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View Poll Results: Who do you choose for our 5th round pick?
A.J. Klein, ILB, Iowa State 0 0%
Ray Graham, RB Pitt 0 0%
David Bass, DE, Missouri Western State 0 0%
Ace Sanders, WR, South Carolina 12 16.44%
B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary 5 6.85%
Michael Williams, TE, Alabama 17 23.29%
Sanders Commings, CB, Georgia 2 2.74%
Rick Wagner, OT, Wisconsin 9 12.33%
Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU 13 17.81%
Reid Fragel, OT, Ohio State 3 4.11%
Brandon McGee, CB, Miami 2 2.74%
Garrett Gilkey, OG, Chadron State 2 2.74%
Duke Williams, SS, Nevada 2 2.74%
Brad Wing, P, LSU 1 1.37%
Other, say who 5 6.85%
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:56 PM
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When Mathieu kills the 3 cone drill, runs a 4.4, and verts 40+ you think he's gonna go undrafted for smoking weed? More than likely he will go mid 2nd to mid 3rd. Laugh all you want but it's true.
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I don't know because hes 5'9"/.175 and failed multiple drug tests/.I only like him for his return abilities.
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When Mathieu kills the 3 cone drill, runs a 4.4, and verts 40+ you think he's gonna go undrafted for smoking weed? More than likely he will go mid 2nd to mid 3rd. Laugh all you want but it's true.
The dude can't cover it doesn't matter what his measurables are. He is a 4th or 5th round talent as a returner who could play dime in a pinch.
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The dude can't cover it doesn't matter what his measurables are. He is a 4th or 5th round talent as a returner who could play dime in a pinch.
Here is an excerpt from an article written by Evan Silva last year for NBC Sports. Seems to be differing opinions out there on his coverage abilities.

"3. The idea that Mathieu can't cover is a myth.

Mathieu got beat on a handful of pass plays in LSU's BCS title game loss to Alabama, and since then a perception has emerged that he can't cover. It's true that Mathieu isn't a shutdown outside corner like Claiborne or Joe Haden. But he is a ball-hawking pass breakup machine, and anything but a liability in coverage. I charted every pass thrown at Mathieu in the five games. Keep in mind LSU faced quality passing attacks for the most part. Arkansas' Tyler Wilson, Geno Smith of West Virginia, and Georgia's Aaron Murray will all be drafted. Wilson could be next April's No. 1 pick.

Over the course of the five games, 21 throws were attempted into Mathieu's coverage. Eight were complete for 144 yards with no touchdowns. Mathieu got his hands on nine of the 21 passes, picking off two with five breakups. At the end of two of the completions, Mathieu stripped the receiver and recovered a fumble. The one long reception that stood out was a 44-yard gain by Tennessee's Da'Rick Rogers. A beastly presence at 6-foot-3, 206, Rogers outmuscled Mathieu's jam off the line on a slot route and got open over the middle. This was a mismatch in Rogers' favor, as he has at least six inches and 30 pounds on Mathieu, who is listed at 5-foot-9, 175.

All told, the quarterbacks went 8-of-21 (38.1 percent) for 144 yards (6.9 YPA), no touchdowns, and two interceptions throwing at Mathieu. He caused two more turnovers on post-catch strips."
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:10 AM
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Here is an excerpt from an article written by Evan Silva last year for NBC Sports. Seems to be differing opinions out there on his coverage abilities.

"3. The idea that Mathieu can't cover is a myth.

Mathieu got beat on a handful of pass plays in LSU's BCS title game loss to Alabama, and since then a perception has emerged that he can't cover. It's true that Mathieu isn't a shutdown outside corner like Claiborne or Joe Haden. But he is a ball-hawking pass breakup machine, and anything but a liability in coverage. I charted every pass thrown at Mathieu in the five games. Keep in mind LSU faced quality passing attacks for the most part. Arkansas' Tyler Wilson, Geno Smith of West Virginia, and Georgia's Aaron Murray will all be drafted. Wilson could be next April's No. 1 pick.

Over the course of the five games, 21 throws were attempted into Mathieu's coverage. Eight were complete for 144 yards with no touchdowns. Mathieu got his hands on nine of the 21 passes, picking off two with five breakups. At the end of two of the completions, Mathieu stripped the receiver and recovered a fumble. The one long reception that stood out was a 44-yard gain by Tennessee's Da'Rick Rogers. A beastly presence at 6-foot-3, 206, Rogers outmuscled Mathieu's jam off the line on a slot route and got open over the middle. This was a mismatch in Rogers' favor, as he has at least six inches and 30 pounds on Mathieu, who is listed at 5-foot-9, 175.

All told, the quarterbacks went 8-of-21 (38.1 percent) for 144 yards (6.9 YPA), no touchdowns, and two interceptions throwing at Mathieu. He caused two more turnovers on post-catch strips."
He is a nickle or dime CB at best I stand by that. He had a very good defense around him who covered many of his flaws. Just because the pass didn't make it his way didn't mean his guy wasn't open it just means the pass rush got there first.
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Here is an excerpt from an article written by Evan Silva last year for NBC Sports. Seems to be differing opinions out there on his coverage abilities.

"3. The idea that Mathieu can't cover is a myth.

Mathieu got beat on a handful of pass plays in LSU's BCS title game loss to Alabama, and since then a perception has emerged that he can't cover. It's true that Mathieu isn't a shutdown outside corner like Claiborne or Joe Haden. But he is a ball-hawking pass breakup machine, and anything but a liability in coverage. I charted every pass thrown at Mathieu in the five games. Keep in mind LSU faced quality passing attacks for the most part. Arkansas' Tyler Wilson, Geno Smith of West Virginia, and Georgia's Aaron Murray will all be drafted. Wilson could be next April's No. 1 pick.

Over the course of the five games, 21 throws were attempted into Mathieu's coverage. Eight were complete for 144 yards with no touchdowns. Mathieu got his hands on nine of the 21 passes, picking off two with five breakups. At the end of two of the completions, Mathieu stripped the receiver and recovered a fumble. The one long reception that stood out was a 44-yard gain by Tennessee's Da'Rick Rogers. A beastly presence at 6-foot-3, 206, Rogers outmuscled Mathieu's jam off the line on a slot route and got open over the middle. This was a mismatch in Rogers' favor, as he has at least six inches and 30 pounds on Mathieu, who is listed at 5-foot-9, 175.

All told, the quarterbacks went 8-of-21 (38.1 percent) for 144 yards (6.9 YPA), no touchdowns, and two interceptions throwing at Mathieu. He caused two more turnovers on post-catch strips."
The question remains do you go for Mathieu at 5'9 175 with all kinds of problems or someone like Sanders Commings who also had a few problems, but is 5"11 223 and covers just as well. Both of those guys will likely go around the same time.
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Here is an excerpt from an article written by Evan Silva last year for NBC Sports. Seems to be differing opinions out there on his coverage abilities.

"3. The idea that Mathieu can't cover is a myth.

Mathieu got beat on a handful of pass plays in LSU's BCS title game loss to Alabama, and since then a perception has emerged that he can't cover. It's true that Mathieu isn't a shutdown outside corner like Claiborne or Joe Haden. But he is a ball-hawking pass breakup machine, and anything but a liability in coverage. I charted every pass thrown at Mathieu in the five games. Keep in mind LSU faced quality passing attacks for the most part. Arkansas' Tyler Wilson, Geno Smith of West Virginia, and Georgia's Aaron Murray will all be drafted. Wilson could be next April's No. 1 pick.

Over the course of the five games, 21 throws were attempted into Mathieu's coverage. Eight were complete for 144 yards with no touchdowns. Mathieu got his hands on nine of the 21 passes, picking off two with five breakups. At the end of two of the completions, Mathieu stripped the receiver and recovered a fumble. The one long reception that stood out was a 44-yard gain by Tennessee's Da'Rick Rogers. A beastly presence at 6-foot-3, 206, Rogers outmuscled Mathieu's jam off the line on a slot route and got open over the middle. This was a mismatch in Rogers' favor, as he has at least six inches and 30 pounds on Mathieu, who is listed at 5-foot-9, 175.

All told, the quarterbacks went 8-of-21 (38.1 percent) for 144 yards (6.9 YPA), no touchdowns, and two interceptions throwing at Mathieu. He caused two more turnovers on post-catch strips."
I stopped reading at Tyler Wilson could be next April's #1 :P lol
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Here is an excerpt from an article written by Evan Silva last year for NBC Sports. Seems to be differing opinions out there on his coverage abilities.

"3. The idea that Mathieu can't cover is a myth.

Mathieu got beat on a handful of pass plays in LSU's BCS title game loss to Alabama, and since then a perception has emerged that he can't cover. It's true that Mathieu isn't a shutdown outside corner like Claiborne or Joe Haden. But he is a ball-hawking pass breakup machine, and anything but a liability in coverage. I charted every pass thrown at Mathieu in the five games. Keep in mind LSU faced quality passing attacks for the most part. Arkansas' Tyler Wilson, Geno Smith of West Virginia, and Georgia's Aaron Murray will all be drafted. Wilson could be next April's No. 1 pick.

Over the course of the five games, 21 throws were attempted into Mathieu's coverage. Eight were complete for 144 yards with no touchdowns. Mathieu got his hands on nine of the 21 passes, picking off two with five breakups. At the end of two of the completions, Mathieu stripped the receiver and recovered a fumble. The one long reception that stood out was a 44-yard gain by Tennessee's Da'Rick Rogers. A beastly presence at 6-foot-3, 206, Rogers outmuscled Mathieu's jam off the line on a slot route and got open over the middle. This was a mismatch in Rogers' favor, as he has at least six inches and 30 pounds on Mathieu, who is listed at 5-foot-9, 175.

All told, the quarterbacks went 8-of-21 (38.1 percent) for 144 yards (6.9 YPA), no touchdowns, and two interceptions throwing at Mathieu. He caused two more turnovers on post-catch strips."
This excerpt makes me want Da'Rick Rogers more then Tyrann Matheiu!!
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This excerpt makes me want Da'Rick Rogers more then Tyrann Matheiu!!
Rodgers has started peeking my interest more and more. The red flags could make this another Randy Moss situation where many may pass on him when talent wise they shouldn't.
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The Bengals will probably draft Brad Wing and try to turn him into a kicker. Can't remember his name that they did this to but I think it was Travis Dorsch. He was the nations #1 rated punter and the Bengals completely ruined him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Dorsch

He did both in college.

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I'm sorry but Ace Sanders should be the pick here, If nothing else but to have a consitent PR/KR guy. He is a solid WR as well, runs very well after catch.

Mathiu has to be off limits and Williams is best known for his Senior Bowl performance. However would be nice to have a TE that could block.

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I voted for Mathieu because hes a beast in the return game and could be the next Hester.
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The question remains do you go for Mathieu at 5'9 175 with all kinds of problems or someone like Sanders Commings who also had a few problems, but is 5"11 223 and covers just as well. Both of those guys will likely go around the same time.
I want Mathieu because of his return abilities and not his cb play.He should be good on zone coverage.
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