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Old 02-10-2013, 08:47 AM
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No. The PC I let my five year old use, I just bought new in December. Already, it is loaded with viruses and malware. It's not just the porno pervs who get them.
One of my PC laptops was infected from a link I clicked on in one the threads here a couple of years ago. Totally rearranged the directory and hid most of the files.
So if a link is posted w/o the content pasted, I just wait until someone else does it or I move along to another thread.
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I went Mac in 2008. Switched back in 2010. They are not superior machines. It is not difficult to avoid malware and viruses on windows.

Macs are more user-friendly, but its not enough for me to justify switching to it.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:42 PM
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So much for the updates Mac users... I like getting actual work done...therefore I own a PC.
I like getting actual work done which is why I use a Mac.

PC's are for gamers and spreadsheets.
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:11 PM
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I prefer to build my own rigs after ordering the parts online and mixing and matching to get the most bang for my buck; as opposed to buying anything pre-built. There is just something about putting a build together with your own hands and turning it on and install a fresh OS that is rewarding to me.
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:17 AM
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I like getting actual work done which is why I use a Mac.

PC's are for gamers and spreadsheets.
And for 90% of the business world.
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:21 AM
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zOMG. I bought me a Mac today at Best Buy. The one I got was the 15" MacBook Pro 2.3 GHz quad core Intel Core i7 with 4GB ram and 500 GB hard-drive. I did a lot of research before making the purchase and am very pleased with it! The picture is comparable to my newer HDTV. It's a beauty! Only complaint I have is why it came stock with only 4GB Ram, should of at least been 8 GB! Oh well, in the immediate future, I plan on taking that out and putting 16 gigs in it.

As much crap as Best Buy gets, I found it to be a pretty smooth process, the salesmen wasn't even that bad. They price matched it for me ( I found the same laptop at Micro Center for $100 cheaper) and that was simple too. I also chose to do the 18 month financing which is pretty nice because there's no interest involved whatsoever.

Anyhow, I'm just a happy camper with my new toy and wanted to share! (And incase anyone else was in the market for a newer laptop)


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If Mac ever gets a big enough share of the market, they too will become virus infested machines. As it stands now though, they only control about 10-20 percent of the market.
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Old 02-11-2013, 11:14 AM
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Congrats on over paying for a computer by about a grand. Hope you enjoy!
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Congrats on over paying for a computer by about a grand. Hope you enjoy!
Wrong, built mine with an i7 architecture and it runs circles around the Win 8 64-bit boot on the same build.
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And for 90% of the business world.
And dropping steadily with microsuck office.
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Sure like that's gonna happen! John 8:7 Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Don't reckon you'll be casting stones anytime soon berserkerone88...
I never said I didn't.....
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Wrong, built mine with an i7 architecture and it runs circles around the Win 8 64-bit boot on the same build.
How can you possibly know this...Do you have two identical builds that you can perform these tests on...
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How can you possibly know this...Do you have two identical builds that you can perform these tests on...
No he cant have two identical builds.... As they dont process info the same.


anyone that claims their icomputer is great has never had a great PC...

Apple products or Mac whatever you want to call them are extremely overpriced. And the biggest claim is lack of hackers which no one takes the time to hack them because no one that has one has anything useful on their Mac to get to...


They dont make many games for Macs unless you get a windows immulator.. (then you just bought a Mac to be a crappy PC for you...)

MAc computers are Great if you are in the Art design field But even then the right PC will blow those out of the water too....
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I own apple products and home made PC's, and enjoy using both of them...I have no dog in this hunt. The only thing that bothers me whenever this "debate" comes up is how fiercely and blindly loyal Apple fans are (that's not directed at you, Helldog).

Anyway, I came across this a while back and thought I'd add some fuel to the fire:

1. The only business model for Apple is narcissism. Its true. And for what its worth, the only “geniuses” that work for Apple are the members of their marketing team, because holy hell, we all know that the best way to sell a product in this day and age, especially to Americans, is to patronize their self-righteous beliefs. There are only 2 types of people that buy a Mac:

1) Wannabe nerdy-types that are trying to prove how knowledgeable they are about everything in the tech world
2) Wannabe hipster-types that are trying to prove how knowledgeable (read: trendy and/or “not trendy”) they are about everything in general

Either way, people who are confident enough in their knowledge, self-image, and skills rarely find it necessary (or justifiable) to buy one of these disgustingly over-priced machines. Which brings us to…

2. Macs are ridiculously overpriced. Not only do you get much less for your money when you buy ANY type of Macintosh computer compared to your other options, but you get royally screwed whenever you want any halfway-decent Mac machine. Compare 17-inch MacBook Pros starting at an astounding $2500 with thousands of 17-inch alternatives starting at just $599. This is partly because Apple price-fixes their products so drastically, but is mostly because they’d rather tell you what packages are available instead of letting you decide what works best for you. Hmm… what does that sound like?

3. Macs regularly ignore mainstream industry trends. Where to begin? Because of all the political (read: snobby) games that Steve Jobs gets involved with, most Macs still don’t have HDMI ports, eSATA ports, or BluRay drives, among other mainstream technology standards. Instead of HDMI, for example, they opt for out-of-date DVI ports (but of course only on the MacBook Pro models). This attitude is best summed up by Apple’s 2-decade-long push for world-wide FireWire data ports, which Apple finally dropped many years after its defeat to USB 2.0 was already obvious. (P.S. Apple invented FireWire…)

4. Mac OS X is merely a locked down version of open-source Linux. Its easy to assume that over 90% of Mac owners are not only unaware of this, but don’t have a clue what Linux is. Turns out that back in 1996, after Steve Jobs’ short-lived company NeXT stole its OS base from open-source (read: FREE) BSD Unix, it resold the now proprietary OS to Apple which then became OS X. Perhaps if OS X had the flexibility of Linux, or if Mac fanboys didn’t use Linux concepts (i.e. Terminal) as reasons to brag about OS X, there wouldn’t be so much smearing to do. (Warning: do NOT attempt ask any Mac fanboys about this, or they will ignore your question and start babbling about things like Firefox.)

5. There is no right-********-click! Mac fanboys will respond to this by saying “actually you CAN get a 2-button mouse now!” but even when that is true, the EFFING RIGHT CLICK STILL DOESN’T DO ANYTHING. Oh, cool, I can copy and paste! Oh wait, but I can’t perform any other damn functions in Photoshop or otherwise. And crap, I forgot which combination of 5 keys I need to hold down for right click to work on my 1-button mouse? (Don’t even ask how to make the Delete button actually delete something…)

6. The Dock, and general screen layout, is ********. Again, where to begin?…

The clock doesn’t display a date. That’s cool, cuz I only wanted to remind myself again that today is Monday.
The Dock concept is cute, yet still, ********. You not only can’t see any of the windows that you have minimized, but you also can’t truly adjust the way The Dock behaves or appears. According to Stan, its based on 1984 technology when only 1 program could run at a time. Pretty sweet.
Trying to “X” out of a program doesn’t close it, it simply minimizes it. Just like the minimize button. Except it begins to kill your CPU after you’ve done it a few times by keeping programs running as ghosts. (Total genius.)
Trying to alt-tab through your windows cycles through every single window of every single application one at a time instead of cycling between alternative applications (read: time-killer).
Maximizing a window doesn’t actually maximize it. This is fun, cuz then I get to constantly click on things on the Desktop that I am definitely not interested in.
Opening 100 images in the Mac image viewer opens 100 separate windows. (No comment.)
You can’t drag files around to new destinations such as applications on The Dock or other directories without first preparing both source and destination windows so they are both visible. (Still, no comment.)
etc, etc, etc

7. “It just… doesn’t work.” (Macs crash, freeze, and have evil viruses.) I thought I would dispel all the Mac lies in one sentence, so there you go. If you have ever tried to open Photoshop along with a few other programs on a Mac, you will know this frustration well. More often than not the little rainbow wheel will starting spinning like crazy – that, or your Mac will simply freeze. This is because Macs can’t handle multi-tasking very well (although the issue has been improving, according to some). What hasn’t been improving though is the increasing amount of viruses being found on Macs. Sure, we could play the word game and clarify the difference between trojans and viruses, but the point is that Macs are no safer than any other computer, especially since they ship with their firewall turned off.

8. Software and hardware options for Mac are lame, or slim at best. This is not an overstatement. I am the first to admit that the iTunes/iPod combination is pretty tight (with AAC disabled!). But that’s about it. Mac Mail, iPhoto, GarageBand, iChat, Quicktime, and the rest of the bundled Mac software mostly just *****, or is extremely limited in what it can do. Luckily some programs like VLC and CuteFTP have recently started to offer Mac versions of their software, but good luck trying to find Mac versions of most popular freeware. Not only that, but their claim that “no hunting for drivers is needed” is only true because barely any hardware is made for Macs! For example, only the Airport Extreme card works with Macs but other PCI cards will not. Thus, if someone needed 802.11a, they would need to buy a (very) costly Ethernet adapter.

9. Gaming, and graphics in general, **** on Macs. All true gamers already know this, so it really doesn’t require much explanation. Let’s just say that GizModo’s latest check confirmed that this is still true, even on the most expensive graphics card that MacBook Pro currently offers.

10. Macs are not flexible or customizable. This is a vague way to end things, but mostly because its the only way to sum up all the things that are wrong with Macs. We’ve already seen that you can’t customize their hardware or software, and that you can’t even use the Linux functions that *should* be present on any Linux distro. But even within Mac’s little world itself, you can barely change any options on their OS, user interface, The Dock, directory layout, etc. But hey, as long as the only thing you want to do is change your desktop wallpaper to be the photo you took at the latest indie rock show you attended, then by all means, buy a Mac.

For being so “progressive” Apple sure does seem like one stubborn-*** company. Oh, and please note that hating Macs doesn’t make you a Windows fanboy. It just makes you a reasonable person. =)
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MAc computers are Great if you are in the Art design field But even then the right PC will blow those out of the water too....
This right here...See I’m willing to bet most of these MAC fans here have no Idea why the graphic art communities and other similar type fields adopted the Mac so long ago, and I'm willing to bet they don't know why it makes no difference any more.

Don't get me wrong there are a lot of things that I like about Apple...Their I phones and I Pads are old people and wife proof, for the most part. There products are crafted with nicer looking materials.

However the idea that a comparable PC lacks in performance to a MAC is simply a hold-over from an era long gone.
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I's always funny to me. The only thing I ever hear that is any real argument for Mac is the whole lack of viruses and malware and what not. I've never had a problem with them on my PC, so, yeah.

That list WCU posted is spot on, IMO.
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What's with the fight between Apple and Adobes Flash?

I just don't understand it.
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No he cant have two identical builds.... As they dont process info the same.


anyone that claims their icomputer is great has never had a great PC...

Apple products or Mac whatever you want to call them are extremely overpriced. And the biggest claim is lack of hackers which no one takes the time to hack them because no one that has one has anything useful on their Mac to get to...


They dont make many games for Macs unless you get a windows immulator.. (then you just bought a Mac to be a crappy PC for you...)

MAc computers are Great if you are in the Art design field But even then the right PC will blow those out of the water too....
Agree with this 100%. Apple has great marketing which makes consumers believe that they are getting more than they are actually getting. Wrap it up in a shiny aluminum case, throw a "retina" screen on it, and I can see where they can sell people on them. They are very nice looking computers though, I will give them that.

Im not trying to rip on anyone buying a Mac. They are still very nice computers, I just think they are over priced. We as consumers need to be more aware of what we are buying and what exactly we are getting with the extra amount of cash we throw at apple all the time.
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What's with the fight between Apple and Adobes Flash?

I just don't understand it.
I think Jobs had a business deal that went wrong with Adobe or something. Now Adobe is holding out on partnering with Apple.

I think I remember something along those lines...
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