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Old 01-22-2013, 02:08 PM
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Again, you're showing that you have no clue. We'll use the Texans game since you bring it up.
The defense had 3 key redzone stops resulting in field goals to keep the game within reach for a very lackluster offense.
With just under 3 minutes left in the game Dalton has the chance to hit AJ for the go ahead touchdown.
But, the defense didn't help make that possible, right? The offense dominated all game and looked like they had a chance all the way through, huh?
No. The defense kept that playoff game in the realm of acceptable. If it weren't for the fact that Maulaluga was exposed all game long, the Texans would've put up even less points.


And as to your theory that consistent pressure wasn't applied to opposing quarterbacks:
Here are the sack totals for each week
week1 BAL: 3
week2 CLE: 2
week3 WASH: 4
week4 JAX: 6
week5 MIA: 2
week6 CLE: 2
week7 PIT: 3
week9 DEN:0
week10 NYG: 4
week11 KC: 3
week12 OAK: 4
week13 SD: 4
week14 DAL: 3
week15 PHI: 1
week16 PIT: 4
week17 BAL: 4
wildcard TEX: 0

If you dont see consistent sack totals from applied pressure there then you're blind. 14 out of 17 games resulted in multiple sacks. Go troll on somewhere else.
To need to go back and read my post. I never said they didn't get a bunch of sacks or consistent sack totals. I said they didn't get consistent pressure and QBs had all day to throw for the most part. There's a big difference.
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:04 PM
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The games against:

Green Bay Packers
Minnesota Vikings
Chicago Bears
Pittsburgh Steelers (2)
Baltimore Ravens (2)
San Diego Chargers
Indianapolis Colts

will write story of the defense of the 2013 Cincinnati Bengals.

The running attack of both Chicago and Minnesota will test the Cincinnati bengals.

The passing attacks of Baltimore (2), Pittsburgh (2), San Diego and Indianapolis will also test the Cincinnati Bengals.

Unfoertunately, the defense was the strongest aspect of the 2012 Cincinnati Bengals. Quarterback Dalton was ineffective in the last 5 games of the 2012 national Football League season and was totally inept in the Wild Card game.

I believe the quote is "Defense wins championships".
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:05 PM
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To need to go back and read my post. I never said they didn't get a bunch of sacks or consistent sack totals. I said they didn't get consistent pressure and QBs had all day to throw for the most part. There's a big difference.
I couldn't find any statistics on pressures, but this page says that we had the second highest sack percentage per play in the league, and I find it hard to believe that we didn't get any pressure on any other plays.

I never remember every quarterback having all day to throw.
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:27 PM
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To have the number one defense, we need to improve our offense because the defense can't play well if they're on the field 60 to 70 percent of the game....
Great point. The games where our D disappointed at the end (late collapse against Cleveland, allowing two 4th quarter TDs against the Broncos, allowing 10 points in the final 7 minutes against Dallas) came in games where our offense had really long stretches of doing nothing and either punting or turning the ball over and our D was tired at the end. Offense must definitely pick up their consistency to help the D out.
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To need to go back and read my post. I never said they didn't get a bunch of sacks or consistent sack totals. I said they didn't get consistent pressure and QBs had all day to throw for the most part. There's a big difference.
I read it right the first time. Sacks come from pressure. The defense was 7th in pass defense. When did quarterbacks have all day to throw.

There is a big difference here. I bring some facts, you just make useless statements. Thanks though, you make a really intelligent contribution to these boards.
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To need to go back and read my post. I never said they didn't get a bunch of sacks or consistent sack totals. I said they didn't get consistent pressure and QBs had all day to throw for the most part. There's a big difference.
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I read it right the first time. Sacks come from pressure. The defense was 7th in pass defense. When did quarterbacks have all day to throw.

There is a big difference here. I bring some facts, you just make useless statements. Thanks though, you make a really intelligent contribution to these boards.
Yeah, what FRav said, and it wasn't like our secondary just blanketed receivers, and even the best secondaries get picked apart when the quarterback has all day to throw.
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