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Old 01-20-2013, 06:27 PM
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hahaha no where near the biggest need on the team, that would be lb considering we have one starter at lb or tackle if smith leaves and safety because crocker stinks. i guess it'd be a big need for anyone who gives up on first year recievers who flashed immense potential
Get back to me on draft day. Just letting you know you're wrong. Howard will be re-signed by then. Safety will be addresses in one form or another by then. And if not we may take one after the first round.

And AJ Green was not a first year WR last year so you obviously don't follow the bengals very closely. You must have been talking about him because he is the only WR we've had in a long time who has ever flashed "immense potential."

And nobody who watched his team last year could think anything on the defensive side of the ball is the biggest weakness. Perhaps you didn't notice our offfense's total inability to score. WR is our biggest need and it is likely that WR will be the best player available when we select.

Unless your LB or safety you want are able to light up the scoreboard, they aren't our biggest need. Unless you think losing games 17-10 instead o 19-10 really matters.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:29 PM
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And you say we only have one starter at LB. Well, we have only one starter at WR too.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:36 PM
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Get back to me on draft day. Just letting you know you're wrong. Howard will be re-signed by then. Safety will be addresses in one form or another by then. And if not we may take one after the first round.

And AJ Green was not a first year WR last year so you obviously don't follow the bengals very closely. You must have been talking about him because he is the only WR we've had in a long time who has ever flashed "immense potential."

And nobody who watched his team last year could think anything on the defensive side of the ball is the biggest weakness. Perhaps you didn't notice our offfense's total inability to score. WR is our biggest need and it is likely that WR will be the best player available when we select.

Unless your LB or safety you want are able to light up the scoreboard, they aren't our biggest need. Unless you think losing games 17-10 instead o 19-10 really matters.
i guess we have 2 starting lb's if you want to resign an old lb who came off a major injury we're still one starter short there, and you must have missed the games sanu played in when the offense was clicking, there is no way they use a first rounder on a reciever, and you're assuming on free agency pick ups, do you know what happens when you assume you make an *** out of u
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:38 PM
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Unless your LB or safety you want are able to light up the scoreboard, they aren't our biggest need. Unless you think losing games 17-10 instead o 19-10 really matters.[/quote]

we went 10-6 we won most of those games 17-10
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:43 PM
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We need to draft offense. The playoffs are showing that.

There are studies that show a good offense generally carries over from year to year.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:47 PM
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i guess we have 2 starting lb's if you want to resign an old lb who came off a major injury we're still one starter short there, and you must have missed the games sanu played in when the offense was clicking, there is no way they use a first rounder on a reciever, and you're assuming on free agency pick ups, do you know what happens when you assume you make an *** out of u
Sanu had something like 16 catches all year for a grand total of about 150 yards. That's a decent two week stretch for a starting WR. Not for an entire season.

I'm not assuming any fee agents. If we don't sign anyone, WR is still a much bigger need. We have guys who can be starting LBs. We don't have any starting WRs.
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Old 01-20-2013, 07:42 PM
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Sanu had something like 16 catches all year for a grand total of about 150 yards. That's a decent two week stretch for a starting WR. Not for an entire season.

I'm not assuming any fee agents. If we don't sign anyone, WR is still a much bigger need. We have guys who can be starting LBs. We don't have any starting WRs.
We'll sign free agents...just not stars. MB does shell out money for WRs sometimes. We may add a Mike Wallace.
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I think Jones and Green are really elite. But A.J doesn't have a Roddy White a 7 year vet on the other side to keep coverages honest.

I'm strongly advocating the Bengals drafting a WR with the Raiders pick.

we still need a burner at RB..hell go get Reggie Bush or Chris Ivory in FA
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:20 PM
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I think Jones and Green are really elite. But A.J doesn't have a Roddy White a 7 year vet on the other side to keep coverages honest.

I'm strongly advocating the Bengals drafting a WR with the Raiders pick.

we still need a burner at RB..hell go get Reggie Bush or Chris Ivory in FA
I think White helps and hurts Jones. It cuts down his total catches but helps him get more yards per catch.

Everyone wants to trade down...but Cleveland destroyed their franchise by not taking him.
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Yes we will. It's the biggest need on our entire team.

And it would be a mistake not to.

Some people just don't get it though.

Actually some of us do get it,,,and what we get is the fact that i dont care what WR you draft if they dont fix the pass pro problem it wont matter a damn bit.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:25 PM
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Actually some of us do get it,,,and what we get is the fact that i dont care what WR you draft if they dont fix the pass pro problem it wont matter a damn bit.
The pass protection and run blocking is the toughest to fix because its not like 1 guy is just horrible. Sorry...we had these issues all year even before Cook returned.
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Actually some of us do get it,,,and what we get is the fact that i dont care what WR you draft if they dont fix the pass pro problem it wont matter a damn bit.
You act as if we have to choose between the two. That makes no sense.

Reminds me of the people who said it would be stupid to draft AJ Green because we didn't have a QB to throw him the ball. As if people were assuming we would go through AJ's entire career here without ever getting a QB.

Also, people are hypocrites on this board if they believe that. The same people who are saying a WR can't make a difference until we fix the O-Line are some of the same people claiming that the injury to Sanu hurt our offense. If the injury to Sanu hurt our offense, then it proves that a WR can make a difference.

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Old 01-20-2013, 08:43 PM
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That just means we need another FREAK (not average player) to play along side of AJ to keep the pressure off.
Totally agree
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: I love AJ Green, but...

IF we decide that we need to add a WR to our arsenal, then I'd like us to go after a WR in free agency. I don't think it would be smart to use a draft pick on a WR. I don't want to have to wait 2-3 years for the draft pick to emerge........lets get a proven WR through free agency. I'd also like to use free agency for a bad *** Safety (Bryd Please).

Use the draft for development safety, RB, DE, CB....................etc.
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says the 6 poster. There's no gameday forum anymore, I guess you're one of those real NFL fans who stops watching the playoffs after our Bengals lose? Haha.

Julio Jones is owning. 100 yards receiving, 1 TD, and the first quarter isn't over yet. He's caught some passes nobody on our team could have.
Is Julio Jones a Bengal? Maybe the around the leavue would be a better forum.
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Draft Corderrelle Patterson and we'll have our own Julio Jones.
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Draft Corderrelle Patterson and we'll have our own Julio Jones.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:07 PM
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Is Julio Jones a Bengal? Maybe the around the leavue would be a better forum.
His post was bengals-related. There is rule banning all mention of any player not currently under contract with the bengals

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Old 01-21-2013, 06:01 AM
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After watching the games this Sunday the bengals have a long way to go offensively I believe Dalton has a a long way to go AJ would be even better with an elite quarterback. The defense and AJ bailed Dalton out a lot of the time he just does not have the arm. Jones has Ryan and the Ravens have Flacko. All the teams in the final four have that fastball that Dalton does not have. So it is hard to compare AJ with other receivers.
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:39 AM
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Look who is across from him idiot. He has a multiple pro bowler in hi prime taking coverage away from him. Of course he's going to put up numbers

That said, AJ has done far better without nearly the same caliber of player across from him!!!

Simpson, binns, Tate were the first three miserable experiments, then mo and jones came in and did okay, but nothing no where near what roddy white can do. C'mon man!!!!!!! AJ is way better than jones.
Honestly we would have been better off re-signing Simpson IMO. He was inconsistant but he kept defenses honest because he could score at anytime, and he gave Dalton another tall target and drew coverage away from AJ.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:42 AM
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Default Re: I love AJ Green, but...

Face it, by looking at these final 4 teams, you can clearly see that the Bengals are not equipped with the talent yet. We've been watching some very strong and balanced teams.

Yes, AJ NEEDS another receiver of which you could possibly label a starter. Look at the Ravens. Look at San Fran. Unless you have a Tom Brady or Petyon Manning, you need, not just one great receiver.

Bengals need to draft a receiver and a running back; not to mention a guard, a safety, and a linebacker. .. close, but no playoff win cigar yet.
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AJ Green has put up better numbers then Julio......AJ Green has done it by himself. He doesnt have a legit #2 WR across the field. If AJ had a legit #2 threat, I couldnt even imagine what he could do.

AJ and Julio were definitely the top 2 WR in their respective draft class. No doubt. I have a strong belief that the Bengals will go out and address the #2 WR position via draft or free agency.

They both make some pretty freakish plays. They will both be great WR in this league for a long time barring injuries. I am glad we got AJ though.
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Let's be honest.

If AJ Green had Roddy White on the other side of the field, with Tony Gonzalez in the middle of the field, Michael Turner running behind an elite offensive line and Matt Ryan throwing him the ball, Green would be doing twice as well as Jones right now.
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I don't know about twice as well, I might say "as well". The dude now has 2 TDs in the first quarter with 120 receiving with some amazing catches.

Our receiving corps definitely needs an upgrade for AJ to free up.

Ryan is way more accurate than Dalton, too.
Right, I don't know about all that, now. Let's not discredit Julio Jones.

At least he has the luxury of catching passes unscathed, and in stride.

Green has either A: to slow down and wait on the pass to come
B: Jump over the defender and make a spectacular catch in the process
C: Catch the ball whilst being draped by a member of the secondary.
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This place kills me. I almost spent the time to just burry this thread but honestly if you can't tell Aj is without a doubt the better WR than there really isn't any hope for you.

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Let's be honest.

If AJ Green had Roddy White on the other side of the field, with Tony Gonzalez in the middle of the field, Michael Turner running behind an elite offensive line and Matt Ryan throwing him the ball, Green would be doing twice as well as Jones right now.
Isn't that the truth? Even just part of it.
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