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Old 02-04-2013, 08:40 AM
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That is a horrible still shot if you are trying to prove a point.
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LOL...Haters always going to Hate....I love it!!

Please explain why on 3rd and Goal at the 1 yard line, when Joe play fakes, rolls right out of the pocket and gets hit three yards out of bounds and that wasn't flagged for late hit or roughing the QB? That was a 4 point swing. If called properly, then we are first and goal at the 1/2 yard line. Nobody remembers that...well not the haters.
Bad calls/No calls throughout the entire game.

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Hey, I was rooting for Baltimore to win. All I'm saying is you can't ever complain about the Steelers wins after that showing last night. Looking through it with team colored glasses you will always dismiss the controversies. But they are still there for everyone else.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:08 AM
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Spokesperson for the refs association said the flag should have been thrown if the ball was catchable. In their eyes the ball was over thrown, and clearly not catchable. No flag was warranted. It comes down to the fact that even if Smith gets beat, Crabtree had zero chance of a reception.

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If Crabtree runs the route right. Maybe he gets the call?
But he didn't.
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If Crabtree runs the route right. Maybe he gets the call?
But he didn't.
Game over!
Well, he couldn't exactly run the correct route with that defender wrapping him up like that.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:17 AM
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I disagree. I was listening to Mike & Mike and they had Chris Carter on and he gave his analysis of the play.

CC said essentially that the refs were never going to give Crabtree that call because he ran a poor route. He ran into the defender and then pushed off, which he clearly did on the replays. The defender was shading him inside to prevent the slant, yet Crabtree still ran right into him, knowing his was running a fade.

Poor route running and good non-call according to CC and I agree.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:18 AM
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Well, he couldn't exactly run the correct route with that defender wrapping him up like that.
Yea, he could have.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:19 AM
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I disagree. I was listening to Mike & Mike and they had Chris Carter on and he gave his analysis of the play.

CC said essentially that the refs were never going to give Crabtree that call because he ran a poor route. He ran into the defender and then pushed off, which he clearly did on the replays. The defender was shading him inside to prevent the slant, yet Crabtree still ran right into him, knowing his was running a fade.

Poor route running and good non-call according to CC and I agree.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:25 AM
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I disagree. I was listening to Mike & Mike and they had Chris Carter on and he gave his analysis of the play.

CC said essentially that the refs were never going to give Crabtree that call because he ran a poor route. He ran into the defender and then pushed off, which he clearly did on the replays. The defender was shading him inside to prevent the slant, yet Crabtree still ran right into him, knowing his was running a fade.

Poor route running and good non-call according to CC and I agree.
I don't really know much about it, nor do I really care. Just looked like a messed up play to me. It was the only play I really watch of the entire game, though.

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Yea, he could have.
Maybe it's just me, but I think trying to break out of that would not be so easy. I mean, these guys aren't exactly light.
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Nice kickoff return............................................ .................................................. no holding here ^
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Nice kickoff return............................................ .................................................. no holding here ^
Clearly no holding on the safety either.
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Nice kickoff return............................................ .................................................. no holding here ^
I asked Mike Pereira on twitter about that. He actually responded that "by rule" there is no holding if there is a double team.

Seriously.

The Flacco hit was tough because he was about a step out of bounds and flew through the air after he got hit.

And if the receiver running into the DB isn't DPI then the Ravens need to have punted on their last scoring drive when Smith ran directly into the cover man and continued to back in to him...and they called DPI.
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I asked Mike Pereira on twitter about that. He actually responded that "by rule" there is no holding if there is a double team.

Seriously.

The Flacco hit was tough because he was about a step out of bounds and flew through the air after he got hit.

And if the receiver running into the DB isn't DPI then the Ravens need to have punted on their last scoring drive when Smith ran directly into the cover man and continued to back in to him...and they called DPI.
What about on the safety when the ravens had ahold of a guy by the waste from behind for a good 5 seconds? There is no way a punter gets 9 seconds without some holding going on.

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What about on the safety when the ravens had ahold of a guy by the waste from behind for a good 5 seconds? There is no way a punter gets 9 seconds without some holding going on.

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I think in that case even if they call holding it wouldn't be enforced until the end of the play. I don't think they would put time back on the clock so that's probably moot...other than the fact that no flag was thrown at all.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:16 AM
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I was shocked that what's his name (#29) wasn't ejected. That was as blatant as I've ever seen.
I don't think the final SF throw was uncatchable. It landed a few feet out of bounds, and if nothing else it could have been D holding. That being said, Baltimore won the Super Bowl and they deserved it.
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I asked Mike Pereira on twitter about that. He actually responded that "by rule" there is no holding if there is a double team.

Seriously.
I had to look in the rulebook to confirm...

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(h) if the action is part of a double-team block in close-line play.

Exception: Holding will be called if the opponent is pulled to the ground by one or both of the blockers.
http://static.nfl.com/static/content...er_Conduct.pdf pg.2

Alrighty then....
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I had to look in the rulebook to confirm...



http://static.nfl.com/static/content...er_Conduct.pdf pg.2

Alrighty then....
Would that be considered close line play, though?
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Would that be considered close line play, though?
No but the defender was not pulled to the ground apparently.

Edit: He took down (or I can't find) that separate tweet where he said that part.
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No but the defender was not pulled to the ground apparently.
But it says it would not be holding if it is part of a double-team block in close line play. If it's not in close line play, then the double-team wouldn't matter and it would be holding. Just how I'm reading it.
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I think in that case even if they call holding it wouldn't be enforced until the end of the play. I don't think they would put time back on the clock so that's probably moot...other than the fact that no flag was thrown at all.
Well that's a rule that needs changed then because there is nothing to stop a team from doing that and cheating. Like I said, complete bs.

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Would that be considered close line play, though?
If it wasn't, (e) would have made it a non-call as well.

(e) if the action occurs away from the point of attack and not within close-line play;
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:30 AM
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If it wasn't, (e) would have made it a non-call as well.

(e) if the action occurs away from the point of attack and not within close-line play;
Ah. Well that's just stupid to be quite honest, the whole thing about double teaming. You can double team someone on a block without holding.

Things like this are why I've been getting so tired of the NFL lately.
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Remember the “official bet with umkubas”:
Just wanted to let everyone know, as long as the Bengals win tomorrow, we will never have to see umkubus AGAIN...EVER. I have made a bet with him, that if the bengals win, he can never post on this website again. If the Bengals lose, I will disappear forever. I will take the bullet for the possibility of nobody ever having to read the robots posts ever again.

So lets all cheer on the Bengals and watch them beat the texans tomorrow.

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Or how about when the ravens player shoved the ref during one of the brawls and stayed in the game? Or when a ravens player is actually holding on to someone at the waste from behind for a good 5 seconds and never got a call? Or the fact that the ravens defender maintained contact well after 5 yards in the end zone and never so much as looked for the ball? Those are just the ones that stand out that were blatantly obvious. I wasn't even rooting for the 9ers, because I didn't wanna see either team win, but the officiating was very one sided and ridiculous.

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I'm referring to the lack of calls against the ravens. If one team is playing dirty, and the other is not, the totals should not even be close. But have fun making excuses for your ravens. Congrats on your team buying a superbowl victory.

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Really? Because even after the hold he was almost there. I'm talking like 3 feet away. I'm calling bs on this one. It's not just that one play, I've never seen a more blatant hold in my life, and it wasn't called. Ravens didn't deserve the win. Complete bs.

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What about on the safety when the ravens had ahold of a guy by the waste from behind for a good 5 seconds? There is no way a punter gets 9 seconds without some holding going on.

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Well that's a rule that needs changed then because there is nothing to stop a team from doing that and cheating. Like I said, complete bs.

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Ah. Well that's just stupid to be quite honest, the whole thing about double teaming. You can double team someone on a block without holding.
Agreed. One person can't hold, but if there's two, well...have at it.
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LOL...Haters always going to Hate....I love it!!

Please explain why on 3rd and Goal at the 1 yard line, when Joe play fakes, rolls right out of the pocket and gets hit three yards out of bounds and that wasn't flagged for late hit or roughing the QB? That was a 4 point swing. If called properly, then we are first and goal at the 1/2 yard line. Nobody remembers that...well not the haters.
Bad calls/No calls throughout the entire game.

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If Flacco was 3 yards out of bounds, then it was 3rd and goal from about the 8 yard line.....
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Nice kickoff return............................................ .................................................. no holding here ^
The hold doesn't count because he is trying to break free from the hold by pushing off.
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