Do you think we could get a complete coaching staff from the ranks of this msg board?

[D.Boon]

Originally Posted by bfine32

I volunteer to be the Ben-Gals talent evaluator. I gotta do better than whoever is currently doing it.

You get what you pay for...I believe they are unpaid volunteers.

[Since82]

Originally Posted by fortyyearfan

Speaking of coaching, the cleveland browns just became legit by hiring top coaches to get over the hump.They hired Michael Lombardi as GM. He is top shelf type of guy.Norv Turner as OC,Ray Horton as DC.The Browns will be a force to deal with in the AFCN starting this year.Don't be surprised if they challenge for the title either this year or next.It all starts from the top and they are putting together this franchise the right way by hiring some of the best.Our division just got harder to compete in.All of us know the stoolers will bounce back, the dirty birds are a top shelf run organization and will be in the hunt every year regardless if ray lewis is there or not.They will probably make him some kind of coach for their team,its coming, believe it.I feel we are lacking the right coaching tree to get anything done in going forward and reaching the big goal of the SUPER BOWL.Its just never going to happen here in the nati until this franchise gets with the 21st century.Doesn't seem to matter who we draft or who is who, we never get ANYWHERE where we need to go.Just watch the brownies in the draft, they know what they need and want now with Mr. Lombardi at the helm.He will get it done.

Lombardi was a disaster with the Browns the first time around, helped Al Davis draft the Raiders into oblivion in the early 2000's, and has sat behind a desk since 2007. Plus most Browns fans HATE him with a passion for letting Kozar go. He has a lot of work to do in Cleveland in a ton of areas.

On the other hand, I do think they have hit the jackpot with Turner and Horton.

[Fan_in_Kettering]

Originally Posted by fortyyearfan

Speaking of coaching, the cleveland browns just became legit by hiring top coaches to get over the hump.They hired Michael Lombardi as GM.

This is the closest the Browns will ever come to having a Lombardi.

[wolfkaosaun]

Here's another good question, which board members (that actually put their name in) would be in which coaching position?

IE: Defensive backs coach, strength coach, assistant coach, etc.

[coachmcneil71]

Originally Posted by Fan_in_Kettering

Um, you realize the poster uses the name Dave_Shula actually is Dave Shula? Look, uh, I'm going to be honest here: I think it's cool as crap that a former Bengal head coach -- and the son of coaching legend Don Shula -- is posting on this message board. While we all know the Bengals' record under Coach Shula was not what anyone wanted it to be, I think some respect is due to Coach Shula on this site. Have any of us ever been an NFL head coach? No. Have any of us experience real pressure on the sideline? No. Is anyone else on here the son or even a sibling of a coaching legend? No.

Coach Shula doesn't post on here very much because some of the comments aimed at him are really below the belt -- although SavageHenry54 was just joking in good taste -- but I wish Coach Shula would post more. I would say Coach Shula knows more about football than all of us on this message board combined and if people here would stop with the cheap shots, I think he would post more and we could learn a lot from him. It's not every day regular fans like us have access to a former head coach's mind and I think we need to encourage him to talk.

Let's learn from someone who has been there and from someone whose father was among the best coaches in NFL history. Coach Shula can teach us things we need to know to become better students of the game as well as better fans of our Cincinnati Bengals.

C'mon, Coach! Talk to us.

Really cool! Either way coaches response was the epitome of irony (even if a painful one) and just plain humorous as well as truthful.
Tough job with long hours to coach any team let alone a pro team.

Originally Posted by Ron Mexico

I will never again believe that an online person is who they say they are. If this is really Dave Shula,...I'm going to need some hard facts!

Mexico always on here beggin for something hard......

[GingerHeadMan]

A complete coaching staff absolutely not. Coach Shula as mentioned before, if it is him, which it seems it truly is, could be a head coach, but not a great one. But there are 32 positions in the WORLD for head coach of a REAL football team (at a professional level, not college, not canada etc). I think some of the people here could make VERY solid contributions to the team, and bring alot of fresh ideas and perspective, but let's face it, the average fan knows something close to 10% (being generous) of what an NFL head coach does, at least one who is good at his job. I am sure maybe even a couple people here could be position coaches, i'm sure there have been some people here who have coached at a high school or collegiate level and could help, but likely not do any better than the current coaches.

[fredtoast]

I played for a small high school that didn't have very good coaches (Franklin). We watched game films, but I never realized how much I was missing until I went to college.

I also played at a small college, but I played for a legendary coach (Ken Sparks) and staff who made the playoffs every year and won multiple National Championships. I'll never forget the first film session where our coach pointed out that a long pass completed down the left sideline was the result of the CB on the right side of the field originally lining up with outside leverage on the receiver instead of inside leverage. So the fact that a player on the opposite side of the field lined up about 24 inches out of position lead to the deep pass completion. It blew my mind how really complex football was, and that was just at the small college level. I can't evn imagine the way NFL coaches think. People who call it a "chess match" are not exaggerating. It is complicated beyond our imaginations.

[Dalton's_Gang]

Originally Posted by Go Cards

We are all back seat.....I mean HD-TV recliner coaches.

The best in the business and legends in our own minds as well.

So yes, believe so.

Heck, my fantasy team finished third. What more do you want.

but you didnt win the top spot.... you're fired.

[oldschoolomen]

Originally Posted by wolfkaosaun

Here's another good question, which board members (that actually put their name in) would be in which coaching position?

IE: Defensive backs coach, strength coach, assistant coach, etc.

I'll volunteer to coach receivers. I am fairly confident that I could get AJ Green to produce at a very high level.



I could also get the same production out of Tate that we've seen the past two seasons.

[McC]

Originally Posted by D.Boon

You get what you pay for...I believe they are unpaid volunteers.

I poured a bunch of concrete for a young woman who had tried out for the BenGals four years in a row and never made it. She would have been the hottest BenGal ever. Never saw her dance, but she said she had been dancing her whole life and her sister said she could dance circles around the other girls. So, apparently, hotness is not the determining factor.

[McC]

I don't doubt that there are plenty of people here with the intelligence for any job on a coaching staff. It really comes down to being in the biz and having the right background, something probably very few of us have.

[XenoMorph]

Quality Control Coach here.

[Captain Happy Pants]

Sandusky?

[kevin]

Originally Posted by GingerHeadMan

A complete coaching staff absolutely not. Coach Shula as mentioned before, if it is him, which it seems it truly is, could be a head coach, but not a great one. But there are 32 positions in the WORLD for head coach of a REAL football team (at a professional level, not college, not canada etc). I think some of the people here could make VERY solid contributions to the team, and bring alot of fresh ideas and perspective, but let's face it, the average fan knows something close to 10% (being generous) of what an NFL head coach does, at least one who is good at his job. I am sure maybe even a couple people here could be position coaches, i'm sure there have been some people here who have coached at a high school or collegiate level and could help, but likely not do any better than the current coaches.

I'm not sure if Shula ever posted on this thing.....but lets say he has or had......Those were awful years.....Now if we had Paul Brown and Don Shula, that would have been great.....but we had their sons Mike Brown and Dave Shula instead....the success of the fathers did not pass down to the sons, the apple falling too far from the trees. ....( so even with him you don't get a coaching staff off of these boards ).

We should all stay in the arm chairs and sofas, second guessing is easier than actually coaching.

[Jabberwocky]

Originally Posted by Karp

Any volunteers? Any nominees? We seem to have some pretty sharp fellas in here. Just ask them, they'll tell ya.

I've been an OC at the High School level. I've also coached RB's at a D-3 school. Give me Jay Gruden's playbook and remove the handcuffs from the head coach so I can be as aggressive as the offense should be and I might win.

One quarter. Of a quarter.

The NFL is a professional league. Those guys get paid a ginormous amount of money for a reason. I could spend as much time as John Gruden used to spend at the office and find 1/10th of the things the Offensive Quality Control assistant (if there is one for the Bengals) finds.

I just want Marvin to coach to win instead of coaching not to lose.

[jack1953]

What do you mean, I think we have the finest couch coaches in the NFL!!!

[fortyyearfan]

Originally Posted by SunsetBengal

Hmm, sounds like someone here is a closet Browns fan.

I have hated the brownies my whole adult life and still do. you are a turd.I am just stating a fact. I do keep an eye on what our division is doing and I KNOW that with the proper coaching and fixing their qb problem,the brownies will be very tough. They already have a good defense and their offense is just a couple players away, plus like any other team in the nfl, they are tired of sucking hind tit.After awhile you do get better and all i am saying is they are a team on the rise, with the new owner and all the right moves they are making. do not be surprised if they win 9 games this year and by the following season, they will probably be for real.Our division will be lights out tougher to win.AND THATS A FACT, JACK!!!

[wolfkaosaun]

Originally Posted by oldschoolomen

I'll volunteer to coach receivers. I am fairly confident that I could get AJ Green to produce at a very high level.



I could also get the same production out of Tate that we've seen the past two seasons.

Or you could just cut him, and we get better production at his position

Originally Posted by McC

I don't doubt that there are plenty of people here with the intelligence for any job on a coaching staff. It really comes down to being in the biz and having the right background, something probably very few of us have.

Very true. But then again, the only way one can get that background is with experience. So if there was ever a coaching chance that came near me, I'd pounce all over it.

[Stewy]

Originally Posted by Karp

Any volunteers? Any nominees? We seem to have some pretty sharp fellas in here. Just ask them, they'll tell ya.

Sure you could put together a coaching staff. The team would fail miserably, but you could put a staff together.

[sixxfan26]

Anyone here could coach at any position because everyone here knows everything there is to know about football. Period.

[McC]

Originally Posted by wolfkaosaun

Or you could just cut him, and we get better production at his position



Very true. But then again, the only way one can get that background is with experience. So if there was ever a coaching chance that came near me, I'd pounce all over it.

People start as interns or unpaid volunteers and slowly work their way up while they work like dogs, study their ***** off and learn, learn, learn or start out coaching 5th graders and working up the food chain that way. You have to really want it to survive the process. It ain't a hobby, it's a burning desire.

[NASBengalfan]

I would like some sort of job in there as a motivator of sorts. I think I'd be good at it and I wouldn't ask for pay. Money is stupid; I'd get to hang out with some of my favorite people and possibly influence their play.

[Shake n Blake]

Originally Posted by NASBengalfan

I would like some sort of job in there as a motivator of sorts. I think I'd be good at it and I wouldn't ask for pay. Money is stupid; I'd get to hang out with some of my favorite people and possibly influence their play.