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Lock down Geno for five or 6 years
then get Smith signed to a 5 year or 6 or franchise him
then sign MJ to a 4 or 5 year or franchise him if we sign Smith and MJ doesnt come to an agreement

then FA Dashon Goldson him and Reggie solid
then we sign Boldin if he gets released
dangle our 2b and a 5th for Revis they dont bite so be it

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1 Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, if we dont get Boldin if we do get Boldin, Alec Ogletree or Minter
2a Eddie Lacy
2b if we dont have Revis with this pick we go Khaseem Greene
3 Kyle Long play him at LG
4 Leon McFadden cb
5 Levine Toilolo TE Stanford
6 David Bass DE Missouri Western State
6 RayRay Armstrong
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no thanks on boldin.
why?????? He is the type of player we need opposite of A.J.
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why?????? He is the type of player we need opposite of A.J.
Hes 32 about to be 33 in October. Anyways we have Sanu who is basically a younger version of Bolden.
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Lock down Geno for five or 6 years
then get Smith signed to a 5 year or 6 or franchise him
then sign MJ to a 4 or 5 year or franchise him if we sign Smith and MJ doesnt come to an agreement

then FA Dashon Goldson him and Reggie solid
then we sign Boldin if he gets released
dangle our 2b and a 5th for Revis they dont bite so be it

Draft
1 Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, if we dont get Boldin if we do get Boldin, Alec Ogletree or Minter
2a Eddie Lacy
2b if we dont have Revis with this pick we go Khaseem Greene
3 Kyle Long play him at LG
4 Leon McFadden cb
5 Levine Toilolo TE Stanford
6 David Bass DE Missouri Western State
6 RayRay Armstrong
Isn't this your mock draft?
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:11 PM
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Lock down Geno for five or 6 years
then get Smith signed to a 5 year or 6 or franchise him
then sign MJ to a 4 or 5 year or franchise him if we sign Smith and MJ doesnt come to an agreement

then FA Dashon Goldson him and Reggie solid
then we sign Boldin if he gets released
dangle our 2b and a 5th for Revis they dont bite so be it

Draft
1 Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, if we dont get Boldin if we do get Boldin, Alec Ogletree or Minter
2a Eddie Lacy
2b if we dont have Revis with this pick we go Khaseem Greene
3 Kyle Long play him at LG
4 Leon McFadden cb
5 Levine Toilolo TE Stanford
6 David Bass DE Missouri Western State
6 RayRay Armstrong
no thanks on Revis's Salary.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:53 PM
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Lock down Geno for five or 6 years - 10+ million per
then get Smith signed to a 5 year or 6 or franchise him - at least 7 million per
then sign MJ to a 4 or 5 year or franchise him if we sign Smith and MJ doesnt come to an agreement - franchise tag = 14 million

then FA Dashon Goldson him and Reggie solid - around 4 million per
then we sign Boldin if he gets released - probably 2 yrs and 5 per
dangle our 2b and a 5th for Revis they dont bite so be it - Revis = 11+ million per

Draft
1 Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, if we dont get Boldin if we do get Boldin, Alec Ogletree or Minter
2a Eddie Lacy
2b if we dont have Revis with this pick we go Khaseem Greene
3 Kyle Long play him at LG
4 Leon McFadden cb
5 Levine Toilolo TE Stanford
6 David Bass DE Missouri Western State
6 RayRay Armstrong
That's 47 million just on the FA/trade moves you mention. Then 10+ million for rookies, so that's 57 million. We'd be over the cap with Gilberry, Newman, Jones, Howard and many others still unsigned.

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no thanks on boldin.
Yeah. Who needs a great WR who makes tough catches and has SB experience?
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So you want MJ to prove this year wasn't a fluke but want to give Smith a top 5 RT contract? Doesn't Andre have just as much, if not more, to prove than MJ? Andre has had issue with conditioning and injuries. MJ has had neither.
MJ will never be close to a top 5 DE, where as Andre is top 5 RT right now. Signing Andre should be #1 priority. Solid RTs are a little harder to find then DEs IMO. Not to meantion RTs are a lot cheaper then top DEs to sign. Franchising MJ will be what around 10-11 mill where as Andre would be 7-8 mill. Dont get me wrong I like MJ but most of his sacks came against backups and he probably not be worth the price he will be asking and getting on the open market.
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MJ will never be close to a top 5 DE, where as Andre is top 5 RT right now. Signing Andre should be #1 priority. Solid RTs are a little harder to find then DEs IMO. Not to meantion RTs are a lot cheaper then top DEs to sign. Franchising MJ will be what around 10-11 mill where as Andre would be 7-8 mill. Dont get me wrong I like MJ but most of his sacks came against backups and he probably not be worth the price he will be asking and getting on the open market.
How about we sign both
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MJ will never be close to a top 5 DE, where as Andre is top 5 RT right now. Signing Andre should be #1 priority. Solid RTs are a little harder to find then DEs IMO. Not to meantion RTs are a lot cheaper then top DEs to sign. Franchising MJ will be what around 10-11 mill where as Andre would be 7-8 mill. Dont get me wrong I like MJ but most of his sacks came against backups and he probably not be worth the price he will be asking and getting on the open market.
I agree...and I believe MJ may be a product of the system...just like many "good" NFL players are...Andre should and will be paid for his performance...determining the value of a RT is much simpler than that of a DE..I am not going to give examples but anyone could name many DEFENSIVE players that left a system for big money and faltered with that new team....vice versa you have many players that leave a system and become better in that new system.....a RT is a RT....
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MJ will never be close to a top 5 DE, where as Andre is top 5 RT right now. Signing Andre should be #1 priority. Solid RTs are a little harder to find then DEs IMO. Not to meantion RTs are a lot cheaper then top DEs to sign. Franchising MJ will be what around 10-11 mill where as Andre would be 7-8 mill. Dont get me wrong I like MJ but most of his sacks came against backups and he probably not be worth the price he will be asking and getting on the open market.
Agreed about Andre is already a top RT. Not only all the points you make, but our draft position is much better for drafting a good DE replacement rather than an OT replacement if we don't sign both. Smith higher priority, with MJ second.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:56 AM
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RTs are much easier to replace than DEs.

That is why they get paid less.

I want to keep both MJ and Dre, but if we only keep one it should be MJ. The strength of this team is the D-line, and MJ plys more snaps than any other D-lineman. he struggles for a couple of years because they kept moving him back and forth from LB to DE, but once they made him a full-time DE he has been very solid.
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Re-sign the good players.

Don't expect any "top tier" FA signings. But, sign some mid level players that fit the Bengals schemes.

Draft wisely.

It's slowly starting to work. The Bengals have a good roster, only need a couple of improvements.
We are sooo close......soo close....minor tweaking.....but we'll see what MB does.
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You are the general manager... How do you utilize 55 million in cap space?

For me it's a lot of resigning core players...MJ,Andre...extensions for Geno..etc...

Free agent wise... Either a top tier Center or a top tier Safety... If a trade was made that got us C Johnson, I'd bite, but outside of that I would be looking to re-stock via the draft... Either way you slice it, the Bengals are in great shape to start the offseason....


What would you do?
You obviously don't know how the salary cap work. Haven't you ever read any of Hobsons articles on the subject.

The Bengals have over $55 million in cap space, but by the time they re-sign their own free agents, cut out the rookie pool, and keep a little in reserve in case they have to replace an injured player during the season they will only have about $300 thousand to spend on signing any other free agents.
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We are sooo close......soo close....minor tweaking.....but we'll see what MB does.
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That the Bengals have to spend $32 million to get up to the "salary floor". Or 88.8% of the new $120 million salary cap.

Remember how we though that was supposed to happen offseasons ago, but had to wait? Well, that's this year. So I know a lot of people are saying "for the right price" and things like that, but you DO realize that the Bengals are going to do something in free agency they basically have never done. Spend money.

So let me ask you, how are the Bengals going to spend this money? Or how should they? Because, remember, they have to reach that number because of the new CBA.
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That the Bengals have to spend $32 million to get up to the "salary floor". Or 88.8% of the new $120 million salary cap.

Remember how we though that was supposed to happen offseasons ago, but had to wait? Well, that's this year. So I know a lot of people are saying "for the right price" and things like that, but you DO realize that the Bengals are going to do something in free agency they basically have never done. Spend money.

So let me ask you, how are the Bengals going to spend this money? Or how should they? Because, remember, they have to reach that number because of the new CBA.
I would look at the 500 posts right below yours...especially the one that says...55.5 million..what do you do?
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You're not entirely correct.

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That the Bengals have to spend $32 million to get up to the "salary floor". Or 88.8% of the new $120 million salary cap.

Remember how we though that was supposed to happen offseasons ago, but had to wait? Well, that's this year. So I know a lot of people are saying "for the right price" and things like that, but you DO realize that the Bengals are going to do something in free agency they basically have never done. Spend money.

So let me ask you, how are the Bengals going to spend this money? Or how should they? Because, remember, they have to reach that number because of the new CBA.
You do realize we have around 22 Free agents right?
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How about we sign both
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I would look at the 500 posts right below yours...especially the one that says...55.5 million..what do you do?
55.5 is the ceiling, 32 is the floor...don't look for us to blow the entire wad of cash this season, plus if we lock up our nucleus, that ceiling gets a lot smaller real quick.
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55.5 is the ceiling, 32 is the floor...don't look for us to blow the entire wad of cash this season, plus if we lock up our nucleus, that ceiling gets a lot smaller real quick.
mmmm.. that is just the title of the thread below his...it is about 5 pages and gives most peoples opinions about what do to spend it...it was a nice way of saying to look before you post exactly the same thing as another post already existing
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Lock down Geno for five or 6 years
then get Smith signed to a 5 year or 6 or franchise him
then sign MJ to a 4 or 5 year or franchise him if we sign Smith and MJ doesnt come to an agreement

then FA Dashon Goldson him and Reggie solid
then we sign Boldin if he gets released
dangle our 2b and a 5th for Revis they dont bite so be it

Draft
1 Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, if we dont get Boldin if we do get Boldin, Alec Ogletree or Minter
2a Eddie Lacy
2b if we dont have Revis with this pick we go Khaseem Greene
3 Kyle Long play him at LG
4 Leon McFadden cb
5 Levine Toilolo TE Stanford
6 David Bass DE Missouri Western State
6 RayRay Armstrong
I hear you on Patterson, but I don't think he'll be on the board unless we trade up a bit to get him.

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That the Bengals have to spend $32 million to get up to the "salary floor". Or 88.8% of the new $120 million salary cap.

Remember how we though that was supposed to happen offseasons ago, but had to wait? Well, that's this year. So I know a lot of people are saying "for the right price" and things like that, but you DO realize that the Bengals are going to do something in free agency they basically have never done. Spend money.

So let me ask you, how are the Bengals going to spend this money? Or how should they? Because, remember, they have to reach that number because of the new CBA.
They have to reach that number but it does not have to be thru signing free agents. First and foremost they need to wrap up their own young and productive players. Michael Johnson, Geno Atkins, Carlos Dunlap, Andre Smith,etc. Then bring back guys such as Thomas Howard and Wallace Gilberry oh also Josh Brown.

When the smoke settles from these ventures then see what is left to look into outside free agents. Personally, I would be happy with signing our own landing a good young LB such as DeAndre Levy or Justin Durant and maybe a CB like Sean Smith, Anotione Cason, Derek Cox, or Bradley Fletcher. Maybe take a serious shot at a safety such as Chris Clemons. But a LB and a CB would suit me just fine.
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mmmm.. that is just the title of the thread below his...it is about 5 pages and gives most peoples opinions about what do to spend it...it was a nice way of saying to look before you post exactly the same thing as another post already existing
and a lot of those opinions include spending all 55 on FA signings.
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You do realize we have around 22 Free agents right?
I wouldn't worry about the full 22...a few are definitely history and a few can be upgraded in FA.
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