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Old 02-06-2013, 10:16 AM
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Rotoworld has the Bengals as 16th in terms of roster rankings.

Top team needs, according to them, is RB, DE, S and QB.

They also question whether Dalton is the answer and say a quality backup is needed.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:22 AM
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Evan Silva is a smart guy. But I would take anything he says about the Bengals with a grain of salt, as he seems to really relish talking mess about them. He steadily tweets about how miserable they are when they lose and says zero about them when anything marginally good happens.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:31 AM
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Rotoworld has the Bengals as 16th in terms of roster rankings.

Top team needs, according to them, is RB, DE, S and QB.

They also question whether Dalton is the answer and say a quality backup is needed.
i saw this article on a Reds Message board...to think we need a QB as a top 4 need is just plain dumb...I am not going to go into depth but you cannot judge a 2nd year starter with no training camp his first year accomplishing something that has not been done in 30 years (b to b playoffs)...just ridiculous...
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:36 AM
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Rotoworld has the Bengals as 16th in terms of roster rankings.

Top team needs, according to them, is RB, DE, S and QB.

They also question whether Dalton is the answer and say a quality backup is needed.
They're just searching for reasons to hate us so they can justify not ranking us higher, which is typical of anyone that ranks the Bengals.

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He threw for more yards and more TDs, won one more game (while making the playoffs again), three 4th quarter comebacks this year against two last year (I think), but that's not improving?

They also didn't list that we need an improvement at center, whether it's Robinson or drafting someone, but we definitely need competition.

They also assume Burfict's moving to the middle (which he may, but he played so well on the outside and said he likes the outside).

That article is horse ****.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:53 AM
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That article is horse ****.
Agree.
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Silva seems to be very hard on young QBs that haven't had the time to develop yet.

He rips Gabbert, Ponder, Locker and Weeden pretty hard as well.

He even ripped Tannehill at times.

He is on the jock, like everyone else, of Newton, Wilson, Kaep, Luck and RGIII.

Those guys, like Dalton, shouldn't be judged already as to whether they will amount to anything IMO.

I do agree that the Bengals need to upgrade the backup QB position.
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Silva seems to be very hard on young QBs that haven't had the time to develop yet.

He rips Gabbert, Ponder, Locker and Weeden pretty hard as well.

He even ripped Tannehill at times.

He is on the jock, like everyone else, of Newton, Wilson, Kaep, Luck and RGIII.

Those guys, like Dalton, shouldn't be judged already as to whether they will amount to anything IMO.

I do agree that the Bengals need to upgrade the backup QB position.
Newton will never get anywhere and RGIII will be like vick in the fact he never plays a full 16 game season.
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Rotoworld has the Bengals as 16th in terms of roster rankings.

Top team needs, according to them, is RB, DE, S and QB.

They also question whether Dalton is the answer and say a quality backup is needed.
His list of team needs just proves he's a moron. No WR? DE? It's the internet, where every ******* with a computer gets to be a self proclaimed expert.
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Why is everyone saying we need a DE? I can see a backup if Geathers leaves but I still wouldn't call it a huge need IMO.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:27 PM
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De- Not a need unless we do not sign Johnson. Defiantly not a need if we sign him and Gillberry back.

Safety- Major need

RB- A Major need

QB- Back up yes but were fine with Dalton.

I would replace DE and QB with LB and CB personally.
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De- Not a need unless we do not sign Johnson. Defiantly not a need if we sign him and Gillberry back.

Safety- Major need

RB- A Major need

QB- Back up yes but were fine with Dalton.

I would replace DE and QB with LB and CB personally.
Indeed, that makes a lot more sense, maybe even OL for depth.
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They're just searching for reasons to hate us so they can justify not ranking us higher, which is typical of anyone that ranks the Bengals.

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He threw for more yards and more TDs, won one more game (while making the playoffs again), three 4th quarter comebacks this year against two last year (I think), but that's not improving?

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Not only did he throw for more yards and more TD's, but Dalton increased his completion percentage to over 62% of his passes. Plus his yards per attempt were also better as was his QB Rating. He improved in every aspect you look for. One could argue he didnt improve enough, but its completely inaccurate and dishonest to imply that he didnt improve at all.

I agree, the article is bogus.
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I agree with the article. We do need a Taller and Stronger Arm QB.

Dalton is ok but he's not a Superbowl QB.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:10 AM
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i saw this article on a Reds Message board...to think we need a QB as a top 4 need is just plain dumb...I am not going to go into depth but you cannot judge a 2nd year starter with no training camp his first year accomplishing something that has not been done in 30 years (b to b playoffs)...just ridiculous...
Dalton draws a similar resume as Flacco does, but they are different types of QBs. If Dalton can steadily progress much how Flacco has, and also continue to make playoff appearances, there is hope. Heck, it worked for Flacco didn't it?
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:16 AM
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Rotoworld has the Bengals as 16th in terms of roster rankings.

Top team needs, according to them, is RB, DE, S and QB.

They also question whether Dalton is the answer and say a quality backup is needed.
LOL you people do realize that Bruce Gradkowski is a FA now, and we have nothing backing up Dalton? So before you go jumping all over people, at least take a second and see where they are coming from. Yes, Dalton got us to the play offs, but was it really him or the strength of the defense that got us there? Because in the last few games of the year, our offense was horrible at scoring.

Anyways, I think it's a do or die year for AD, Get him a number 2 wr, and see how it goes.

Also, when he lists DE, do you people realize that MJ, Geathers and Gilberry are all FA's? The list will change as people get signed.

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Silva seems to be very hard on young QBs that haven't had the time to develop yet.

He rips Gabbert, Ponder, Locker and Weeden pretty hard as well.

He even ripped Tannehill at times.

He is on the jock, like everyone else, of Newton, Wilson, Kaep, Luck and RGIII.

Those guys, like Dalton, shouldn't be judged already as to whether they will amount to anything IMO.

I do agree that the Bengals need to upgrade the backup QB position.
By the time Weeden develops he will be retiring.
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Yes, Dalton got us to the play offs, but was it really him or the strength of the defense that got us there? Because in the last few games of the year, our offense was horrible at scoring.
I agree with the point you were making about these needs being based on the fact that players like Gradkowski and MJ are free agents, but I disagree with your comments on Dalton. The question is how much blame can you lay on Andy for the poor play of the offense over the last few games. I find it difficult to believe that he suddenly bacame a poor QB for the last few games of the season.
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I agree with the point you were making about these needs being based on the fact that players like Gradkowski and MJ are free agents, but I disagree with your comments on Dalton. The question is how much blame can you lay on Andy for the poor play of the offense over the last few games. I find it difficult to believe that he suddenly bacame a poor QB for the last few games of the season.
I think the biggest part was the fact that we tried to put Cook back in and he played like ****.

Give Andy a good offensive line and a good running back that's a homerun threat to keep defenses honest and he'll perform.
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I agree with the article. We do need a Taller and Stronger Arm QB.

Dalton is ok but he's not a Superbowl QB.
I wonder if the Ravens felt Flacco was capable of being a super bowl quarterback?
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QB: After back-to-back late-season collapses, there should be questions within the organization about whether Andy Dalton is the long-term answer. He didn't get better in his second year. At the very least, Cincinnati will be on the lookout for a backup upgrade on free agent Bruce Gradkowski.
Seriously back to back late season collapses? does this moron know that we won 6 of our last 7 games? What a total tool, he forgets that we beat pittsburgh IN pittsburgh. Also, teams figured out that they can just triple AJ green and we have nobody else to throw it to, NOT daltons fault, as well as our problems protecting him in the pocket have rushed his throws. Andy Dalton IS a franchise QB, and will prove all the naysayers wrong this year
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I think the biggest part was the fact that we tried to put Cook back in and he played like ****.

Give Andy a good offensive line and a good running back that's a homerun threat to keep defenses honest and he'll perform.
Cook is a good center, we just rushed him back into action when we didnt need to and his injury had him playing at 80%, and unfortunately an 80% cook was no better than our backup robinson. Cook has always been a good center and will be back to form as soon as the season starts
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Rotoworld has the Bengals as 16th in terms of roster rankings.

Top team needs, according to them, is RB, DE, S and QB.

They also question whether Dalton is the answer and say a quality backup is needed.
They must not realize that the Bengals project Still in rotation at RDE with Johnson, and also will likely re-sign Gilberry although a draft pick here wouldn't be the worst pick in the world. I just don't want to address that if MJ is re-signed until the fourth round.

RB is the key. I like the IDEA of a speedy, break-away threat, but the teams that have the most potent offenses in the league: SF, New Orleans, New England, and (of course in their late-season run) the Ravens, all have a back that doesn't go down on initial contact. They force DBs to hit them low and lead to missed tackles. My choice would be a back like Lacy. Sure, whenever AP breaks an 80 yard TD run I salivate at what a back like that could do in stripes but in reality there is only one AP. IMHO, the best way for the Bengals to protect Dalton and open up the passing game is a bigger body that doesn't go down on the initial hit.

S is my 100% biggest need. No depth, no talent aside from Reggie. Not only would I draft one high, but I would use some of my FA $ for a veteran. When you look at how poor the defense played without Crocker, and even worse when Nelson was down, you realize that a B- safety GREATLY impacted the defense's ability to get hold opponents to under 20 points.

I know that the Bengals have a great deal of faith in Cook and Robinson, but with a guy like Warmack potentially available at #21, I would think a road grader like that with great speed and agility to protect Dalton on passing downs would really help create the "pocket" that Dalton lacks as he is always forced outside from pressure right up the middle.
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I agree with the article. We do need a Taller and Stronger Arm QB.

Dalton is ok but he's not a Superbowl QB.
He looked just fine when Sanu was healthy. Crazy what taking away your second option will do to a quarterback huh...
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They must not realize that the Bengals project Still in rotation at RDE with Johnson, and also will likely re-sign Gilberry although a draft pick here wouldn't be the worst pick in the world. I just don't want to address that if MJ is re-signed until the fourth round.

RB is the key. I like the IDEA of a speedy, break-away threat, but the teams that have the most potent offenses in the league: SF, New Orleans, New England, and (of course in their late-season run) the Ravens, all have a back that doesn't go down on initial contact. They force DBs to hit them low and lead to missed tackles. My choice would be a back like Lacy. Sure, whenever AP breaks an 80 yard TD run I salivate at what a back like that could do in stripes but in reality there is only one AP. IMHO, the best way for the Bengals to protect Dalton and open up the passing game is a bigger body that doesn't go down on the initial hit.

S is my 100% biggest need. No depth, no talent aside from Reggie. Not only would I draft one high, but I would use some of my FA $ for a veteran. When you look at how poor the defense played without Crocker, and even worse when Nelson was down, you realize that a B- safety GREATLY impacted the defense's ability to get hold opponents to under 20 points.

I know that the Bengals have a great deal of faith in Cook and Robinson, but with a guy like Warmack potentially available at #21, I would think a road grader like that with great speed and agility to protect Dalton on passing downs would really help create the "pocket" that Dalton lacks as he is always forced outside from pressure right up the middle.

Hey SHRacerx,I totally agree with your post.You are righton.Hopefully, this staff realizes the same.Its going to be very interesting this offseason.
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