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Old 02-17-2013, 07:50 PM
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Default Pete Prisco: Michael Johnson #1 free agent on market

And in case you wanted more bad news, the Browns are rumoured to be "very interested" in Johnson as well. Could turn into a bidding war. Better get that franchise tag ready.

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Fan-****ing-tastic.
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Let him go or franchise tag him.

Sign Andre to a 1 or 2 year deal.
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Mr. Brown, get your checkbook ready...
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Man, I hope they're wrong. If they're right, then I did not see that coming at all. I'm not seeing it honestly, but maybe I'm wrong.
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no remember he is gonna sign some horrible sweetheart deal for like 8 million per
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Mike Brown should not over pay him.
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Always been one of the biggest MJ fans (one of the very few that think he has been more valuable than Dunlap). However, the price of becoming an elite organization is having to make difficult choices as these.
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Mike Brown should not over pay him.

I didn't mean it to sound like overpay, just pay him fair market value. He's a young, rising star in the NFL. The team would be fool hardy to let him get away.
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And in case you wanted more bad news, the Browns are rumoured to be "very interested" in Johnson as well. Could turn into a bidding war. Better get that franchise tag ready.

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2013/2/17...-on-the-market
Aren't the Turds going to a 3-4? Is MJ even a 3-4 end? And why would he want to take a giant step backwards? So what they have a new this and a new that. They do that every three or four years with the same results--sukking. Is Pete Prisco in charge of free agency or something? Should we enter mass hysteria cuz Pete Prisco said something? Let's not jump off any tall buildings just yet. MJ ain't going nowhere., least of all Cleveland.
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Always been one of the biggest MJ fans (one of the very few that think he has been more valuable than Dunlap). However, the price of becoming an elite organization is having to make difficult choices as these.
You certainly have been.

The best thing we can do is just tag him now. Get it over with.
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Always been one of the biggest MJ fans (one of the very few that think he has been more valuable than Dunlap). However, the price of becoming an elite organization is having to make difficult choices as these.
Yup. Expect a Charles Johnson-like contract around 6 years/$75M
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Let him go or franchise tag him.

Sign Andre to a 1 or 2 year deal.
Sign MJ to a multiyear deal and franchise Andre or just let him go. The guy I saw in the Eagles game seems replaceable to me.
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It wouldn't surprise me one bit. They overpaid Rucker too. Otherwise he'd still be here.

They are going to the 3-4 and need a speedy pass rusher.

They need 4 solid LBs and only have one currently on the roster.

So if they don't make a splash in FA or the draft they are screwed.

If we tag MJ they wouldn't touch it. I thought I heard they don't have a 2nd rounder this year so that would diminish their draft too much.
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Yup. Expect a Charles Johnson-like contract around 6 years/$75M
Been saying that for awhile. The similarity between the two is pretty nuts
People aren't happy about it
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Sign MJ to a multiyear deal and franchise Andre or just let him go. The guy I saw in the Eagles game seems replaceable to me.
andre wont see brandon graham for 3 more years, so sign him up
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The situation sorta reminds me of the old JJo-Leon debate.

Which one do you sink the money into Dunlap or MJ?
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Aren't the Turds going to a 3-4? Is MJ even a 3-4 end? And why would he want to take a giant step backwards? So what they have a new this and a new that. They do that every three or four years with the same results--sukking. Is Pete Prisco in charge of free agency or something? Should we enter mass hysteria cuz Pete Prisco said something? Let's not jump off any tall buildings just yet. MJ ain't going nowhere., least of all Cleveland.
Maybe they see him as a potential Demarcus Ware type OLB.

He has played OLB before (in a 4-3 obviously), but they'd probably just have him mostly rush the passer like Ware.

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Man, I hope they're wrong. If they're right, then I did not see that coming at all. I'm not seeing it honestly, but maybe I'm wrong.
Told ya bro.

He's gonna get paid. He's 26 years old coming off 11.5 sacks.

Someone will overpay because of the fluky season he had. That's why I've been saying to let him walk.

Geno is the man we need to pay on that line. No one else should get major $.
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The situation sorta reminds me of the old JJo-Leon debate.

Which one do you sink the money into Dunlap or MJ?
I don't think it's quite the same thing. But based on Bengals history it will go to the "safer" bet.

Will they value Dunlap's pass rush or MJ's durability more.
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Yup. Expect a Charles Johnson-like contract around 6 years/$75M
I wouldn't pay him that much, unfortunately for him he has be consistent enough to me to merit that kind of contract. That's just my opinion, consistency is key to merit that kind of contract, I don't see it.
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This is the Hall/Joseph scenario all over again. We can't sign them both so the organization has to decide which one they want to give the money too. Can't have them both, not for 10 million a year, along with Atkins, Green, and Dalton up next.

If the organization likes Dunlap more then they will offer MJ a 5-6 million per yr that he either takes or doesn't. And visversa if the team likes MJ, they will pay him this yr and offer a 5-6 million per yr to Dunlap next yr.

I know fans want us to sign everyone, but we can't pay huge money to everyone. It just doesn't work that way, so it just comes down to who the organization values more.....
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I wouldn't pay him that much, unfortunately for him he has be consistent enough to me to merit that kind of contract. That's just my opinion, consistency is key to merit that kind of contract, I don't see it.
Not really his fault that the coaches wouldn't commit him to one position. As soon as he started playing DE full time, he's gotten better every year. 11.5 should merit a pretty big contract.
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Not really his fault that the coaches wouldn't commit him to one position. As soon as he started playing DE full time, he's gotten better every year. 11.5 should merit a pretty big contract.
And that's your opinion, which is fine, but you can kiss goodbye to dunlap after this year.
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And in case you wanted more bad news, the Browns are rumoured to be "very interested" in Johnson as well. Could turn into a bidding war. Better get that franchise tag ready.

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2013/2/17...-on-the-market
People who say not to overpay him, we need to spend a bunch of money somehow, and Geno might make any end look good, but why mess with what's working?
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People who say not to overpay him, we need to spend a bunch of money somehow, and Geno might make any end look good, but why mess with what's working?
Cause you can't spend huge money on Dalton, Atkins, Green, Gresham, Dunlap, Hall, Reggie Nelson, Andre Smith, Taz (soon if he keeps improving), and MJ. It would be nice, but you have to pick which guys you wanna pay the big money to. You can't just sign big contracts cause its been working, because eventually you'll hit a stopping pt cause you can't afford it anymore....
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