Overrated/Underrated

[berserkerone88]

Who are yours?

Underrated

QB: Tyler Wilson
RB: Johnathan Franklin
WR: Chris Harper
TE: Jack Doyle
OT: Eric Fisher
OG: Justin Pugh
C: Travis Frederick

DE: Datone Jones
DT: Montori Hughes
OLB: DeVonte Holloman
ILB: AJ Klein
CB: Leon McFadden
FS: DJ Swearinger
SS: Shawn Williams

Overrated

QB: Mike Glennon
RB: Zac Stacy
WR: Tavon Austin
TE: Zach Ertz
OT: Kyle Long
OG: Larry Warfod
C: Barrett Jones

DE: Dion Jordan (or Margus Hunt)
DT: John Jenkins
OLB: Alec Ogletree
ILB: Manti Te'o
CB: Jon Banks
FS: Phillip Thomas
SS: Matt Elam

[ibengals]

Didn't look at yours yet, but let's go:

QB: Ryan Nassib
HB: Montee Ball (seen him mocked to us at #21)
WR: Keenan Allen
TE: Zach Ertz
OL: Barrett Jones
OL: Travis Frederick
DE: Sam Montgomery
DT: Johnathan Jenkins
S: Matt Elam
S: Phillip Thomas

Under:

QB: None - Sad QB class
HB: Johnathan Franklin
WR: Robert Woods
TE: Michael Williams
OL: Chris Faulk
OL: Larry Warford
DE: Datone Jones
DT: Sheldon Richardson (Should be top-10 imo)
CB: Leon McFadden
S: Shawn Williams
S: John Cyprien

[Jasonew6]

Over rated on this board: Tyrann Mathieu.

[Au165]

Originally Posted by Jasonew6

Over rated on this board: Tyrann Mathieu.

+1 /thread

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by Au165

+1 /thread

the **** are you talking about? this isn't a debate thread. it doesn't need ending.

[ibengals]

By the way, I'm saying over/underrated going off of where I've seen them projected in recent drafts. For example, I like Keenan Allen, but I've seen him picked top-12 recently.

[DWright]

Kawann Short - Underrated


I know hes already been marked as a 1st round prospect, but you never hear anything about him not even during the Senior Bowl when he was unblockable. I know the Bengals do not need a DT, but if Short is there at 21 you take him and see if Devon Still can move out to strong side end.

[ishouldbegm]

underrated
michael dyer
andrew jackson
logan ryan

overrated
alec olgetree
matt elam
eddie lacy

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by DWright

Kawann Short - Underrated


I know hes already been marked as a 1st round prospect, but you never hear anything about him not even during the Senior Bowl when he was unblockable. I know the Bengals do not need a DT, but if Short is there at 21 you take him and see if Devon Still can move out to strong side end.

He also has some big time motivation/effort concerns which knock him down. Talent has never really been questioned.

[ibengals]

I keep seeing Ogletree as overrated, yet everyone has him mocked to us at #21. I think he has the ideal HWS combination, but he's not that great vs. the run. Good in coverage though.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by ibengals

I keep seeing Ogletree as overrated, yet everyone has him mocked to us at #21. I think he has the ideal HWS combination, but he's not that great vs. the run. Good in coverage though.

I think 21 is overrated for him. He could easily go that high or higher as MLB is so weak this year. He plays like a 2nd round pick. Good in coverage but way too timid vs the run and doesn't attack the runner. Still very raw as a LB.
If you draft a MLB in the first, he better be able to play the run.

[wolfkaosaun]

I'll go with a few real quick.

Overrated:
QB - Landry Jones
LB - Manti T'eo
S - Matt Elam
S - Robert Lester

Underrated:
QB - Matt Barkley
WR - Tavarres King
C - Brian Schwenke
S - Duke Williams

[BritishBengal]

Originally Posted by wolfkaosaun

I'll go with a few real quick.

Overrated:
QB - Landry Jones
LB - Manti T'eo
S - Matt Elam
S - Robert Lester

Underrated:
QB - Matt Barkley
WR - Tavarres King
C - Brian Schwenke
S - Duke Williams

I agree with Barkley. He has been over-scrutinised and some of his previous seasons have seemingly been forgotten.

[wolfkaosaun]

Originally Posted by BritishBengal

I agree with Barkley. He has been over-scrutinised and some of his previous seasons have seemingly been forgotten.

Agreed. I think he will be the most successful QB from this draft

[ibengals]

Originally Posted by wolfkaosaun

Underrated:
WR - Tavarres King

There's a guy I forgot about. I agree.

[wolfkaosaun]

Originally Posted by ibengals

There's a guy I forgot about. I agree.

Love his route running and his size. Could be a late round gem

[berserkerone88]

I don't see how King is underrated.
Seemed like he dropped a big pass every week.
When you do that you will fall in the draft...

[wolfkaosaun]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

I don't see how King is underrated.
Seemed like he dropped a big pass every week.
When you do that you will fall in the draft...

His biggest worry is dropped passes. Yes. But if he can get better at that (which I believe he will) then he could definitely produce in the NFL

[bfine32]

QB:
Over-rated- Mike Glennon, Under-rated- Matt Scott

RB:
Over-rated- Gio Benard, Under-rated- Cierre Wood

WR:
OR- Tavon Austin, UR- Chris Harper

Oline:
OR- Lane Johnson, UR-Brian Schwenke

Dline:
OR- Johnathan Hankins, UR- William Gholston

LB:
OR- Jarvis Jones, UR- Kevin Minter

DB:
OR- Kenny Vaccaro, UR- D.J. Swearinger

Amatuer Draft Expert:
UR- bfine32

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by wolfkaosaun

His biggest worry is dropped passes. Yes. But if he can get better at that (which I believe he will) then he could definitely produce in the NFL

Yes he could get better. But as of right now, he isn't.
So he is rated fairly.
I get he had a big week leading up to the SrB and is the current flavor of the week. But he still has a lot of flaws in his game. Namely dropping a lot of passes.

I think his ranking of 4-5 is fair.

[wolfkaosaun]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

Yes he could get better. But as of right now, he isn't.
So he is rated fairly.
I get he had a big week leading up to the SrB and is the current flavor of the week. But he still has a lot of flaws in his game. Namely dropping a lot of passes.

I think his ranking of 4-5 is fair.

Well my ratings go to where I think they could be when they are in the NFL. King has the tools to become a good #2. Just his drops need to be worked on.

I've been on King before the Senior Bowl. But I believe him being in the 4-5 would be a steal.

Such as Leon McFadden (I think he's still rated in the 4th round). McFadden would be a great steal there.

[NATI BENGALS]

One guy who I think is enormously underrated is Tyler Bray QB from Tenn. If he is there in the 3rd we really need to think about it. Three Tenn WRs are slated to go in the first or second. Bray was the one who put them on the map.

Fred if you see this... Why in the world is he projecting so late?

[Truck_1_0_1_]

Originally Posted by NATI BENGALS

One guy who I think is enormously underrated is Tyler Bray QB from Tenn. If he is there in the 3rd we really need to think about it. Three Tenn WRs are slated to go in the first or second. Bray was the one who put them on the map.

Fred if you see this... Why in the world is he projecting so late?

The second of the two guys I've been boosting.

[NATI BENGALS]

Originally Posted by Truck_1_0_1_

The second of the two guys I've been boosting.

When it's all said and done I really think he goes in the first. If he doesn't it is because of some red flag I am not privy to. He has all the tools Flacco had when he came out.

Bray, Barkley, Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson will be the 4 first round QBs if there are 4.

[bfine32]

Originally Posted by NATI BENGALS

One guy who I think is enormously underrated is Tyler Bray QB from Tenn. If he is there in the 3rd we really need to think about it. Three Tenn WRs are slated to go in the first or second. Bray was the one who put them on the map.

Fred if you see this... Why in the world is he projecting so late?

Was gonna list Bray as under-rated, then I saw where CBS gave him a 2nd round grade. As for the knock on Bray, it is said he has CP9 syndrome. Doesn't think there's a throw he can't make and it often gets him into trouble.