Eddie Lacy..Bengals

[spazz70]

Did not see this article posted...specific to Lacy becoming a Bengal...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...engals-offense

[wildcats forever]

While Lacy does interest me, I kind of lost interest in the article at the point where our offensive line was described as "stellar". Not totally hating on our line, but stellar is not what I saw last year.

[Burma]

I knew he had a deadly spin move, but I didn't know he was so much better than Gio at making guys miss.

Lacy consistently won in open-field one-on-one situations in the four games I viewed. I charted him with 16 "wins" compared to just four "losses" when he hit green grass and encountered the initial defender. [Compare this to UNC's Giovani Bernard, whom I charted at 5-of-13 (38.5 percent) one-on-one in the open field.] Lacy forced missed tackles with both power and elusiveness. He is blessed with exceptionally light feet for a big man, and his trademark move is the lateral shake to set up a spin. Lacy made LSU S Eric Reid, Notre Dame LB Manti Te'o, Arkansas LB Alonzo Highsmith, and Notre Dame S Zeke Motta all look genuinely silly on tape. Those four defenders will play on Sundays.

[coachmcneil71]

I would be stoked with Lacy at 21! There are other backs that I like but he's a solid pick imho.

[RIPChrisHenry]

Originally Posted by wildcats forever

While Lacy does interest me, I kind of lost interest in the article at the point where our offensive line was described as "stellar". Not totally hating on our line, but stellar is not what I saw last year.

our oline was stellar...but in run blocking as a whole idk know if i would use the word stellar but we were dominant imo when it came to run blocking.

[BengaliJack]

The guys a beast....I love to see him in stripes.

[momadance02]

Love Lacy, but I'm not high on getting a first round RB.
I'd rather snag Vaccaro.

[spazz70]

Originally Posted by momadance02

Love Lacy, but I'm not high on getting a first round RB.
I'd rather snag Vaccaro.

What if we traded down a few spots and picked up an extra 2 or 3 and Lacy was still there?

[crazymad]

Originally Posted by spazz70

What if we traded down a few spots and picked up an extra 2 or 3 and Lacy was still there?

not interested in a high round rb, imho lacy is a product of one of the best college offensive lines ever assembled. we have a good(not great) line and lacy will be an average back here and we already have one of those. we need a speed back and franklin will be available in the 3rd or 4th and fits what we want to do alot better. that way we can use our first 3 or 4 picks to make our defense and o line even more stout

[Bengals Fan For Life!]

Typically I would be opposed to RB in first round...however...with an extra 2nd...with our need...oh and if Lacy is available...lets do it. Ingram and Richardson are beasts. Maybe there is something to those Bama backs lately.

[spazz70]

[quote=crazymad;2816091]not interested in a high round rb, imho lacy is a product of one of the best college offensive lines ever assembled. we have a good(not great) line and lacy will be an average back here and we already have one of those. we need a speed back and franklin will be available in the 3rd or 4th and fits what we want to do alot better. that way we can use our first 3 or 4 picks to make our defense and o line even more stout[/QUOTE

I believe that Lacy will be a workhorse RB in the NFL for many years...big, strong fast....I believe a big upgrade over BJGE....most everyone wants to replace BJGE but then want a 5th round pick that "may" workout...I do not want a "compliment" to BJGE...I want an every down back for the next 8 years..

[crazymad]

[quote=spazz70;2816101]

Originally Posted by crazymad

not interested in a high round rb, imho lacy is a product of one of the best college offensive lines ever assembled. we have a good(not great) line and lacy will be an average back here and we already have one of those. we need a speed back and franklin will be available in the 3rd or 4th and fits what we want to do alot better. that way we can use our first 3 or 4 picks to make our defense and o line even more stout[/QUOTE

I believe that Lacy will be a workhorse RB in the NFL for many years...big, strong fast....I believe a big upgrade over BJGE....most everyone wants to replace BJGE but then want a 5th round pick that "may" workout...I do not want a "compliment" to BJGE...I want an every down back for the next 8 years..

then that is where we differ, i dont want to get rid of BJGE he's good for 3 yards every time he touches the ball. he was very very good the second half of the year except the steelers game(best d in the nfl). imo lacy is overrated and injury prone

[BengalBuckeye]

[quote=crazymad;2816118]

Originally Posted by spazz70

then that is where we differ, i dont want to get rid of BJGE he's good for 3 yards every time he touches the ball. he was very very good the second half of the year except the steelers game(best d in the nfl). imo lacy is overrated and injury prone

That is just great a starting rb that gets you 3 yards a pop. With a ypc like that why didn't he start in the Pro Bowl, oh yeah that's right to start you have to actually make the game. I never like BJGE when he was in New England and don't know why we signed him. I want a back that can take it to the house on any carry. BJGE couldn't take it to the house if he got started at midfield and the defense went into halftime then came out and tackled him.

[crazymad]

[quote=BengalBuckeye;2816129]

Originally Posted by crazymad

That is just great a starting rb that gets you 3 yards a pop. With a ypc like that why didn't he start in the Pro Bowl, oh yeah that's right to start you have to actually make the game. I never like BJGE when he was in New England and don't know why we signed him. I want a back that can take it to the house on any carry. BJGE couldn't take it to the house if he got started at midfield and the defense went into halftime then came out and tackled him.

i never said he was a pro bowler, i want a back that can get tough yards and BJGE has proven to me he can gets those yards. he doesnt need to break the long one everytime thats why we have AJG and baby hawk and jones, and hopefully a speedy compliment rb that we draft later on(franklin). and i didnt mean he gets 3 ypc what i meant was that he shortens the sticks by going forward and not lateral and gets what he can get when he can get it, he has ripped a bunch of 7- 10 yard runs, he's tough and durable.

[spazz70]

[quote=crazymad;2816138]

Originally Posted by BengalBuckeye

i never said he was a pro bowler, i want a back that can get tough yards and BJGE has proven to me he can gets those yards. he doesnt need to break the long one everytime thats why we have AJG and baby hawk and jones, and hopefully a speedy compliment rb that we draft later on(franklin). and i didnt mean he gets 3 ypc what i meant was that he shortens the sticks by going forward and not lateral and gets what he can get when he can get it, he has ripped a bunch of 7- 10 yard runs, he's tough and durable.

I could have ripped those yards with the holes he had...all of those 20-30 yard runs he had would be TDs with Lacy....your speed back is not going to get the carries and have those holes like the starter/workhorse...we need a back that can be an every down back and take it to the house...this guy reminds me so much of Corey Dillon and I like that....keep BJGE for 3rd down if you want ..fine with me...great at pass protection/goal line/3rd down....no problem....

[NATI BENGALS]

Originally Posted by crazymad

then that is where we differ, i dont want to get rid of BJGE he's good for 3 yards every time he touches the ball. he was very very good the second half of the year except the steelers game(best d in the nfl). imo lacy is overrated and injury prone

BJGE isn't going anywhere. We will be upgrading at HB and we will be keeping the best one currently on our team. Drafting Lacy doesn't mean cutting BJGE. I think he was signed to be a short yardage and goal line specialist and a big part of a committee. Injuries made him a bigger part of the plan.

You are entitled to your own opinion. But a career average of 7ypc playing in the SEC aint no joke. Sure he has a good OL. But they are not the ones making people miss in the backfield and breaking tackles. He did plenty on his own.

[crazymad]

[quote=spazz70;2816147]

Originally Posted by crazymad

I could have ripped those yards with the holes he had...all of those 20-30 yard runs he had would be TDs with Lacy....your speed back is not going to get the carries and have those holes like the starter/workhorse...we need a back that can be an every down back and take it to the house...this guy reminds me so much of Corey Dillon and I like that....keep BJGE for 3rd down if you want ..fine with me...great at pass protection/goal line/3rd down....no problem....

it isnt up to me, if it was lacy wouldnt be my 1st rounder.

[bfine32]

You guys have really jacked up the quote function

[spazz70]

Originally Posted by NATI BENGALS

BJGE isn't going anywhere. We will be upgrading at HB and we will be keeping the best one currently on our team. Drafting Lacy doesn't mean cutting BJGE. I think he was signed to be a short yardage and goal line specialist and a big part of a committee. Injuries made him a bigger part of the plan.

You are entitled to your own opinion. But a career average of 7ypc playing in the SEC aint no joke. Sure he has a good OL. But they are not the ones making people miss in the backfield and breaking tackles. He did plenty on his own.

Thank you for the support....I am not sure if the Bengals will take him at 21 but I would not be unhappy if they did....I know this is a highlight film but please watch it if you have not....this kid breaks tackles...falls like 5 yards forward after contact.....has quick feet....leaves jocks on the field....runs over people...catches out of the back field.....can take it to the house (at least in college)....the kid is a stud....he gets a lot of holes from a great OL but watch what he does AFTER that.....and they mention Jarvis Jones not wrapping him up....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHq1-5FiAZM

[crazymad]

Originally Posted by NATI BENGALS

BJGE isn't going anywhere. We will be upgrading at HB and we will be keeping the best one currently on our team. Drafting Lacy doesn't mean cutting BJGE. I think he was signed to be a short yardage and goal line specialist and a big part of a committee. Injuries made him a bigger part of the plan.

You are entitled to your own opinion. But a career average of 7ypc playing in the SEC aint no joke. Sure he has a good OL. But they are not the ones making people miss in the backfield and breaking tackles. He did plenty on his own.

not a good o line, a great one, quite possibly the best college line ever put together, probably 2 1st rounders this year and a 2nd/3rd rounder, and a probably a 1st rounder next year. its just my opinion, i'm not trying to get people fired up, i just think he's overrated, he's no corey dillon, or trent richardson or even mark ingram, and his constant nagging injuries are a big time red flag to me

[NATI BENGALS]

Originally Posted by crazymad

not a good o line, a great one, quite possibly the best college line ever put together, probably 2 1st rounders this year and a 2nd/3rd rounder, and a probably a 1st rounder next year. its just my opinion, i'm not trying to get people fired up, i just think he's overrated, he's no corey dillon, or trent richardson or even mark ingram, and his constant nagging injuries are a big time red flag to me

Injuries are a fact of life for HBs. Playing through the nagging injuries, as he has, shows toughness and a willingness to do what is necessary at the next level.

I'm not denying Bama had an epic OL. But unless they gave him special powers they were not directly responsible for him running through, over, or around the defenders he consistently beat and punished in the open field.

He is a big HB that runs angry and has the ability to make people miss. I like that combo.

[crazymad]

Originally Posted by NATI BENGALS

Injuries are a fact of life for HBs. Playing through the nagging injuries, as he has, shows toughness and a willingness to do what is necessary at the next level.

I'm not denying Bama had an epic OL. But unless they gave him special powers they were not directly responsible for him running through, over, or around the defenders he consistently beat and punished in the open field.

He is a big HB that runs angry and has the ability to make people miss. I like that combo.

i dont deny he has some ability, and i saw a bunch of bama games, i just dont think he's worth our first rounder, at 2b.......... then sure. i just dont buy into him for different reasons

[Lolli]

Originally Posted by spazz70

Did not see this article posted...specific to Lacy becoming a Bengal...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...engals-offense

I would be ok with it. I would like to see his 10 yd and 40 yd splits along with short shuttles and 3 cone numbers.

[spazz70]

Originally Posted by crazymad

not a good o line, a great one, quite possibly the best college line ever put together, probably 2 1st rounders this year and a 2nd/3rd rounder, and a probably a 1st rounder next year. its just my opinion, i'm not trying to get people fired up, i just think he's overrated, he's no corey dillon, or trent richardson or even mark ingram, and his constant nagging injuries are a big time red flag to me

Hey...to each his own....Chris Perry never missed a game in college....how did that go on the injury front?

Our OL opened some big holes this year...a lot of big holes....and a big time RB would have made the other team pay more than BJGE did...the problem is that a 4th round RB/change of pace/speedster is not going to see those holes....he will not start ahead of BJGE and see as many carries....a kid like Lacy would be our starter with BJGE the 3rd down/goal line for at least a year....

Crazymad....did you vote in the time machine poll? if you did then for who??....odds are Corey Dillon....here is a guy in Lacy that could be that guy....I would be willing to bet that Lacy has the best rookie season next year of any back drafted.....

[yellowxdiscipline]

Gio looks more impressive with a lesser talented Oline.. Just sayin.