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Old 02-24-2013, 12:45 PM
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Default 2013 Cincinnati Bengals Top Base Salaries

1 Leon Hall at Cornerback $6,500,000
2 Andrew Whitworth at Tackle $4,550,000
3 Domata Peko at Defensive Tackle $3,900,000
4 Jason Allen at Cornerback $3,000,000
5 Travelle Wharton at Tackle $2,675,000
6 Kyle Cook at Center $2,500,000
Jamaal Anderson at Defensive End $2,500,000
8 Reggie Nelson at Safety $2,450,000
9 BenJarvus Green-Ellis at Running Back $2,300,000
10 A.J. Green at Wide Receiver $2,164,826

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Allen and Anderson. Ouch.
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Allen and Anderson. Ouch.
Hell, we could cut bait w/ #4, #5, + both #6s and our team wouldn't skip a beat.

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Hell, we could cut bait w/ #4, #5, + both #6s and our team wouldn't skip a beat.
All are leading in the cap hits as well.

Wharton - 3.7
Allen - 4.1
Cook - 3.3
Anderson - 2.7

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/cap-hit/
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All are leading in the cap hits as well.

Wharton - 3.7
Allen - 4.1
Cook - 3.3
Anderson - 2.7

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/cap-hit/
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We're paying Jamaal Anderson over 2.5 mil?!?!?!?! I honestly don't even understand how that's possible. Why on earth did we pay him that much? And why hasn't he been released already?

I'd cut him, Wharton, and Allen immediately. Depending on what we do at center, Cook could be a sensible cut as well. That's up to 10 mil in cap space freed up.
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Wharton has a role when healthy.

We overpay for busts...
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Sickens me how many guys are at the top of that list that dont even play....or played horrible last season
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We're paying Jamaal Anderson over 2.5 mil?!?!?!?! I honestly don't even understand how that's possible. Why on earth did we pay him that much? And why hasn't he been released already?

I'd cut him, Wharton, and Allen immediately. Depending on what we do at center, Cook could be a sensible cut as well. That's up to 10 mil in cap space freed up.
I guess 24 tackles and 3 sacks in 15 games is worth 2.5 mil per

Those were his numbers the year before he signed here.

Good news is NONE of that money is guaranteed this year.
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1 Leon Hall at Cornerback $6,500,000
2 Andrew Whitworth at Tackle $4,550,000
3 Domata Peko at Defensive Tackle $3,900,000
4 Jason Allen at Cornerback $3,000,000
5 Travelle Wharton at Tackle $2,675,000
6 Kyle Cook at Center $2,500,000
Jamaal Anderson at Defensive End $2,500,000
8 Reggie Nelson at Safety $2,450,000
9 BenJarvus Green-Ellis at Running Back $2,300,000
10 A.J. Green at Wide Receiver $2,164,826
Where did this list come from? I could have sworn Nelson signed last year for over 6 million a year.
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Where did this list come from? I could have sworn Nelson signed last year for over 6 million a year.
4 yrs - 18 mil

Annual salary of 4.5 mil

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnat...reggie-nelson/
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Wouldn't hurt my feelings any if #4, #5, #6, and #7 got cut. That'd be over $10.5 million gone in base salary, and probably more in cap hit.
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I think thoses numbers are gonna change big time
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4 yrs - 18 mil

Annual salary of 4.5 mil

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnat...reggie-nelson/
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At those numbers, we got a steal in my opinion.

There is no way a guy like Gholson is worth twice the money Reggie is worth.
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We're paying Jamaal Anderson over 2.5 mil?!?!?!?! I honestly don't even understand how that's possible. Why on earth did we pay him that much? And why hasn't he been released already?

I'd cut him, Wharton, and Allen immediately. Depending on what we do at center, Cook could be a sensible cut as well. That's up to 10 mil in cap space freed up.
Wharton might come back and be okay, I'd at least wanna see him in TC. I agree on the other guys.

Answer me this, why did we not just cut Allen already and give that money to the SS Wilson that Buffalo let go and the Titans signed for 2 mil. From what I've heard dude could step in and immediately be our starting SS and would be a huge upgrade from what we've got.

But nooooo, we're gonna pay Allen 3 mil and he aint' even gonna start??!!?? Marvin needs to get over his friggin cb fetish man. They're killin me.
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Wharton might come back and be okay, I'd at least wanna see him in TC. I agree on the other guys.

Answer me this, why did we not just cut Allen already and give that money to the SS Wilson that Buffalo let go and the Titans signed for 2 mil. From what I've heard dude could step in and immediately be our starting SS and would be a huge upgrade from what we've got.

But nooooo, we're gonna pay Allen 3 mil and he aint' even gonna start??!!?? Marvin needs to get over his friggin cb fetish man. They're killin me.
I don't see Wharton coming back. Or at least he shouldn't. There was talk before Wharton got hurt that Boling was pressing him for the starting role. That was BEFORE Boling got an entire season worth of experience, and a year older (which is an advantage for a young guy, he needs to keep growing into a OL body), and Wharton got an entire season of no playing and a year older.

That's two positives for Boling, two negatives for Wharton, in a matchup that apparently was already pretty close. So I don't see them bringing him back as a backup making that much.

.... As for Allen, he needs to be cut, along with Anderson, Conner, and Cook.

Cap Savings-
Cook: ~1.5m in 2013 (3.3m in 2014, 3.3m in 2015)
Conner: .6m in 2013
Anderson: 2.7m in 2013
Wharton: 1.6m in 2013 (3.7m in 2014)
Allen: 3.7m in 2013

Total Cap Savings in 2013: $10.1m

Conner --> Pressley... Anderson --> Evans... Cook --> Robinson/Draft Pick... Allen --> Ghee/Prater... Wharton --> Boling

So since most of those guys aren't really vital players, the only replacement that might actually cost money that the Bengals aren't already spending is possibly Center if they go for a higher draft pick, so even if you set aside $2m or so for that, you're still looking at like $8m in cap space.

That $8m is what Jairus Byrd will make, or what Glover Quin will make (with $2-3m to spare).... and only about $1-2m off what Mike Wallace or Dwayne Bowe will make.
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I don't see Wharton coming back. Or at least he shouldn't. There was talk before Wharton got hurt that Boling was pressing him for the starting role. That was BEFORE Boling got an entire season worth of experience, and a year older (which is an advantage for a young guy, he needs to keep growing into a OL body), and Wharton got an entire season of no playing and a year older.

That's two positives for Boling, two negatives for Wharton, in a matchup that apparently was already pretty close. So I don't see them bringing him back as a backup making that much.

.... As for Allen, he needs to be cut, along with Anderson, Conner, and Cook.

Cap Savings-
Cook: ~1.5m in 2013 (3.3m in 2014, 3.3m in 2015)
Conner: .6m in 2013
Anderson: 2.7m in 2013
Wharton: 1.6m in 2013 (3.7m in 2014)
Allen: 3.7m in 2013

Total Cap Savings in 2013: $10.1m

Conner --> Pressley... Anderson --> Evans... Cook --> Robinson/Draft Pick... Allen --> Ghee/Prater... Wharton --> Boling

So since most of those guys aren't really vital players, the only replacement that might actually cost money that the Bengals aren't already spending is possibly Center if they go for a higher draft pick, so even if you set aside $2m or so for that, you're still looking at like $8m in cap space.

That $8m is what Jairus Byrd will make, or what Glover Quin will make (with $2-3m to spare).... and only about $1-2m off what Mike Wallace or Dwayne Bowe will make.
I can dig it. Maybe we like Frederick at 2A or B to press for a position at C or LG.
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It wouldn't bother me if the Bengals kept Wharton.

The dude can play every line spot but C and be pretty good at it (unless the injury keeps him from playing at previous levels).

A veteran swing man like that is nice to have.
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I think we found something that Peko and Sims are not pretty much equal at
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I can dig it. Maybe we like Frederick at 2A or B to press for a position at C or LG.
Absolutely, Frederick would solve the OL need at 2B as long as they resign Smith.

Then assuming you use the saved money on Byrd or Quin, the only needs left are RB, OLB, and WR. Ogletree in the first round, then Bernard or Lacy with 2A... and I would love for them to bring in David Nelson as a FA WR. Shouldn't be a pricey one coming off an injury, but I think a 6'5" #2 target for Dalton would be excellent and he's had a fairly good season before with Fitzpatrick at QB. I have faith he can put up 60/750/7. It would allow Sanu to split time with Hawkins in the slot.

That would solve all the Bengal's needs. OL, S, WR, OLB, RB.... heck, I might even say double up on RB with Ball in the 3rd or something like that. Can never have too many good ball carriers. Otherwise I guess go best CB in the 3rd.
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We're paying Jamaal Anderson over 2.5 mil?!?!?!?! I honestly don't even understand how that's possible. Why on earth did we pay him that much? And why hasn't he been released already?

I'd cut him, Wharton, and Allen immediately. Depending on what we do at center, Cook could be a sensible cut as well. That's up to 10 mil in cap space freed up.
See, but that means that's 10 million more they need to find a way to spend...
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Absolutely, Frederick would solve the OL need at 2B as long as they resign Smith.

Then assuming you use the saved money on Byrd or Quin, the only needs left are RB, OLB, and WR. Ogletree in the first round, then Bernard or Lacy with 2A... and I would love for them to bring in David Nelson as a FA WR. Shouldn't be a pricey one coming off an injury, but I think a 6'5" #2 target for Dalton would be excellent and he's had a fairly good season before with Fitzpatrick at QB. I have faith he can put up 60/750/7. It would allow Sanu to split time with Hawkins in the slot.

That would solve all the Bengal's needs. OL, S, WR, OLB, RB.... heck, I might even say double up on RB with Ball in the 3rd or something like that. Can never have too many good ball carriers. Otherwise I guess go best CB in the 3rd.
David Nelson might be all right and would def love to see SS signed as well. I'm thinking if we want Lacy we should just do it at 21 to make sure we get him then if we can go OLB at 37 and Frederick at 2b, that would great.

In the third, I wanna see us get my guy in my sig like no other. That dude is a beast. He may appear to be a tweener not worth a third but I believe he would be a steal there. He will find a way to make an impact in this league, I'm sure of it. If nothing else, you can put him in on passing downs and just let him rush the QB. Dude is just a baller, he will make plays, I have no doubt.
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I don't see Wharton coming back. Or at least he shouldn't. There was talk before Wharton got hurt that Boling was pressing him for the starting role. That was BEFORE Boling got an entire season worth of experience, and a year older (which is an advantage for a young guy, he needs to keep growing into a OL body), and Wharton got an entire season of no playing and a year older.

That's two positives for Boling, two negatives for Wharton, in a matchup that apparently was already pretty close. So I don't see them bringing him back as a backup making that much.

.... As for Allen, he needs to be cut, along with Anderson, Conner, and Cook.

Cap Savings-
Cook: ~1.5m in 2013 (3.3m in 2014, 3.3m in 2015)
Conner: .6m in 2013
Anderson: 2.7m in 2013
Wharton: 1.6m in 2013 (3.7m in 2014)
Allen: 3.7m in 2013

Total Cap Savings in 2013: $10.1m

Conner --> Pressley... Anderson --> Evans... Cook --> Robinson/Draft Pick... Allen --> Ghee/Prater... Wharton --> Boling

So since most of those guys aren't really vital players, the only replacement that might actually cost money that the Bengals aren't already spending is possibly Center if they go for a higher draft pick, so even if you set aside $2m or so for that, you're still looking at like $8m in cap space.

That $8m is what Jairus Byrd will make, or what Glover Quin will make (with $2-3m to spare).... and only about $1-2m off what Mike Wallace or Dwayne Bowe will make.
Nice breakdown. If anything we learned that they still have some moves that would free up a nice chunk of change. That should dispel the worries that they have to pick Atkins OR MJ and such, they have the money to keep everyone and even sign a few average vets.
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