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Old 01-11-2013, 04:18 PM
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Default Carolina wants to talk to Hue Jackson

I havent seen this reported on here yet so I thought I would post

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...on-for-oc-job/

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The Panthers are already moving on finding a replacement for Rob Chudzinski, who was hired as the new Browns head coach today.

According to Albert Breer of the NFL Network, the Panthers asked permission to interview Bengals assistant coach Hue Jackson for the vacant coordinator job.

The Jets are apparently also interested in talking to Jackson
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Jackson goes through a lot of jobs, and was caught on the wrong side of a regime change in Oakland, but he’s well-respected within the league and has plenty of experience working with quarterbacks and calling plays
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:23 PM
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That would be just our luck if Hue went somewhere else and THEN we lost Gruden to the Cardinals or someone.
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:23 PM
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Well the Panthers will be getting a good OC if they hire him.

Probably better than the one we have.
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:24 PM
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He definitely deserves to be something more significant than "Assistant Special Teams/Assistant Defensive Backs coach"

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Old 01-11-2013, 04:26 PM
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Don't know who wasn't hoping that Gruden would get a HC job somewhere else and Hue would get the OC position for the Bengals.
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:29 PM
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Don't know who wasn't hoping that Gruden would get a HC job somewhere else and Hue would get the OC position for the Bengals.
I wouldn't be upset if we kept Gruden and Hue left, or vice versa. But losing both would be bad imo.
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Do we have to allow it if it is not a head coaching job?
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I wouldn't be upset if we kept Gruden and Hue left, or vice versa. But losing both would be bad imo.
I agree, both capable if they the pieces.
I just like Hue better because I am still biased from being a fan of Housh and Ocho*edit I mean Chad Johnson*.
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: Carolina wants to talk to Hue Jackson

If there was ever a time for Brown to block a move this would be it.
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I agree, both capable if they the pieces.
I just like Hue better because I am still biased from being a fan of Housh and Ocho.
I also like Hue. I think he could be the spark our offense needs. I can live with Gruden though. I think he will try and get things going in 2013 if he stays our OC. Hopefully we can give whoever our OC is some upgrades to work with though... RB, WR, Center...
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Albert Breer is never right about anything.

Remember last year when he was saying Zimmer (or Gruden i forget) was a done deal to Miami?
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Don't know who wasn't hoping that Gruden would get a HC job somewhere else and Hue would get the OC position for the Bengals.
Arizona announced he would have a presser but then he announced he has an interview with the eagles...


So maybe he was offered a job with arizona.... Because i havent seen any update on their search since.

considering Jay still has never missed a postseason It would be interesting if he can turn the cardinals around. I think he can.
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I would block this - Brown can because of the position and that the offer is not for HC. Ask Hue if he can wait a bit and move up to OC when Gruden is gone.
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I would block this - Brown can because of the position and that the offer is not for HC. Ask Hue if he can wait a bit and move up to OC when Gruden is gone.
He could very well block this... How long of a contract did he sign with us does anyone know?
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Default Re: Carolina wants to talk to Hue Jackson

Jets also want to bring Hue in as well

We blocked Coyle from talking to the Eagles about their DC gig a couple of years ago. So if there was a real thought Gruden was gone then Marvin would block this, but you cant really expect him to block the move if Gruden is staying and Hue is basically a luxury coach.
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Default Re: Carolina wants to talk to Hue Jackson

I know this may sound silly if Gruden or Jackson leave, I think Pat Shurmer former Browns coach would be beneficial...
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Can we offer them Gruden instead?
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I know this may sound silly if Gruden or Jackson leave, I think Pat Shurmer former Browns coach would be beneficial...
He could be a Decent OC...

But if we lose both Jay and Hue

Im thinking Ken Weisenhunt...
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Do we have to allow it if it is not a head coaching job?
No, the team can refuse to allow an assistant who is under contract to interview for any position below head coach.

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That would be just our luck if Hue went somewhere else and THEN we lost Gruden to the Cardinals or someone.
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Well the Panthers will be getting a good OC if they hire him.

Probably better than the one we have.
I actually think we should release Gruden and promote Jackson to OC to prevent any of these things happening. I know some will say that's a kneejerk reaction to the Texans loss, but truth is that embarrassing offensive performance did not come out of nowhere. The offense was regressing over the course of the season and is not making the right strides under Gruden IMO. Oakland's offense was better under Jackson than our offense has been under Gruden ... it'd be a bold move, especially since Gruden is under head coaching consideration more than one place, but I'd make the move from Gruden to Jackson now.
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James Urban is someone to look at if we lost both Gru and Hue
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Old 01-11-2013, 06:06 PM
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Great so in a couple years if Dalton doesn't get us a playoff win, and Cam continues to struggle we can trade him to Carolina for 2 first round pics maybe 3 he's much better than Carson.... Hue is sure to be HC by then.
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I think what got exposed later in the season in terms of scheme was the total lack in our scheme of certain types of plays. Among those plays:

- Traps
- Draws
- Screens
- Moving pockets
- Designed rollouts
- passing with 2 TE

Defenses realized we had nothing in the playbook to defuse pass rushes, and without Sanu no reliable outlet receiver. So they teed off on us.
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The best thing the Bengals could do would be to can Jay Gruden and hire Hue in his place. Gruden got his job because of his name, and hasn't done much to distinguish himself as a quality, upper-echelon OC in the NFL. Jackson has had more success than Gruden in his stints as OC, and has obvious ties to Cincy. An interesting 3rd candidate, should both leave, is Mark Trestman. His pedigree with QB's is very good, and he has been successful (albeit in the CFL). The bottom line is that Cincy needs an aggressive OC who can elevate the offense out of the mess it has been under the latter years of BRat and now Gruden, who hasn't been better than 20th in offense, despite having two years of cupcake schedules by NFL standards.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:47 PM
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He could very well block this... How long of a contract did he sign with us does anyone know?
I imagine Hue came to Cincy knowing he wanted another crack at the head coach position. He probably told Mike he would stay until a HC position was offered him.
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Actually in 2011 we had one of the tougher schedules in recent league history in terms of defenses played. The AVERAGE defensive ranking was 10th.

In 2012 it was a bit easier, as the average ranking was 16th (fueled a lot by the slide of the Baltimore defense).

For the offense to do as well as it has given the issues with some of the position groups and super vanilla scheme is a tribute to players like Andy and AJ. It's time to fix the issues at WR and also flesh the scheme out and play a full throated pro offense.
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