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Old 01-18-2013, 10:09 PM
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In honor of gun appreciation day, I offer this evidence as to why some people should never, under any circumstances, have guns:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...555,b=facebook


Apparently some folks just don't appreciate the firearms they are allowed to have.


Note: The video is on the left of the webpage. Please don't be too distracted by the article about the Woman accused of smothering her boyfriend to death with her bosoms on the right of the screen.
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Alcohol + Guns = Never a good idea
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'Dude my mom's going to kill me'
... unless you just killed your mom first
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The only person in those clips who I would trust with a gun is the guy whose pants fell down. Despite the fact his pants fell down, he was clearly at a range, kept his weapon focused downrange and carefully set it down while he addressed the pants issue.

I wonder where they found that footage of Matt?
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Ever been to a Turkey Shoot? It's downright scary at some on the west side of Cincinnati. Some do ban alchohol but others don't, so do your research before you go.
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The second scene with the guy looking down the barrel made my stomach flip. Glad the rest was "funnier".
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Screw having a gun. Those people shouldn't be allowed to live.
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The only person in those clips who I would trust with a gun is the guy whose pants fell down. Despite the fact his pants fell down, he was clearly at a range, kept his weapon focused downrange and carefully set it down while he addressed the pants issue.

I wonder where they found that footage of Matt?
Hey now, I've been losing weight and my new belt hadn't come in from Cabela's yet.
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Hey now, I've been losing weight and my new belt hadn't come in from Cabela's yet.
The fact that the guy showed some consideration for firearm safety was what reminded me of you, my friend. I know that you would also know the proper way to handle a situation like that!
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More gun appreciation in North Carolina today:

http://news.yahoo.com/three-hurt-fir...234451916.html

Sounds like we need a "gun safety appreciation day" to go along with the gun appreciation day.
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In honor of gun appreciation day, I offer this evidence as to why some people should never, under any circumstances, have guns:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...555,b=facebook


Apparently some folks just don't appreciate the firearms they are allowed to have.


Note: The video is on the left of the webpage. Please don't be too distracted by the article about the Woman accused of smothering her boyfriend to death with her bosoms on the right of the screen.
Dying by bosoms suffocation second best way to die besides death by snu snu(sex for people that do not watch futurerama !)

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'Dude my mom's going to kill me'
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I rolled when I saw that.
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This is from Jungle Noise...

http://boards.bengals.com/showpost.p...2&postcount=15

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Firearms debates are always a bad idea, especially with uninformed individuals.

Yada, yada, yada...

-- http://www.assaultweapon.info --
Hey, BZ, read that link.

It's funny zero_threat mentions "uninformed individuals" and then provides a link with a bunch of false information and isn't informed enough to know it is false.

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This is from Jungle Noise...

http://boards.bengals.com/showpost.p...2&postcount=15



Hey, BZ, read that link.

It's funny zero_threat mentions "uninformed individuals" and then provides a link with a bunch of false information and isn't informed enough to know it is false.

I looked at the link and could you please tell me where this false information is?
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I looked at the link and could you please tell me where this false information is?
Is an M4A1 a machine gun?
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Is an M4A1 a machine gun?
According to gun laws, yes. According to the military, no.

Much like how an AR-15 is considered an assault rifle according to gun laws, but it is not according to the military.
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Is an M4A1 a machine gun?
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According to gun laws, yes. According to the military, no.

Much like how an AR-15 is considered an assault rifle according to gun laws, but it is not according to the military.
Machine gun-A machine gun is a fully automatic mounted or portable firearm, usually designed to fire bullets in quick succession from an ammunition belt or magazine, typically at a rate of several hundred rounds per minute.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_gun

The M4 has selective fire options including semi-automatic and three-round burst (like the M16A2 and M16A4), while the M4A1 has the capability to fire fully automatic instead of three-round burst (like the M16A1 and M16A3).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_carbine

According to the definition of Machine gun, it IS.

Where is the other false info you speak of because this example is pretty accurate.
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Machine gun-A machine gun is a fully automatic mounted or portable firearm, usually designed to fire bullets in quick succession from an ammunition belt or magazine, typically at a rate of several hundred rounds per minute.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_gun

The M4 has selective fire options including semi-automatic and three-round burst (like the M16A2 and M16A4), while the M4A1 has the capability to fire fully automatic instead of three-round burst (like the M16A1 and M16A3).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_carbine

According to the definition of Machine gun, it IS.

Where is the other false info you speak of because this example is pretty accurate.
You should read the links you post.

From your first link:
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According to U.S. Army doctrine, a machine gun is distinguished from an automatic rifle by how it is used: a machine gun is a crew-served weapon, while an automatic rifle is used by a single person.
An M4A1 is an automatic rifle, not a machine gun, according to the military.
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According to gun laws, yes. According to the military, no.

Much like how an AR-15 is considered an assault rifle according to gun laws, but it is not according to the military.
Let's pretend I'm from Missouri.

Show me where the military states the AR-15 isn't an assualt rifle.
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According to gun laws, yes. According to the military, no.

Much like how an AR-15 is considered an assault rifle according to gun laws, but it is not according to the military.
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You should read the links you post.

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An M4A1 is an automatic rifle, not a machine gun, according to the military.
I wasn't referring to the Military classification of it, I was referring to the actual definition.
The military classifies them different as the way they use them but they are functionally the same and many are handheld.
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Machine gun-A machine gun is a fully automatic mounted or portable firearm, usually designed to fire bullets in quick succession from an ammunition belt or magazine, typically at a rate of several hundred rounds per minute.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_gun

The M4 has selective fire options including semi-automatic and three-round burst (like the M16A2 and M16A4), while the M4A1 has the capability to fire fully automatic instead of three-round burst (like the M16A1 and M16A3).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_carbine

According to the definition of Machine gun, it IS.

Where is the other false info you speak of because this example is pretty accurate.
From the original link...

"This is a M4A1 carbine."

Is the M4A1 a carbine? Yes. What is a carbine? It is a smaller version of a full sized assault rifle. Is an assault rifle the same as a machine gun? No.

So is a carbine the same as a machine gun? No.

Let's check the techincal manual or TM.

http://larcpistolandrifleclub.com/pd...005_319_10.pdf

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This manual provides operation and maintenance instructions for the M16A2,
M16A3, M16A4 Rifles, M4 and M4A1 Carbines. These weapons are lightweight,
gas-operated, air-cooled, magazine-fed. shoulder-fired weapons that can be
fired in either automatic, three-round bursts, or semiautomatic.
The author's entire argument is based upon a M4A1 being a machine gun, not an assault rifle. However, that is false. His argument is based upon a false assumption, thus his argument and conclusions are false.
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I wasn't referring to the Military classification of it, I was referring to the actual definition.
The military classifies them different as the way they use them but they are functionally the same and many are handheld.
So in other words, the US military doesn't know what the hell a machine gun is, but Wikipedia does.

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From the original link...

"This is a M4A1 carbine."

Is the M4A1 a carbine? Yes. What is a carbine? It is a smaller version of a full sized assault rifle. Is an assault rifle the same as a machine gun? No.

So is a carbine the same as a machine gun? No.

Let's check the techincal manual or TM.

http://larcpistolandrifleclub.com/pd...005_319_10.pdf

(page 13 of 230)



The author's entire argument is based upon a M4A1 being a machine gun, not an assault rifle. However, that is false. His argument is based upon a false assumption, thus his argument and conclusions are false.
A CARBINE is a SHORT RIFLE. The key word being RIFLE
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A CARBINE is a SHORT RIFLE. The key word being RIFLE
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