Stop with the Eddie Lacy talk.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by BobJones4980

I think people take into account the whole package of Bernard, Rushing, Receiving and Returning when we probably shouldn't considering you probably wont have your first round RB returning punts.



Lets be clear on his oline, he has an 1st round OG, 1-2 round OT before injury (missed last 4 games and Gio still had decent games) and a late round OG (late as in 7th). Alot different than 3 guys in rounds 1-2 and one of the better blocking TE's around.

I don't want a RB in round 1 but 2a -2b I would be fine with either Lacy or Gio.

1. I agree with that.

2. But it shouldn't be ignored either.

[BobJones4980]

Originally Posted by pulses

If Lacy doesn't go to a team who has a dominant O Line like bama had he'll be mediocre or a little better thats it.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by pulses

If Lacy doesn't go to a team who has a dominant O Line like bama had he'll be mediocre or a little better thats it.

And who will be better and why?

[SunsetBengal]

Originally Posted by pulses

Yes I watch football and it's not my fault who drafted TRich

Originally Posted by pulses

If Lacy doesn't go to a team who has a dominant O Line like bama had he'll be mediocre or a little better thats it.

Wow, I'm starting to think that you just have it out for Alabama RB products. Both are damned good RBs. Both good sized, 3 down backs, both will have very nice pro careers.

In an age when RB is one of the highest risk positions to spend a draft pick on, Lacy is as a sure bet as it gets.

[BBlesmiley]

Originally Posted by pulses

Lacy will not be the best back in this draft.

Aside from past injuries I still think there may be three in this draft who could suprise now or later in my opinon.

Knile Davis
Christine Micheal
Marcus Lattimore

They all have solid three down ability and I truly believe one out of the bunch will become an elite talent.

[Dmac18]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

And who will be better and why?

Bernard

was an electric play-maker for North Carolina this year. He dominated conference play including a massive day (23-267) against Virginia Tech. Bernard found the end zone in every game he played in 2012.

Bernard ran for 1,228 yards and 10 touchdowns this season, while averaging 6.7 yards per carry. He also hauled in 47 passes for 490 yards and five touchdowns. Bernard averaged 16 yards per punt return as well, and even scored on two of them. One was the game-winning touchdown late in the fourth quarter against N.C. State.

Playmaker is why. He makes it happen not rely on the good play of others. He has hands like a good receiver. That opens the playbook way more and we can cause havoc against deffenses.

[pulses]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

And who will be better and why?

Lacy can not make something out of nothing he has decent north/south speed and a spin move and that's it.

He only had 2 real good games this year, missouri and auburn were horrible me or you could have ran for that many yards against them.


Besides that he had a real good game against Ga and ND and the rest of the season was just average, nothing that really stuck out.

[pulses]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

And who will be better and why?

I really think Zac Stacy has all the makings of being a STUD in the NFL. He's the prototypical size for alot of backs in the league nowadays. he can run,pass block,catch. Dude has all the skills to be a stud and the speed to create something if something isn't there, and very good shiftiness and elusiveness.

[Dmac18]

Originally Posted by pulses

I really think Zac Stacy has all the makings of being a STUD in the NFL. He's the prototypical size for alot of backs in the league nowadays. he can run,pass block,catch. Dude has all the skills to be a stud and the speed to create something if something isn't there, and very good shiftiness and elusiveness.

I would take Stacy ovet Lacy. He has the size to take the beating and is all around better in IMO.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by pulses

I really think Zac Stacy has all the makings of being a STUD in the NFL. He's the prototypical size for alot of backs in the league nowadays. he can run,pass block,catch. Dude has all the skills to be a stud and the speed to create something if something isn't there, and very good shiftiness and elusiveness.

So a guy who had 3 MORE carries, 200 less yards, 7 fewer touchdowns and averaged a full yard less than Eddie Lacy has some sort of magical spell on you to be great but not Lacy?

Prototype size? Just because a few guys in that range have had big years doesn't make it prototypical size.

Eddie Lacy has shown speed, size, catching, blocking, explosiveness and the nicest spin move in the country.

You just don't like him is all it boils down to.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by Dmac18

I would take Stacy ovet Lacy. He has the size to take the beating and is all around better in IMO.

Except he isn't.
He hasn't shown it.

[pulses]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

So a guy who had 3 MORE carries, 200 less yards, 7 fewer touchdowns and averaged a full yard less than Eddie Lacy has some sort of magical spell on you to be great but not Lacy?

Prototype size? Just because a few guys in that range have had big years doesn't make it prototypical size.

Eddie Lacy has shown speed, size, catching, blocking, explosiveness and the nicest spin move in the country.

You just don't like him is all it boils down to.

If Stacy ran behind an OLINE like Lacy's he would have won the heisman let's compare apples to apples and not apples to oranges get real.

[Dmac18]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

Except he isn't.
He hasn't shown it.

Do you just watch highlight reels or just remember the last game you saw. Stacy is better in every way. Lacy goes for that spin move in the NFL he will get blown up. You can tell it's comming.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by pulses

If Stacy ran behind an OLINE like Lacy's he would have won the heisman let's compare apples to apples and not apples to oranges get real.

LMAO.
Overreaction much?
Jesus this is comical.

Apples to apples? Like stats against a similar level of competition? Nope doesn't work out for you so that doesn't count.

You just don't like Lacy period.
You haven't provided one reason other than "because."
You have said a guy who played in the same conference and put up decidedly less in every rushing category, is a stud. Discounting all the positives of Lacy because they go against your apples.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by Dmac18

Do you just watch highlight reels or just remember the last game you saw. Stacy is better in every way.

I watch games. You on the other hand I wonder about.
If Stacy was better, why couldn't he best Lacy in even ONE statistical rushing category?

[ibengals]

If no one else likes Lacy, I guess I'll be the guy to stand up for him. I think he's a damn good running back. Early 2nd round talent only because he doesn't have "breakaway speed' which is overrated anyways.

He's better than Giovani Bernard. There, I said it.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by ibengals

If no one else likes Lacy, I guess I'll be the guy to stand up for him. I think he's a damn good running back. Early 2nd round talent only because he doesn't have "breakaway speed' which is overrated anyways.

He's better than Giovani Bernard. There, I said it.

MOST of us have said we like Lacy. MOST haven't tried to push him off as a bum.
Some do not think we need a back like Lacy, which is a fair belief.

A couple, think he is a bum and ran wild on some very good defenses because he is a bum behind an OL

[Dmac18]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

I watch games. You on the other hand I wonder about.
If Stacy was better, why couldn't he best Lacy in even ONE statistical rushing category?

Because of the threat of a better offense. Are you kidding me you can't see that. It's like haver foster in the back field to set play action. Instead reverse that with a great offense all around and anyone can rush on a prevent deffense.

[BobJones4980]

Originally Posted by ibengals

If no one else likes Lacy, I guess I'll be the guy to stand up for him. I think he's a damn good running back. Early 2nd round talent only because he doesn't have "breakaway speed' which is overrated anyways.

He's better than Giovani Bernard. There, I said it.

So Brave.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by Dmac18

Because of the treat of a better offense. Are you kidding me you can't see that. It's like haver foster in the back field to set play action. Instead reverse that with a great offense all around and anyone can rush on a prevent deffense.

Im just saying if he was so ******* good, he would have at least shown something somehow statistically. Stats are not all telling, but you guys are making him out to be jesus christ re-incarnated.

You both entirely discount Eddie Lacy for no good reason and using horribly false "facts" about his speed and abilities.

[Dmac18]

Originally Posted by ibengals

If no one else likes Lacy, I guess I'll be the guy to stand up for him. I think he's a damn good running back. Early 2nd round talent only because he doesn't have "breakaway speed' which is overrated anyways.

He's better than Giovani Bernard. There, I said it.

Woah now.
The first bold caption is true, the second not so..

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by Dmac18

Woah now.
The first bold caption is true, the second not so..

Based on what?
Gio played behind an equally as good OL, played lower competition, has injury concerns, loses his value in the NFL because he wont be returning punts and kicks, doesn't have true break away speed either....

[RIPChrisHenry]

Originally Posted by Dmac18

No way in hell do i want him. He is a product of Alabama's Oline and great offense. Slow slow and did i say slow. Here come come a tackler wonder what Lacy is gona Hmmmm spin that's it. He may turn into a decent back but not a home run hitter.

lacy breaks tackles runs through, up, and over people, and pass protects very well. if he was just a product of an offensive line then why is he constantly breaking tackles down field, in between the tackles and spinning by poeple??? BJGE is a product of a great offensive line due to the fact that once someone catches him he goes down immediately. Lacy doesnt. Lacy does have big play speed and he will show u all at the combine. His consistant and dominant play against top notch competition throughout the year puts him in my book as hands down the best back coming out, in the last 2 years outside of richardson.

[pulses]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

I watch games. You on the other hand I wonder about.
If Stacy was better, why couldn't he best Lacy in even ONE statistical rushing category?

maybe because he played behind a much weaker o line dumb dumb

[RIPChrisHenry]

Originally Posted by Dmac18

Woah now.
The first bold caption is true, the second not so..

bernard is weaker smaller and slower. has injury concerns and didnt play near the level of competition that lacy did. hush hush now