that's why they lost those games. People like to connect dots that aren't there. Them not playing didn't cause them to lose.
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intern Marv can't win in this situation.

he rests the players and get blown out we all get on the fire intern marv rant.

He starts his players and one gets hurt we get on the fire intern marv rant.

personally, play play the guys.
Andy needs to beat the Rat Turds
Without hal;f their defense playing, wouldn't it be kind of a hollow victory?
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Different teams, different time.
'09 was different from '05 too. The result was the same. Get your *** beat the final game and then lose in round 1.

Let the players go out and play like it's a regular game, keep what they've had going for the last 7 weeks, beat the Ravens down and finish 10-6.

Players can get injured any time. I put zero merit in resting players in a "meaningless" game to avoid injuries.
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intern Marv can't win in this situation.

he rests the players and get blown out we all get on the fire intern marv rant.

He starts his players and one gets hurt we get on the fire intern marv rant.

personally, play play the guys.
Andy needs to beat the Rat Turds
So what if he does in a glorified exhibition game?
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intern Marv can't win in this situation.

he rests the players and get blown out we all get on the fire intern marv rant.

He starts his players and one gets hurt we get on the fire intern marv rant.

personally, play play the guys.
Andy needs to beat the Rat Turds


Even if it is a "meaningless" game.
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Because it worked great for the Bengals to rest everyone in '05 and '09.

The 2009 team wasnt playing good down the stretch though, losing 2 of the 3 right before that Jets game to end the reg. season. This team just beat Pitt on the road and won 5 of the last 6 games. The 2005 team argument doesnt count because no one knows how that playoff game would have been if Carson and Henry didnt go down after their first play.
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'09 was different from '05 too. The result was the same. Get your *** beat the final game and then lose in round 1.

Let the players go out and play like it's a regular game, keep what they've had going for the last 7 weeks, beat the Ravens down and finish 10-6.

Players can get injured any time. I put zero merit in resting players in a "meaningless" game to avoid injuries.
I guess the Ratbirds are doomed then, right?
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Yea, that's why they lost those games. People like to connect dots that aren't there. Them not playing didn't cause them to lose.
The next time you or I play an NFL game we can consider whose opinion has more merit. Since i never have, i can only go by what i've seen from the Bengals and other teams that 'wind it down' to rest their starters. Way more often than not, it hasn't worked well.

Momentum is a questionable intangible to apply but if you've been playing one way for 7 weeks, how in the hell does it make sense for you to change your approach and then expect to pick it right back up the next week?
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Without hal;f their defense playing, wouldn't it be kind of a hollow victory?
It would be a very hollow victory. But the type of victory doesn't matter to me as much as just getting the victory, keeping the train rolling and finishing 10-6 instead of 9-7, going into the playoffs on a loss.
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The next time you or I play an NFL game we can consider whose opinion has more merit. Since i never have, i can only go by what i've seen from the Bengals and other teams that 'wind it down' to rest their starters. Way more often than not, it hasn't worked well.

Momentum is a questionable intangible to apply but if you've been playing one way for 7 weeks, how in the hell does it make sense for you to change your approach and then expect to pick it right back up the next week?
You don't think being not bruised and beat up, which you get every week you play, would cancel out this ethereal momentum concept?
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The 2009 team wasnt playing good down the stretch though, losing 2 of the 3 right before that Jets game to end the reg. season. This team just beat Pitt on the road and won 5 of the last 6 games. The 2005 team argument doesnt count because no one knows how that playoff game would have been if Carson and Henry didnt go down after their first play.
The only thing that "counts" is if you have the type of veteran team that can throttle it down for the last game and then pick it back up the next week in the playoffs. The Bengals don't have this type of veteran team.
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I kinda feel sorry for Marvin. If someone gets injured, it's his fault for playing them. If he doesn't play the starters at all and they look rusty in the first round, it's his fault for not playing them this week.
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I guess the Ratbirds are doomed then, right?
The Ratbirds have a vet QB with multiple playoff wins along with a vet RB with multiple playoff wins and tons of experience on defense that will be back next week with multiple playoff wins.

Oh, and they have a coach with multiple playoff wins.
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The next time you or I play an NFL game we can consider whose opinion has more merit. Since i never have, i can only go by what i've seen from the Bengals and other teams that 'wind it down' to rest their starters. Way more often than not, it hasn't worked well.

Momentum is a questionable intangible to apply but if you've been playing one way for 7 weeks, how in the hell does it make sense for you to change your approach and then expect to pick it right back up the next week?
I noticed you didn't even comment on your "players can get injured any time". Youre telling me these guys are such mental midgets they can't sit out a week and comeback out there with the same focus, timing, fresher legs, etc? You choose to look at the reason for this teams losing was the layoff, when it could have been many other reasons.
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The game is absolutely meaningless. Wouldn't rest do them good going into the playoffs? This is essentially an exhibition game. I can see someone key getting hurt. It's bound to happen when you're playing a game that involves contact. This isn't baseball.
Meaningless to who? You?

And if its meaningless, why doesn't the NFL cancel the game?

From what I've seen, this offense has a hell of a lot to work on if they want to do anything in the playoffs.
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I kinda feel sorry for Marvin. If someone gets injured, it's his fault for playing them. If he doesn't play the starters at all and they look rusty in the first round, it's his fault for not playing them this week.
It's his fault period, if they look rusty in a playoff game. That's inexcusable.
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The Ratbirds have a vet QB with multiple playoff wins along with a vet RB with multiple playoff wins and tons of experience on defense that will be back next week with multiple playoff wins.

Oh, and they have a coach with multiple playoff wins.
I think you may be underestimating our team's ability to know what's what.
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You don't think being not bruised and beat up, which you get every week you play, would cancel out this ethereal momentum concept?
The only thing i know is what i've seen, factual, indisputable evidence that shows resting players in the last game has not worked in the past. Zero conjecture or questionable momentum there.
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