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Old 02-14-2013, 02:06 PM
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Seriously...? Why...?
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:39 PM
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I would.


He gives the team a good chance to win if Dalton went down.
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:56 PM
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He gives the team a good chance to win if Dalton went down.
Okay ill give palmer this if it was between palmer and J russell Palmer all the way.

Its just the fact he said he would never play for us again. So why try and make him play for us again?
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I love Carson, but I wouldn't want him back here. I think it would be a huge distraction for a player that isn't talented enough to justify the price at THIS POINT in his career.
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Old 02-14-2013, 03:16 PM
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Shrugs. It's all out there. I'm just not going through all that to dig more of it all up. Most of us remember which is why I ignored the request for proof. I don't really care that much one way or another. It's not like he'd realistically come back, but if he did suddenly want to come back to the organization he (I guess I should say allegedly since I'm not going to look for the exact quote) would rather retire from than start for (as a backup at that), it's interesting some fans will still throw themselves at his feet given how far our organization has come since then.
Sorry, but most of don't remember those words coming out of Carson's mouth. He said he didn't like OSU fans, but that's to be expected because he's loyal to USC.

I doubt Carson would ever come back here unless Marvin is gone. And if Marvin is gone, then I'm fine with him coming back.
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Old 02-14-2013, 03:55 PM
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A good troll, makes it look like hes not trolling.lol

Good one bro......This thing was destined for 20 pages
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:56 PM
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I really like and respect Carson but bringing him back would be a disaster. No way.
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:13 PM
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Sorry, but most of don't remember those words coming out of Carson's mouth. He said he didn't like OSU fans, but that's to be expected because he's loyal to USC.

I doubt Carson would ever come back here unless Marvin is gone. And if Marvin is gone, then I'm fine with him coming back.
Ok. Carson loved us. I don't know why I remember the story of trash being thrown in his lawn, maybe a neighbor drove by and reported it. The boooo's he heard maybe a ref threw a flag for holding around the same time, and his wife was fine.

I wonder why Palmer said what he said then...

http://www.bengals.com/news/article-...7-44631ca5d911

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CP: Oh yeah. Different stuff. Trash bags thrown on the lawn. I don’t mind people yelling at me, or saying things to me in public. What bugs me a little bit is saying stuff to my wife, and your kids are around. Nobody wants their kids to go through any of that. Not that my kids are old enough to understand it, but still. That’s the only thing that bugs me. People can say whatever they want about me, it doesn’t bug me.

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Ok. Carson loved us. I don't know why I remember the story of trash being thrown in his lawn, maybe a neighbor drove by and reported it. The boooo's he heard maybe a ref threw a flag for holding around the same time, and his wife was fine.

I wonder why Palmer said what he said then...

http://www.bengals.com/news/article-...7-44631ca5d911
What's wrong with that? I think any player would say the same thing. It doesn't mean he hates the city or its fans it means hates the idiots that do stuff like that. Every city has morons but it doesn't mean he needs to be cool with people ****ing with his family.
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:40 PM
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What's wrong with that? I think any player would say the same thing. It doesn't mean he hates the city or its fans it means hates the idiots that do stuff like that. Every city has morons but it doesn't mean he needs to be cool with people ****ing with his family.
I thought the question was did he say any of that stuff, and he did. Now put that with what Whit (his very good friend) said in my previous link I presented and bam you begin to get a picture of what all was going on in his head the season prior to his "retirement". But I can't believe you guys don't remember all of this. I refuse to believe it. Not even sure why I'm taking heat for it. I didn't quit on you guys. But continue on with the discussion....
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:48 PM
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Let him rot somewhere else. He doesn't deserve to sit on the sideline and watch this team win with him on the roster.
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:56 PM
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Naw, i was just as glad as anyone when he left, not that I don't think he would be a up-grade to what we have, but he would never get a fair shake here, maybe he can land in a good situation, Arizona maybe.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:36 PM
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Talent wise he'd be a good backup but as others have said, it would be a distraction and hurt the team more than help.

And to be perfectly honest, I do harbor some negative feelings. I understand that he may not have always been treated well by the fans or FO, but honestly quitting doesn't solve much of anything, as has been proven here.
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:53 PM
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No, will never happen, ever. Too much bad blood, I don't know if Brown would even let Carson retire a Bengal so he deff would be coming back to play second fiddle to Dalton. /end thread
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:15 PM
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The question is this: Is Carson Palmer better than Bruce Gradkowski? The answer is a solid yes. Therefore, were it possible, I would welcome Carson Palmer back in Cincinnati.
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:25 PM
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I liked Carson and I say no. He didn't want to be here so I don't want him back. I'd like to see him go to a QB needy team and see him play well though. I don't hate the guy at all I just don't see him wanting back in here. I wouldn't mind seeing him go to the jets or chiefs however I'd be ****** if he ended up in Cleveland.

He is probably one of our top 5 QBs

Anderson, Boomer, Palmer, Blake, Dalton
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:31 PM
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I thought the question was did he say any of that stuff, and he did. Now put that with what Whit (his very good friend) said in my previous link I presented and bam you begin to get a picture of what all was going on in his head the season prior to his "retirement". But I can't believe you guys don't remember all of this. I refuse to believe it. Not even sure why I'm taking heat for it. I didn't quit on you guys. But continue on with the discussion....
You said that Palmer said he hated the city, fans and organization. Bringing up quotes that say none of those things and then saying, "See, I proved my point." doesn't make sense.

Here's what I think happened: Palmer said nothing so people decided to speculate why he wanted out. The speculation became fact in some people's minds. Doesn't make it true.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:59 PM
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He managed that with almost no running game, a horrible OC, and receivers who couldn't catch(not an exaggeration; one of the starting receivers got benched because of drops).
Seems I've heard this somewhere before. Poor CP9; a career of no running game, bad OCs, and terrible WRs. He deserved better.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:24 PM
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I think strongly that it would create the most unhealthy QB controversy that this team had ever known. Carson left, period. This team did everything to try and get him not to leave and none of it worked. Even after a great draft and getting rid of Chad and Brat, he still refused to play here. That says a lot to me, and honestly about his football prowess. If he didnt see the potential in this team with the draft it had, then he didnt know his own team well enough to even be considered a leader type, and if that is not true then he just hates it here. The results speak for themselves. All you have to look at are the results to know what we had in Carson. A gunslinger type QB with no heart isnt even close to a SB caliber QB and he's proved it in two places now. Andy, with less talent and arm, is a better QB because of his heart and leadership. Results speak so much louder than media and fan opinion. Its really all that needs looked at.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:26 PM
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Why would anyone want a quitter in this locker room? No thanks. He'll get a starting job somewhere anyway.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:31 PM
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Seems pretty unlikely Bengal fans will ever be asked to.
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He'll get a starting job somewhere anyway.
...and I'll go out on a limb and say where ever that is he'll not be able to be an elite QB because of a poor running game, bad OC, and terrible WRs.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:41 PM
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...and I'll go out on a limb and say where ever that is he'll not be able to be an elite QB because of a poor running game, bad OC, and terrible WRs.
You forgot bad line.
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You forgot bad line.
I thought it was injuries.
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Seems I've heard this somewhere before. Poor CP9; a career of no running game, bad OCs, and terrible WRs. He deserved better.
Average ranked overall rushing offense since 2008(when he started being a "horrible QB"): 22nd

Average defense:
22nd in points allowed
18th in yards allowed

Brat was horrible, that's an almost unanimous thought on these boards.
The previous Oakland OC got fired after only one season, so it's safe to say he was horrible too.

You can be as sarcastic as you want, but there's absolutely no denying that what I stated is a fact.

Anyway, I'm done here.

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