Mays at WIL?

[Dmac18]

Originally Posted by Bryan

He was forced into the starting lineup because of any injury to Howard.

AND HOW DID THAT WORK OUT!

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by Dmac18

AND HOW DID THAT WORK OUT!

It worked out ok, but you act like we planned to start him from the jump.

[Dmac18]

Originally Posted by Bryan

It worked out ok, but you act like we planned to start him from the jump.

What are you talking about i never once stated anything that would suggest that. I just pointed out you can very well start a rookie. What gives?

[OSUfan]

Originally Posted by SunsetBengal

Well, we already had a discussion about Taloy Mays and the possibility of him playing LB, just last week, IIRC.

I believe that the consensus opinion was that he's not physical enough at the point of attack, and that "adding bulk" usually does not work out well for fully developed men in positions where agility and reaction are key.

I realize that the Benagls traded a 7th round pick for Mays, and they have gotten a 7th rounders' worth of production out of him, as well. I know when I said "unconditional release" is came off as being funny, but it's the truth of what should become of him.

I do not agree about not being physical enough at the point of attack. You could use this argument for virtually any LB. If a lineman gets a hold of a LB then they usually get washex out of the play however if he is blocking a LB someone else is free.

[SunsetBengal]

Originally Posted by OSUfan

I do not agree about not being physical enough at the point of attack. You could use this argument for virtually any LB. If a lineman gets a hold of a LB then they usually get washex out of the play however if he is blocking a LB someone else is free.

Except that Taylor Mays isn't even a LB, he's a backup S, and a questionable one at that.

He is not a wrap tackler, he likes to capitalize on the "atomic hit" usually leading with his head. Most of his stops come when he can run straight up to someone that has just caught the ball, and make the hit before they turn and move. In the open field he gets juked, flat out.

He does not possess any of the instictual prerequisites of a LB, the ability to "break down" and follow the ball carrier's hips, to keep his head up and drive his hips through the tackle, the ability to read a play and be where the ball is going before it gets there.

It takes much more than being able to run fast in a straight line, and looking good in your underware to be a star in the NFL, and Taylor Mays doesn't have it. Face it, he's the freakin' Rey Maualuga of the secondary.

[wolfkaosaun]

Mats is good on STs. That's it.

I have more faith in Moch being on the field than putting Mays in there. Mays can make good hits. Cool. But those hits usually end up in 15 yard penalties anyway.

"Oh, he's gotten better throughout the year!". And how do you propose that? Because he wasn't on the field much?

Bring in Bacarri Rambo. He can force in turnovers, young, and can play safety altogether.

Draft Ogletree. Then either get Khaseem Greene, Sean Porter, or Gerald Hodges. That gives depth, talent, and also solidifies this defense even more.

Put Mays in STs. He can actually have an impact there.

[ICKYSHUFFLE]

Originally Posted by SunsetBengal

Except that Taylor Mays isn't even a LB, he's a backup S, and a questionable one at that.

He is not a wrap tackler, he likes to capitalize on the "atomic hit" usually leading with his head. Most of his stops come when he can run straight up to someone that has just caught the ball, and make the hit before they turn and move. In the open field he gets juked, flat out.

He does not possess any of the instictual prerequisites of a LB, the ability to "break down" and follow the ball carrier's hips, to keep his head up and drive his hips through the tackle, the ability to read a play and be where the ball is going before it gets there.

It takes much more than being able to run fast in a straight line, and looking good in your underware to be a star in the NFL, and Taylor Mays doesn't have it. Face it, he's the freakin' Rey Maualuga of the secondary.

Can't put it any better than that.
Let him play out his contract on ST.

[ICKYSHUFFLE]

Originally Posted by wolfkaosaun

Mats is good on STs. That's it.

I have more faith in Moch being on the field than putting Mays in there. Mays can make good hits. Cool. But those hits usually end up in 15 yard penalties anyway.

"Oh, he's gotten better throughout the year!". And how do you propose that? Because he wasn't on the field much?

Bring in Bacarri Rambo. He can force in turnovers, young, and can play safety altogether.

Draft Ogletree. Then either get Khaseem Greene, Sean Porter, or Gerald Hodges. That gives depth, talent, and also solidifies this defense even more.

Put Mays in STs. He can actually have an impact there.

We have John Connor and then RAMBO......That's an action packed team

[Shady]

Originally Posted by SunsetBengal

Unconditional release..

Somehow, it almost never seems to work out for us.





ALMOST never

[wolfkaosaun]

Originally Posted by ICKYSHUFFLE

We have John Connor and then RAMBO......That's an action packed team

This post. Just. This.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by Shady

Somehow, it almost never seems to work out for us.





ALMOST never

Hey!
We didn't draft Mays....
Frostee was alright for us...
and Iloka might still do something

[Bengal Dude]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

Hey!
We didn't draft Mays....
Frostee was alright for us...
and Iloka might still do something

Iloka the USC legend.



Wait....

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by Bengal Dude

Iloka the USC legend.



Wait....

He was taken with the Rivers pick if I recall correctly....so if he succeeds at all, then the Rivers pick wouldnt have been so bad

[Bryan]

Whatever happened to Robert Sands?

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by Bryan

Whatever happened to Robert Sands?

Got hurt. Put on IR
Beat his wife.
Hopefully rotting in jail.

[Bengal Dude]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

He was taken with the Rivers pick if I recall correctly....so if he succeeds at all, then the Rivers pick wouldnt have been so bad

I would love it if he succeeds. We're still looking for our next David Fulcher.

Originally Posted by Bryan

Whatever happened to Robert Sands?

Soon to be released for being a dumb***.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by Bengal Dude

I would love it if he succeeds. We're still looking for our next David Fulcher.

No offense to Mr. Fulcher (love him) but his daughter is a babe.

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

Got hurt. Put on IR
Beat his wife.
Hopefully rotting in jail.

Originally Posted by Bengal Dude

Soon to be released for being a dumb***.

I didn't know he beat his wife. I remember when we drafted him everybody was so excited about his size. Wasn't that a poor safety class in general?

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by Bryan

I didn't know he beat his wife. I remember when we drafted him everybody was so excited about his size. Wasn't that a poor safety class in general?

He is an idiot

Yes. And I was always cautiously optimistic.
He ran the 3-3-5 in college and played a 3rd safety type role and to learn how to play a traditional role.

[Ben zoo 2]

Originally Posted by Dmac18

I know just think about Ogletree, Burfict and Mays. 2.a pick used on Vaccaro I hope.

Or vaccaro in 1 and lb Arthur brown at 2a. Or vice versa.

[Bengal Dude]

Originally Posted by Bryan

I didn't know he beat his wife. I remember when we drafted him everybody was so excited about his size. Wasn't that a poor safety class in general?

It was a terrible class. Jaiquawn Jarrett, the 2nd safety taken in the draft, has already been released.

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

He is an idiot

Yes. And I was always cautiously optimistic.
He ran the 3-3-5 in college and played a 3rd safety type role and to learn how to play a traditional role.

Wow, he is an idiot. We should release him.

Originally Posted by Bengal Dude

It was a terrible class. Jaiquawn Jarrett, the 2nd safety taken in the draft, has already been released.

Who was the guy everyone here wanted but had huge character concerns? I think he went to UCLA

[Bengal Dude]

Originally Posted by Bryan

Wow, he is an idiot. We should release him.


Who was the guy everyone here wanted but had huge character concerns? I think he went to UCLA

Rahim Moore. I'm pretty sure he's the one who looked foolish on Jacoby Jones game tying touchdown.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by Bengal Dude

Rahim Moore. I'm pretty sure he's the one who looked foolish on Jacoby Jones game tying touchdown.

That was him.

[Bengal Dude]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

That was him.

Jesus was that safety class a joke.