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View Poll Results: Who do you select with our 4th pick, #117?
Khaled Holmes, G/C USC 0 0%
Jonathan Cyprien, SS FIU 4 4.94%
Landry Jones, QB Oklahoma 9 11.11%
William Gholston, DE, Michigan State 5 6.17%
Kenjon Barner, RB ORegon 13 16.05%
Lavar Edwards, DE LSU 2 2.47%
Mike Gillislee, RB Florida 1 1.23%
Gerald Hodges, OLB Penn State 14 17.28%
Keith Pough, OLB Howard 0 0%
Aaron Dobson, WR Marshal 3 3.70%
Kiko Alonso, ILB Oregon 1 1.23%
Conner Vernon, WR Duke 1 1.23%
Kevin Reddick, ILB North Carolina 3 3.70%
Chris Harper, WR Kasnsas State 7 8.64%
Adrian Bushell, CB Louisville 2 2.47%
Shawn Williams, SS Georgia 2 2.47%
Brian Winters, OT Kent State 1 1.23%
Brian Winters, OT Kent State 0 0%
D.J. Swearinger, FS South Carolina 3 3.70%
Rick Wagner, OT Wisconsin 8 9.88%
other: say who 2 2.47%
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I'd rather have Cyprien I think he's better and Rambo is over rated.
Explain to me how you think Rambo is "over-rated?"
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Explain to me how you think Rambo is "over-rated?"
The first one was great but they went downhill from there. Same as Rocky.
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The first one was great but they went downhill from there. Same as Rocky.
When Rambo ran up the stairs of that building and punched the Shah of Iran in the nuts then went and won an arm wrestling championship I was fricking stoked man. Totally jacked up!
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When Rambo ran up the stairs of that building and punched the Shah of Iran in the nuts then went and won an arm wrestling championship I was fricking stoked man. Totally jacked up!
They're all worth watching, but it's rare when the sequels stack up to the original unless it's Batman.
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I like the top 4 picks so far and they all fill needs. At this point i would take BPA minus any DT's
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i'll take logan ryan cb out of rutgers
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Its time to make our selection for our 4th round pick, #117. A lot of interesting players here, this should be much closer than previous polls. In our last pick we selected Rambo in a run away vote to go with our Terminator.

Our draft so far
1. Alec Ogletree, LB Georgia
2. Eddie Lacy, RB Alabama
2b. Travis Frederick, C Wisconsin
3. Baccari Rambo, FS Georgia
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Khaled Holmes, G/C USC
Jonathan Cyprien, SS FIU
Landry Jones, QB Oklahoma
William Gholston, DE, Michigan State
Kenjon Barner, RB ORegon
Lavar Edwards, DE LSU
Mike Gillislee, RB Florida
Gerald Hodges, OLB Penn State
Keith Pough, OLB Howard
Aaron Dobson, WR Marshall
Kiko Alonso, ILB Oregon
Conner Vernon, WR Duke
Kevin Reddick, ILB North Carolina
Chris Harper, WR Kasnsas State
Adrian Bushell, CB Louisville
Khaled Holmes, G/C USC
Shawn Williams, SS Georgia
Brian Winters, OT Kent State
D.J. Swearinger, FS South Carolina
Rick Wagner, OT Wisconsin
other: say who

**edit** for those interested Tavaress King will be in the 5th round poll, where Scouts Inc/CBS has him projected.

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Its neck and neck between he and Barner right now.
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3 quality RB's would be nice (BJGE, Lacey & Barmer). So would additional depth at LB (Hodges or Pough). But we absolutely need a quality backup QB. We have been very fortunate with Andy's durability thus far. I vote Landry Jones.
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1. Landry Jones QB Oklahoma

Nothing wrong with taking a QB even if you have a franchise QB. He could he trade bait later and hopefully a strong reserve. He has great size (6'4" and 230 lbs.) like a franchise quarterback and has the all the physical tools a QB needs. I think he'd be a steal at the end of the fourth and is too much value to overlook. I expect him to go somewhere in the second round, and maybe early third if he slips.

2. Kenjon Barner RB Oregon

We got Eddie Lacy, but Barner would compliment Lacy's hard running style very well. Our offense needs a speedy runner with soft hands.

3. Mike Gillislee RB Florida

Not sure who I like out of the two it's a bit of a tie for me as they have similar skill sets except I feel Barner has been more consistent and shown his durability better.
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Ugh! Not really liking this draft.
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3 quality RB's would be nice (BJGE, Lacey & Barmer). So would additional depth at LB (Hodges or Pough). But we absolutely need a quality backup QB. We have been very fortunate with Andy's durability thus far. I vote Landry Jones.
I went Barner, I think if we came out with Barner and Lacy from this draft our backfield could be checked of the list for the next 5 years. Despite his size Barner runs like an everydown guy, reminds me of W.Dunn.

I also wouldn't mind Harper here, I really think once he gets a QB that can throw he will blossom as a #2/3 guy. Also will contribute on ST day one, very good blocker.
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I'm going to go Aaron Dobson, but if we hadn't drafted Rambo in the 3rd I would have went with Cyprien.

Dobson has all the make up of a #2 WR he just hasn't put it all together. He's long, a bit of a long strider I"ll give you that, he has long arms, good size and big hands. All the tools are there, just not the "IT" factor. Unfortunately, he sounds just like Jerome Simpson but of the 3 WR's listed, he is the one with the most "upside"

BTW, after watching the Senior Bowl practices all week, the Duke WR reminds me of a combination of Brian Hartline's savvy and Kelly Washington's overall size.
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William Gholston by default. He underachieves to say the least, but his tools and measurables are good enough to take a chance on with a 4th round pick. He edged out Hodges who looks like a capable LB that could crack the rotation. I'd take the raw Gholston and let Zimmer work with him for a year.
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William Gholston by default. He underachieves to say the least, but his tools and measurables are good enough to take a chance on with a 4th round pick. He edged out Hodges who looks like a capable LB that could crack the rotation. I'd take the raw Gholston and let Zimmer work with him for a year.
He reminds me of Dunlap, just not as athletic. I voted for Barner but I like this kid Gholston. Here is two games on him, one vs WIS with NFL type lineman and one vs BOS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEhiHSmzd8g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieL160yUUlc

It's looking like there is going to be some good talent in the middle of this draft.

Also like C.Harper here but he might be long gone:

Former NFL scout Russ Lande cites sources that have told him Kansas State WR Chris Harper will lock up a high second-round pick if he runs in the 4.4s at the Combine.

The same sources say Harper doesn't show that speed on film but Harper has been clocked at these times before. The Kansas State product had a very good week in Mobile, showing reliable hands and consistently separated form corners despite a very thick frame.
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This is a fairly distributed poll.....almost every single player listed has at least one or two votes. Thats pretty crazy. Shows you how many DAMN GOOD scouts we have on this board.....hahaha!

I would tell Burma to hurry up and get on to the next one but this is neck and neck right now. Might want to let this one ride a couple more days!!!
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All my main position targets have been met (not necessarily with who I would have chosen but whatever) LB, RB, C/G, FS/SS

That means that this is wide open for me.....but got to go with the trenches and I would take Ricky Wagner OT from Wisconsin. never go wrong with depth on the oline, as of right now we are looking at Whitworth, Smith, and Collins potentially. I would love to add Wagner and release Roland.

Extremely close runner's up would be Hodges OLB and Barner (speed RB )
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13 idiots want barner.
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No doubt. He just led the Senior Bowl in receptions and averaged over 4 YPC on the ground.
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This is a fairly distributed poll.....almost every single player listed has at least one or two votes. Thats pretty crazy. Shows you how many DAMN GOOD scouts we have on this board.....hahaha!

I would tell Burma to hurry up and get on to the next one but this is neck and neck right now. Might want to let this one ride a couple more days!!!
Well, since I didn't devise any clever tie breakers for a situation such as this I think I will let it run till monday morning before starting the next poll. Hopefully by then a winner will have emerged. If not perhaps a head to head poll? The 5th round will be rough, several of my personal faves battling head to head.
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