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Old 02-09-2013, 08:49 PM
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Jason Allen came Out of Tennessee as one of the most athletic safeties in a Long time. He runs a four three fourty is a sure tackler and has above average coverage ability and instincts.moving to safety might be the only Way Allen sticks on This roster, it's my opinion That Brandon ghee will Show and prove This year at corner costing Terrance Newman his roster spot, so Jason Allen either moves to safety or the free agent market
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:54 PM
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Has he gotten over whatever the hell was wrong with him this year. He stole his paychecks this season.

Some say he's a better S than CB.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:56 PM
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That is an idea, for sure. But, the real question is.....can he stay healthy and crack the starting lineup.

As I remember from last season, even after healthy, he couldn't beat out any of the actives.
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I agree with you about Ghee but I also think that Allen will come to play this season.
No reason to cut him unless the same injury problems arise early in the training camp.
He is still under contract and will be looking for another one imo.
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Has he gotten over whatever the hell was wrong with him this year. He stole his paychecks this season.

Some say he's a better S than CB.
Was going to say, everywhere I read said he was WORSE as a S than CB lol.
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:12 PM
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Was going to say, everywhere I read said he was WORSE as a S than CB lol.
I wasn't one of the some because I just don't know. But I have heard it said.
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:23 PM
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He would also save about 3.7 mil of cap space if they cut him.

Then they could sign a REAL safety.
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:24 PM
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That is an idea, for sure. But, the real question is.....can he stay healthy and crack the starting lineup.

As I remember from last season, even after healthy, he couldn't beat out any of the actives.
I'm with you on this, and more so feel totally in the dark on him 'cause I haven't seen enough of his play to determine if he can play. Big mystery as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:34 PM
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He would also save about 3.7 mil of cap space if they cut him.

Then they could sign a REAL safety.
Consider ole' Shamrock onboard w/ this one
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:48 PM
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Its not us to cut a player without giving them a chance if they are healthy.

Jason will probably get his chance next year....Only has a year left anyway after this year.


But yeah he did screw us this year, not his fault, but still......screwed us
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Old 02-09-2013, 10:05 PM
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I agree with you about Ghee but I also think that Allen will come to play this season.
No reason to cut him unless the same injury problems arise early in the training camp.
He is still under contract and will be looking for another one imo.
Yeah but if ghee and prater stick only way to keep Allen is at. Safety
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Old 02-09-2013, 10:33 PM
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You want to take a guy who missed like 14 games with a thigh injury, a THIGH INJURY, and move him to an even more physical position and rely on that? Pass, cut him, save like $3.5-4m in cap space, use that plus another $3.5-4.5m to go get Jairus Byrd or Dashon Goldson.

Jason Allen + $4m more in cap space < Jairus Byrd/Dashon Goldson
Jason Allen + $1-2m more in cap space < Glover Quin

Cut the turd, and get someone who can actually improve the team. Heck, I would rather have to rely on Mays at safety for 16 games then pay Jason Allen and rely on him at safety.
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Old 02-09-2013, 10:40 PM
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You want to take a guy who missed like 14 games with a thigh injury, a THIGH INJURY, and move him to an even more physical position and rely on that? Pass, cut him, save like $3.5-4m in cap space, use that plus another $3.5-4.5m to go get Jairus Byrd or Dashon Goldson.

Jason Allen + $4m more in cap space < Jairus Byrd/Dashon Goldson
Jason Allen + $1-2m more in cap space < Glover Quin

Cut the turd, and get someone who can actually improve the team. Heck, I would rather have to rely on Mays at safety for 16 games then pay Jason Allen and rely on him at safety.
I can see Your point makes sense to cut our ties, but it's a piece of me That would like him to succeed Here, especially since he got free money from us lastyear
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:01 AM
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Who is this "Jason Allen" you speak of? I've only heard rumors.
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Who is this "Jason Allen" you speak of? I've only heard rumors.
I think he means that fake identity that Mike Brown made up so he could give himself a $8m paycheck over 2 years as a way to combat against having the salary cap floor activating soon. Pretty sure he hired some panhandler off the streets of Cincinnati to pretend to be him for a game... I say panhandler, because I can't imagine any real professional football player would allow their one play all year to be a holding penalty that causes the team to lose 72 yards of field position.

Kind of a stroke of brilliance on Mike's part when you think about it.. because after that penalty, nobody ever asked where Allen had vanished to.. because everyone preferred him when they doubted his existence.
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Was going to say, everywhere I read said he was WORSE as a S than CB lol.
Injuries, Injuries,Injuries, thats all this team is about each and every year.Its crazy, really.Never in my football life have I seen so many injuries to so many key players, each and every year.There needs to be something done about our key coaches that are in charge of players staying in shape or someone on here tell me what IS THE ANSWER.I for one have had it about so many year after year of pickin injuries.I get it players get injured, but our team is insane with this.What is the pickin answer.I will go crazy if we have to deal with this crap again this year.You gotta admit,this team is in the top 5 with key injuries and it never changes, from year to year.You cannot win ANYTHING with key injuries.ITS NUTS.
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Seems I recall part of him leaving the texans(?) was because he wanted to play cb, not safety which was where his last team was playing him.
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Just reading his name makes me angry. What an epic waste of money he was last year.
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Injuries, Injuries,Injuries, thats all this team is about each and every year.Its crazy, really.Never in my football life have I seen so many injuries to so many key players, each and every year.There needs to be something done about our key coaches that are in charge of players staying in shape or someone on here tell me what IS THE ANSWER.I for one have had it about so many year after year of pickin injuries.I get it players get injured, but our team is insane with this.What is the pickin answer.I will go crazy if we have to deal with this crap again this year.You gotta admit,this team is in the top 5 with key injuries and it never changes, from year to year.You cannot win ANYTHING with key injuries.ITS NUTS.
We were probably the healthiest team in the AFC North. The Ravens had injuries to core players and won the Super Bowl.
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I think he means that fake identity that Mike Brown made up so he could give himself a $8m paycheck over 2 years as a way to combat against having the salary cap floor activating soon. Pretty sure he hired some panhandler off the streets of Cincinnati to pretend to be him for a game... I say panhandler, because I can't imagine any real professional football player would allow their one play all year to be a holding penalty that causes the team to lose 72 yards of field position.

Kind of a stroke of brilliance on Mike's part when you think about it.. because after that penalty, nobody ever asked where Allen had vanished to.. because everyone preferred him when they doubted his existence.
I expect MB to sign himself as the holder for $10 million a year to hit the floor. Then he'll go on IR.
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No way that's just throwing a band aid over the real issue and a ****ty band aid at that. Nelson is the first safety in Marvin's tenure worthy of being a starter imo. Its been a constant hole and we need to compliment our defense with a talented SS instead of the next nobody from the practice squad. Just watch come training camp Hobson will be brewing up Tony Dye Koolaid like no tomorrow.
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what exactly was the injury that kept him inactive for most of the season?
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how can he help us , if he cant even get on the field ?
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We were probably the healthiest team in the AFC North. The Ravens had injuries to core players and won the Super Bowl.
Now, this really says something about (a) coaches; (b) players; (c) something else.
Whatever it is...it "ain't" in Cincy.
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Jason Allen came Out of Tennessee as one of the most athletic safeties in a Long time. He runs a four three fourty is a sure tackler and has above average coverage ability and instincts.moving to safety might be the only Way Allen sticks on This roster, it's my opinion That Brandon ghee will Show and prove This year at corner costing Terrance Newman his roster spot, so Jason Allen either moves to safety or the free agent market
Based on last year's performance, he should be cut immediately.

Even if he was decent, we are too old at Safety and even more importantly, not very good at the position. I would be happy if we took 1 in the 1st, ok with 1 in the second, and ticked about anything else.
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