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Old 01-12-2013, 04:29 PM
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I believe many of you are complete morons and were the same who were praising Jay last year. I wouldn't be surprised if some of you brainiacs wouldn't start for Bratkowski to come back. Get real.......the offense had some struggles and many of it was because of:

1) the offensive line is over rated and has a sub par position coach who has been in that position for 15+ years. BTW the line has ****** for most of this guy's tenure as line coach.

2) no second reciever

3) no speed back

4)a tight end who has squirrel hands as a reciever
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If Jay does leave, Hue Jackson will become the OC.

Something I think we'd all be okay with


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Old 01-12-2013, 04:41 PM
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If Jay does leave, Hue Jackson will become the OC.

Something I think we'd all be okay with


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Yea, I'd be cool with Hue too. I personally don't want Gruden to leave. But it wouldn't be as big of a loss as Zimmer.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:56 PM
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I still can't completely understand the mindset of OCs being at a premium while DCs are at an historically low spot. Mike Zimmer and Lovie Smith don't have jobs while a college coach with a .500 record gets a job and our subpar play calling OC is getting more interviews than a coach who took his team to the Superbowl and one of the best DCs in the league.

Nonsense. Defense still wins championships.
Everyone is looking for that offensive minded HC who can develop a young QB. Because almost all teams looking for a HC right now are also looking for a franchise QB. Regardless of Jay having the 20th and 22nd offense, and 0-2 in the playoffs, people see that he took a second round pick, and in 2 seasons and only 1 offseason, reached the playoffs twice. Also his last name is Gruden.

Is it right? That's not the question. But Philly/Arizona/SD/Jax are all looking towards getting a young QB and want someone who can develop him. Why do you think Andy Reed went instantly to KC? (Another place that wants a QB developed)


Here's to hoping the Bengals can snatch up Whisenhunt for OC. That guy actually knows how to coach a QB who throws quickly.
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The mindset is that this is an offense driven league. DC's are needed but an offense sells tickets, merchandise, and gets people excited. Most people buy jerseys of the QB, RB, or WR. Not many folks buy jerseys of defensive players. Thus, an owner of a team is more likely to invest more money into offensive pieces, including coaches.

The reality is that most people would rather watch a team put up 30 pts than allow 3. Its more interesting.
I don't think it is so much that people LIKE the offense more than the defense more than DEFENSE is one of those things you sort of take as a whole. Defense and offensive line are two things people tend to treat as a unified body save for a few stand-outs amongst the die hards.
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:15 PM
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I believe many of you are complete morons and were the same who were praising Jay last year. I wouldn't be surprised if some of you brainiacs wouldn't start for Bratkowski to come back. Get real.......the offense had some struggles and many of it was because of:

1) the offensive line is over rated and has a sub par position coach who has been in that position for 15+ years. BTW the line has ****** for most of this guy's tenure as line coach.

2) no second reciever

3) no speed back

4)a tight end who has squirrel hands as a reciever
totally disagree.. offensive line has been the most consistent through the years of all positions...
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:18 PM
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totally disagree.. offensive line has been the most consistent through the years of all positions...
You must be either Paul Alexander, relative of Paul Alexander, Mike Brown or a relative of the Brown family to meke a outrageous claim like that!!!

I would agree, the offensive line has been the most consistently horrible of all the positions. The last half of the season they were the worst of all the positions. The line is always horrible. The team has not had a good line since the Super Bowl years.
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:20 PM
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totally disagree.. offensive line has been the most consistent through the years of all positions...
I agree. Jay is pretty decent offensive coordinator top 10 in the league imo. Losing him would hurt.
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:22 PM
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totally disagree.. offensive line has been the most consistent through the years of all positions...
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I agree. Jay is pretty decent offensive coordinator top 10 in the league imo. Losing him would hurt.


I don't know what you guys are on, but maybe cool it on that stuff for a bit...
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:23 PM
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You must be either Paul Alexander, relative of Paul Alexander, Mike Brown or a relative of the Brown family to meke a outrageous claim like that!!!

I would agree, the offensive line has been the most consistently horrible of all the positions. The last half of the season they were the worst of all the positions. The line is always horrible. The team has not had a good line since the Super Bowl years.

Not sure if you know what you're talking about. Bengals had a great OL in '05, even in some of the "dark ages" teams the OL was good. Defense was putrid, but the OL was decent with Willie Anderson and Co. They opened holes for Corey Dillon.
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:34 PM
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You must be either Paul Alexander, relative of Paul Alexander, Mike Brown or a relative of the Brown family to meke a outrageous claim like that!!!

I would agree, the offensive line has been the most consistently horrible of all the positions. The last half of the season they were the worst of all the positions. The line is always horrible. The team has not had a good line since the Super Bowl years.
Not a fan of PA. Am a fan of the truth. The OLine in '05 was pretty damn good.
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:46 PM
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After the Eagles failed to get Brian Kelly, I think they might bite on Jay. He is probably the most well known coach they are currently interviewing. Jay might also get hired in San Diego or Jacksonville. Jacksonville is probably the best chance of him getting hired. Cardinals are still a possibility. I think he will get one of these 4 HC positions, leaving Hue as the offensive coordinator.
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:52 PM
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After the Eagles failed to get Brian Kelly, I think they might bite on Jay. He is probably the most well known coach they are currently interviewing. Jay might also get hired in San Diego or Jacksonville. Jacksonville is probably the best chance of him getting hired. Cardinals are still a possibility. I think he will get one of these 4 HC positions, leaving Hue as the offensive coordinator.
Tbph, I'd be fine with that.
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:56 PM
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I like Jay, but i wouldn't mind seeing what Hue could do with our guys if Gruden decided to leave.
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:22 PM
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We keep hearing about him interviewing with all of these teams, but I've yet to see anything about a second interview...
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One can only pray Jay and his 22nd ranked offensive gameplan go elsewhere.
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One can only pray Jay and his 22nd ranked offensive gameplan go elsewhere.
the jaxonville jagaloons seems like his best shot for sure, but who the hell asked me?
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We keep hearing about him interviewing with all of these teams, but I've yet to see anything about a second interview...
So far, he's been a candidate for a bunch of jobs. My gut says one of these teams will pull the trigger.

I don't know what his career will end up being. I thought he'd end up being pretty dynamic and so far, that hasn't happened. If he does go, at least we're covered.
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After the Eagles failed to get Brian Kelly, I think they might bite on Jay. He is probably the most well known coach they are currently interviewing. Jay might also get hired in San Diego or Jacksonville. Jacksonville is probably the best chance of him getting hired. Cardinals are still a possibility. I think he will get one of these 4 HC positions, leaving Hue as the offensive coordinator.
Good riddance. I'd much father have Hue as a coordinator. His plan against the Texans was laughable.
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Most of the good coordinators are still focused on the playoffs. I don't think Jay gets a HC job.
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I see him leaving but maybe thats just cause I would like to see what Hue can do.

I just see a team taking a gamble on a young energetic coach.

But heres the other side to that coin, Hue will have a great year and be gone to a HC position of his own.
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Good riddance. I'd much father have Hue as a coordinator. His plan against the Texans was laughable.
...and Dallas.
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I see him leaving but maybe thats just cause I would like to see what Hue can do.

I just see a team taking a gamble on a young energetic coach.

But heres the other side to that coin, Hue will have a great year and be gone to a HC position of his own.

I guess you never heard the story about counting chickens before the eggs have hatched?
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id be more worried about zimmer leaving before i would be about gruden leaving.
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