Do the Bengals take a WR at 21 or 37?

[ImpactPlaya]

I know at this point the over riding thought is the Bengals select a LB or DE at one of these spots.
But the recent signing of Aaron Maybin tells me that this addition that the Bengals
look elsewhere in the in the 1st RDs of the draft.
You have to figure in Thomas Howard,Brandon Joiner in the mix and now thats 3 LBers you didn't
have in 2012.
On to DE, I have a feeling the Bengals resign Michael Johnson. He is starting to come into his own.
He had as many sacks as Ware, Long and Peppers and is younger.

Its evident the Bengals need a WR to take the heat off A.J Green. They need another dynamic playmaker.
Kinda like what Atlanta has with White and Jones.
I think part of Green's drops is that he puts so much on himself to make a play,he plays tight.
having another WR out there that can make plays can allow Green to play a bit more loose.
who wouldn't want another Julio Jones on this team.

I'm in favor of the Bengals drafting Da'Rick Rogers of Tennessee Tech,ex Vol.
6'3 205 lbs. Can line up anywhere.
He was constantly double covered in 2012 and still put up close to 900 yds and 10 TDs.
I watched him at UT,he was impossible to press. and after the catch he would drag defenders for extra yards. Just incredible strength.
He really dominated the SEC in 2011. I don't think you can go wrong drafting another WR out of the SEC.
Green,Jones,Wallace, Cobb,Bowe..etc etc.the proof is in the pudding.
hey I wouldn't mind a Cordelle Patterson or DeAndre Hopkins....but right now I'm gonna pimp Rogers.
His character issues are a thing of the past. He had no issues as a Golden Eagle.

[09itsourtime]

Doubt we draft one in the top 3 rounds unless they absolutely fall in love with one and he falls. But its unlikely any WR outside of the first are going to start and be better the jones AND Sanu anyways.

[BengalRugby]

No

[McC]

I would say it's entirely possible. Really will come down to where the value is. Gotta think Andy's vote would be yes, please.

[Carolinabengalfanguy]

We need at least one LB early. I'm fine with Burfict on the inside or outside and I'm willing to risk Howard coming back to the outside. I want to keep Mauluaga on the roster and see if he cant potentially pick it back up by moving outside again. At worst he could back up several linebacker spots.

Worst case scenario we can run Howard, Burfict, and Mauluaga.

I wouldn't mind adding Ogletree who can move outside or maybe Te'o who could replace Rey in the middle.

DE is a luxury pick to me as long as we bring MJ back, which we need to.

I like our options somewhat at WR. Marvin Jones flashed ability late last year and Sanu played really good as a possession receiver. I definitely could see some really good receivers drop to our two picks in the second round.

I like DeAndre Hopkins, Cordarrelle Patterson, Keenan Allen, Terrence Williams, and Justin Hunter in the second.

I really think we go LB and RB with two picks with the third being a wild card between DE, OL, WR, DB and we probably have the luxury of getting value by going best player available at one of those positions.

The biggest issue is that I don't want a RB in round 1 And I really only like Ogletree, Jones, and Te'o at linebacker so I wonder if there will be any players I particularly like at that spot.

[BBlesmiley]

Originally Posted by 09itsourtime

Doubt we draft one in the top 3 rounds unless they absolutely fall in love with one and he falls. But its unlikely any WR outside of the first are going to start and be better the jones AND Sanu anyways.

Gruden was on one of the sports shows saying that a WR & RB needed to be added. Whatever that means. To think that no WR outside the 1st wouldnt be better than Sanu or Jones might be just a bit inaccurate.

[pulses]

Originally Posted by 09itsourtime

Doubt we draft one in the top 3 rounds unless they absolutely fall in love with one and he falls. But its unlikely any WR outside of the first are going to start and be better the jones AND Sanu anyways.

PLENTY of WR's in this draft better than Jones NOW.

[JungleRock85]

This team played well with Sanu in the lineup and his skill set takes pressure off of Dalton because he is a big target that can go over the middle and make all the tough catches needed for the offense to succeed. We also have not seen Jones and Sanu both play alongside AJ Green in this offense yet. I think the talent is there already that we will not draft a WR in the first or early 2nd but if a guy is available in the late 2nd or early 3rd that they really like and is BPA then at that point they may still draft a WR.

[pulses]

Originally Posted by Carolinabengalfanguy

We need at least one LB early. I'm fine with Burfict on the inside or outside and I'm willing to risk Howard coming back to the outside. I want to keep Mauluaga on the roster and see if he cant potentially pick it back up by moving outside again. At worst he could back up several linebacker spots.

Worst case scenario we can run Howard, Burfict, and Mauluaga.

I wouldn't mind adding Ogletree who can move outside or maybe Te'o who could replace Rey in the middle.

DE is a luxury pick to me as long as we bring MJ back, which we need to.

I like our options somewhat at WR. Marvin Jones flashed ability late last year and Sanu played really good as a possession receiver. I definitely could see some really good receivers drop to our two picks in the second round.

I like DeAndre Hopkins, Cordarrelle Patterson, Keenan Allen, Terrence Williams, and Justin Hunter in the second.

I really think we go LB and RB with two picks with the third being a wild card between DE, OL, WR, DB and we probably have the luxury of getting value by going best player available at one of those positions.

The biggest issue is that I don't want a RB in round 1 And I really only like Ogletree, Jones, and Te'o at linebacker so I wonder if there will be any players I particularly like at that spot.

I have a feeling if Okafor is there, that's who we'll take in round 1.

[pulses]

Originally Posted by JungleRock85

This team played well with Sanu in the lineup and his skill set takes pressure off of Dalton because he is a big target that can go over the middle and make all the tough catches needed for the offense to succeed. We also have not seen Jones and Sanu both play alongside AJ Green in this offense yet. I think the talent is there already that we will not draft a WR in the first or early 2nd but if a guy is available in the late 2nd or early 3rd that they really like and is BPA then at that point they may still draft a WR.

When you have a chance to upgrade your wr corp you do it. Their are several WR's in the 2nd/3rd range whose better than jones now. It's going to do bothing but help our team. Jones was not drafted to be handed a spot or to start, he's got to earn it.

[Bengals in Toronto]

we should sign a sure handed vet wide receiver to play the #2

and give Sanu and Jones time to grow and learn the system and work them in gradually no reason to waste a pick on a guy who will get buried or bump Sanu and Jones


I am all for bringing in Chad for one last season so he can retire as a Bengal he has been humbled and he can teach our guys a lot on the field and we have Hue Jackson

[Carolinabengalfanguy]

Originally Posted by BBlesmiley

Gruden was on one of the sports shows saying that a WR & RB needed to be added. Whatever that means. To think that no WR outside the 1st wouldnt be better than Sanu or Jones might be just a bit inaccurate.

I feel strongly there will be several round 1 WR's in the second for the taking.

[Carolinabengalfanguy]

Originally Posted by pulses

I have a feeling if Okafor is there, that's who we'll take in round 1.

I'd rather wait and hope he's there in the 2nd unless all f my favorites are gone.

[McC]

Originally Posted by Bengals in Toronto

we should sign a sure handed vet wide receiver to play the #2

and give Sanu and Jones time to grow and learn the system and work them in gradually no reason to waste a pick on a guy who will get buried or bump Sanu and Jones


I am all for bringing in Chad for one last season so he can retire as a Bengal he has been humbled and he can teach our guys a lot on the field and we have Hue Jackson

With all due respect, the Book of Chad is closed. He is who he is and I don't blame him for that. Has he ever been much of a leader? Never really heard anyone calling him one, but behind closed doors, who knows?

Personally, I'd prefer to let the young guys learn from AJ, the anti-Chad.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by McC

I would say it's entirely possible. Really will come down to where the value is. Gotta think Andy's vote would be yes, please.

This. Our first round pick will almost assuredly come down to value.
If who they view as the top WR is sitting there at 21, I can't see them passing.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by McC

With all due respect, the Book of Chad is closed. He is who he is and I don't blame him for that. Has he ever been much of a leader? Never really heard anyone calling him one, but behind closed doors, who knows?

Personally, I'd prefer to let the young guys learn from AJ, the anti-Chad.

This again.
Chad is done here. He can't come back. Just wouldn't sit right with a lot of vets IMO.

Go get Greg Jennings in FA if you are serious about winning now.

[Bengals in Toronto]

Originally Posted by McC

With all due respect, the Book of Chad is closed. He is who he is and I don't blame him for that. Has he ever been much of a leader? Never really heard anyone calling him one, but behind closed doors, who knows?

Personally, I'd prefer to let the young guys learn from AJ, the anti-Chad.

I agree but the main point is bring in a vet (not just Chad) just any vet who can play #2

[McC]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

This. Our first round pick will almost assuredly come down to value.
If who they view as the top WR is sitting there at 21, I can't see them passing.

It's not like we don't really, really need one.

[McC]

Originally Posted by Bengals in Toronto

I agree but the main point is bring in a vet (not just Chad) just any vet who can play #2

Well, yeah. Completely agree on that. You can still draft one, you just won't be screwed if he takes a year to be ready.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by McC

It's not like we don't really, really need one.

I agree, Id rather grab some veterans for WR. We have a ton of youth there.

[TwoADay]

I'd say possible at 37, but not probable.

It seems to me they're target defense with the first, and maybe with the second as well if a good RB for the value isn't there.

Personally, I'm hoping for a LB and a S with the first two picks, but too much depends right now on FA and how the picks ahead of the bengals go.

They're sitting in a good spot this draft. No huge holes mean that they can go where the value is.

[McC]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

I agree, Id rather grab some veterans for WR. We have a ton of youth there.

Do both. Cover yo azz, for crying out loud, right?

And as to the early rounds of the draft, my criteria is get a good player who will start and not take long to do it, fill a need, and there are plenty of needs to choose from, try to get value.

Maybe all these well defined needs don't get filled, but some of them have to be and each one you fill gets you that much closer to the promised land. While I think it's very doable to fill them all, that doesn't mean it will happen. Plus, the team staff and the fans don't always see eye to eye on where the concerns are.

But for pity sake, finally take S off the board, please. I'm so tired of that issue.

Just don't make us be talking about the same positions again a year from now.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by McC

Do both. Cover yo azz, for crying out loud, right?

And as to the early rounds of the draft, my criteria is get a good player who will start and not take long to do it, fill a need, and there are plenty of needs to choose from, try to get value.

Maybe all these well defined needs don't get filled, but some of them have to be and each one you fill gets you that much closer to the promised land. While I think it's very doable to fill them all, that doesn't mean it will happen. Plus, the team staff and the fans don't always see eye to eye on where the concerns are.

But for pity sake, finally take S off the board, please. I'm so tired of that issue.

Just don't make us be talking about the same positions again a year from now.

I dont think you have to do both. Especially with the core being so young.
You get a vet to hold the fort while Sanu and Jones blossom.

Ideally we sign 2 big free agents. Not impossible with our cap.
Go get Jennings and either William Moore or Jairus Byrd.
You fill 2 holes with guys who are proven NFL talents and free up the draft to finish off the roster and really do some severe damage in the league.

[McC]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

I dont think you have to do both. Especially with the core being so young.
You get a vet to hold the fort while Sanu and Jones blossom.

Ideally we sign 2 big free agents. Not impossible with our cap.
Go get Jennings and either William Moore or Jairus Byrd.
You fill 2 holes with guys who are proven NFL talents and free up the draft to finish off the roster and really do some severe damage in the league.

You're absolutely right. If you do fill holes in FA, you also allow yourself a little freedom in the draft to take someone who shouldn't have been there, even if it's not so much of a need.

I would love to go into the draft with only one or two needs. That's where you can really make some hay.

[arsonist7]

Originally Posted by ImpactPlaya

I know at this point the over riding thought is the Bengals select a LB or DE at one of these spots.
But the recent signing of Aaron Maybin tells me that this addition that the Bengals
look elsewhere in the in the 1st RDs of the draft.
You have to figure in Thomas Howard,Brandon Joiner in the mix and now thats 3 LBers you didn't
have in 2012.
On to DE, I have a feeling the Bengals resign Michael Johnson. He is starting to come into his own.
He had as many sacks as Ware, Long and Peppers and is younger.

Its evident the Bengals need a WR to take the heat off A.J Green. They need another dynamic playmaker.
Kinda like what Atlanta has with White and Jones.
I think part of Green's drops is that he puts so much on himself to make a play,he plays tight.
having another WR out there that can make plays can allow Green to play a bit more loose.
who wouldn't want another Julio Jones on this team.

I'm in favor of the Bengals drafting Da'Rick Rogers of Tennessee Tech,ex Vol.
6'3 205 lbs. Can line up anywhere.
He was constantly double covered in 2012 and still put up close to 900 yds and 10 TDs.
I watched him at UT,he was impossible to press. and after the catch he would drag defenders for extra yards. Just incredible strength.
He really dominated the SEC in 2011. I don't think you can go wrong drafting another WR out of the SEC.
Green,Jones,Wallace, Cobb,Bowe..etc etc.the proof is in the pudding.
hey I wouldn't mind a Cordelle Patterson or DeAndre Hopkins....but right now I'm gonna pimp Rogers.
His character issues are a thing of the past. He had no issues as a Golden Eagle.

first off, aaron maybin has been a total bust, will he come in and turn his career around who knows, the bengals still need to draft a lb or two our core is pathetic, even if they do resign mj at some point in the draft they need a solid de, geathers needs to go and dunlaps contract is up next year plus gilberry is fa this year, marvin lewis already said they are comfortable with their recieving core and they should be, green is a beast, hawkins is a playmaker, gresham is adequete, sanu and jones both started to come into there own, i think people think or are expecting every rookie reciever to play like green, only a small handful are capable of that so early in their careers, why waste a pick on another reciever especially Da'Rick Rodgers he's nothing more than a punk, a diva in the making, if anything they should grab a good vet reciever like bowe, amendola, or hartline, and a good back in the 3rd or 4th round, joseph randle comes to mind he's a monster and there are several other good backs, not one is head and shoulders better than the rest so no need to blow an early pick on a rb either, our needs are lb, safety, oline, rb, and de depth.