Sunset's Mock 1.0

[SunsetBengal]

OK, by now most of you realize that I'm not a draftnik, by any stretch. I do think that it is fun to mock, and here is what I would do, if I were calling the picks...


1. Barkevious Mingo - LSU



Just hoping he's there at 21


2A Alec Ogletree - UGA




2B Travis Frederick - Wisconsin




3 Robert Lester - Alabama




4 Ricky Wagner - Wisconsin




5 Aaron Mellette - Elon




6A Zac Stacy - Vanderbuilt




6B Reid Fragel - OSU



Fragel was a TE at OSU, before bulking up and moving to T

[bfine32]

Like it all but the Safety.

[SunsetBengal]

Originally Posted by bfine32

Like it all but the Safety.

What about Lester is it that you don't like? I mean, I haven't exactly watched as much of his play as I have most of the others in the mock, so I'm not as keen on his faults.

[SunsetBengal]

The rest of y'all are a bunch of cheap, cheezy, lazy bastids!

62 views, and only 1 response?

[pulses]

Originally Posted by SunsetBengal

What about Lester is it that you don't like? I mean, I haven't exactly watched as much of his play as I have most of the others in the mock, so I'm not as keen on his faults.

Just better options at SS in the 3rd. Jefferson,Swearinger,Shawn Williams,Rambo.

[RIPChrisHenry]

Dude I like mingo.if he falls then hell ya. Alec is a freak athlete so I cant say id be mad. I think running back needs to be top priority. Too many runs this year couldve been housed with an elite back...id rather not wait as long as u did. I say if we have a chance to get lacy in rd 1 or 2 u get him...our offense as a whole including dalton becomes alot better

[RIPChrisHenry]

Originally Posted by pulses

Just better options at SS in the 3rd. Jefferson,Swearinger,Shawn Williams,Rambo.

Agreed.

[SunsetBengal]

Originally Posted by pulses

Just better options at SS in the 3rd. Jefferson,Swearinger,Shawn Williams,Rambo.

Yeah, I like Swearinger, a lot, but I think he'll be gone by the middle of the 3rd.

Rambo, would be a good option.

Not quite as familiar with Jefferson and Williams.

[SunsetBengal]

Originally Posted by RIPChrisHenry

Dude I like mingo.if he falls then hell ya. Alec is a freak athlete so I cant say id be mad. I think running back needs to be top priority. Too many runs this year couldve been housed with an elite back...id rather not wait as long as u did. I say if we have a chance to get lacy in rd 1 or 2 u get him...our offense as a whole including dalton becomes alot better

I see Stacy as someone who could bring that explosive dimension to the backfield. At 5'9" and 210, he is a fast bowling ball to bring down. I see him like a Ray Rice type on the screen pass.

[RIPChrisHenry]

Originally Posted by SunsetBengal

I see Stacy as someone who could bring that explosive dimension to the backfield. At 5'9" and 210, he is a fast bowling ball to bring down. I see him like a Ray Rice type on the screen pass.

Can u see him as a ray rice at running back,not just screens??..I want a back to take over bjge not compliment him

[RIPChrisHenry]

Alright I like lacy still early, but if we are going late rd running back I want stacy or dyer.

[SunsetBengal]

Originally Posted by RIPChrisHenry

Can u see him as a ray rice at running back,not just screens??..I want a back to take over bjge not compliment him

Well, I considered using him as a RB, as a given. The guy is flat-out good. Good top speed, great burst, awesome cuts due to that low center of gravity, built like a brick, bounces off of tackles. What's not to like?

[RIPChrisHenry]

Originally Posted by SunsetBengal

Well, I considered using him as a RB, as a given. The guy is flat-out good. Good top speed, great burst, awesome cuts due to that low center of gravity, built like a brick, bounces off of tackles. What's not to like?

No dude I obvi knew u wanted him at RB but alot of people want a bjge complimentry back(a small tiny type)...id like to have an every down back...I knew who stacy was but hadnt seen much. Now that I have. I dig him...alot. And if u know anything about football, u know that someone of stacys size is huge!!! He has tree trunks for legs!! Good feet and initail burst. . Theres a running back in every round id like us too grab. Stacy falls in that category now. Y is he projected so late? Is there a catch ha

[BritishBengal]

That would be a pretty boss draft in my mind.

[bfine32]

Originally Posted by SunsetBengal

What about Lester is it that you don't like? I mean, I haven't exactly watched as much of his play as I have most of the others in the mock, so I'm not as keen on his faults.

Was terrible in run support this year. He only had 42 tackles in the regular season and many question his the angles he takes and the ability to tackle once he got there. He looked real good when Mark Barron was beside him; yet when he was called on the be the man he kinda disappeared. Here's a couple other SS that could be had near or later than Lester will be available with their tackle totals:

Shamarko Thomas- 75
Shaun Williams- 97
Duke Williams- 97


WTS kid does come up with some INTs and I wouldn't hate the pick.

[BBlesmiley]

Mingo is scary good but will he weigh enough to hold the edge in a 43. I would put Dion Jordan in the same catagory. I would think that both have the frame to add weight but I could be wrong. I think MJ was around 260 when he was drafted.

[pulses]

Originally Posted by SunsetBengal

Yeah, I like Swearinger, a lot, but I think he'll be gone by the middle of the 3rd.

Rambo, would be a good option.

Not quite as familiar with Jefferson and Williams.

Jefferson is the hybrid type player that Zimmer likes, only knock on him is he's only 5'11. Has experience playing CB too. If he was 6'2 he'd be a 1st rounder. He led his team in tackles to I believe(well over 100).

[TGISunday]

Sunset: for argument's sake (I don't necessarily mean the bad connotation this word usually gets) explain your plan for Mingo. I'm curious.

[pulses]

Originally Posted by SunsetBengal

I see Stacy as someone who could bring that explosive dimension to the backfield. At 5'9" and 210, he is a fast bowling ball to bring down. I see him like a Ray Rice type on the screen pass.

I totally agree! Some of them runs he just lowered the shoulder and plowed on through.

[pulses]

Originally Posted by RIPChrisHenry

No dude I obvi knew u wanted him at RB but alot of people want a bjge complimentry back(a small tiny type)...id like to have an every down back...I knew who stacy was but hadnt seen much. Now that I have. I dig him...alot. And if u know anything about football, u know that someone of stacys size is huge!!! He has tree trunks for legs!! Good feet and initail burst. . Theres a running back in every round id like us too grab. Stacy falls in that category now. Y is he projected so late? Is there a catch ha

I think the case with Stacy is that vandy doesn't usually produce that much NFL talent and he's gone overlooked.

[bfine32]

Originally Posted by pulses

If he was 6'2 he'd be a 1st rounder.

Only if he destroyed all film from the Cotton Bowl

[pulses]

Originally Posted by bfine32

Only if he destroyed all film from the Cotton Bowl

one game doesn't kill a career, if that was the case many good players would be out of the league now.

[SunsetBengal]

Originally Posted by RIPChrisHenry

No dude I obvi knew u wanted him at RB but alot of people want a bjge complimentry back(a small tiny type)...id like to have an every down back...I knew who stacy was but hadnt seen much. Now that I have. I dig him...alot. And if u know anything about football, u know that someone of stacys size is huge!!! He has tree trunks for legs!! Good feet and initail burst. . Theres a running back in every round id like us too grab. Stacy falls in that category now. Y is he projected so late? Is there a catch ha

He doesn't get much attention because he plays for the ugly step-sister in the SEC, Vanderbuilt.

Originally Posted by bfine32

Was terrible in run support this year. He only had 42 tackles in the regular season and many question his the angles he takes and the ability to tackle once he got there. He looked real good when Mark Barron was beside him; yet when he was called on the be the man he kinda disappeared. Here's a couple other SS that could be had near or later than Lester will be available with their tackle totals:

Shamarko Thomas- 75
Shaun Williams- 97
Duke Williams- 97


WTS kid does come up with some INTs and I wouldn't hate the pick.

Thanks for the heads up!

Originally Posted by TGISunday

Sunset: for argument's sake (I don't necessarily mean the bad connotation this word usually gets) explain your plan for Mingo. I'm curious.

Linebacker, all the way, we now have a Lawrence Taylor type to send on a aggressive blitz, or drop into coverage and make a pick.

Originally Posted by pulses

I think the case with Stacy is that vandy doesn't usually produce that much NFL talent and he's gone overlooked.

If Zac Stacy played behind Bama's OL, he would have been the heisman winner, by a runaway. (no pun intended)

[Jasonew6]

Not convinced Mingo lasts to 21, or where he plays in our defense. I think his best fit is a 3-4 OLB.

The Bengals are not drafting a C.

The rest is ok, but it would be nice if you include positions in your mock, I'm not familiar with all of these guys.

[Shady]

Originally Posted by bfine32

Like it all but the Safety.

I'm with bfine on this. There are better safeties out there. From what I've seen of him, he's not physical enough to play SS in the NFL, and he's not great in coverage. His INT totals are deceiving.