L.A. Bengals...Haters Win!

[EyeOfTheTiger]

I like this idea a lot. I think the only way the Bengals win is in a place outside of Cincinnati for 2 reasons:

1) The small market - In LA, the Bengals will have MUCH more moeny rolling in. Not as far as rosters and salary caps. Not that way. But as far as income. However much their profit is in Cincy, it will be MUCH higher in LA. More people. More sales. More TV stations. More advertising. More corporations to buy club seats. The Bengals will have MUCH MUCH more income. This will make them competitive by things like having more money to spend on scouts, trainers, medical professionals, personnel office, etc. Not to mention that LA would be a much bigger draw for FAs and coaches than Cincy would.

2) The ONLY way for Mike Brown and Co to leave the team. LA won't put up with Brown's miserly ways. He would be out on his butt in a second. He either has to step down or change his ways. Either way, that is the best and only way the Bengals become successful.

Los Angeles Bengals! Los Angeles Tigers! Portland Tigers! Toronto Tigers!

Whatever the name - its the TEAM I support. Not the city...

[Shake n Blake]

Originally Posted by pdub2005

I'm not sure if Cincinnati would get another team... Its the 28th largest market in the United States so its not out of the realm of possibility, but their are other options for the NFL. I know Goddell's ultimate goal is to make this league popular world wide, and Toronto wants a team. Toronto has 5.5 million people in its metro area and 2.6 million in the city alone! Thats more than enough of a market to put an NFL franchise in.

At some point the NFL will expand. When it does, they will likely add 2 teams to keep the league even, like in 95' when they added the Panthers and Jags. If the Bengals went to LA, you don't think this city has shown enough to get one of those two expansion franchises? We had a 57 game sellout streak recently, so the potential is there, the city just got tired of Mike Brown.

Also, we have a nice newer stadium. Not many cities can claim that. If Toronto gets any team, it's going to be the Bills. Toronto is only 80 miles from Buffalo. If they put a team in Toronto, attendance for Bills games would decrease further, and they would have to move the Bills.

[McC]

Originally Posted by EyeOfTheTiger

I like this idea a lot. I think the only way the Bengals win is in a place outside of Cincinnati for 2 reasons:

1) The small market - In LA, the Bengals will have MUCH more moeny rolling in. Not as far as rosters and salary caps. Not that way. But as far as income. However much their profit is in Cincy, it will be MUCH higher in LA. More people. More sales. More TV stations. More advertising. More corporations to buy club seats. The Bengals will have MUCH MUCH more income. This will make them competitive by things like having more money to spend on scouts, trainers, medical professionals, personnel office, etc. Not to mention that LA would be a much bigger draw for FAs and coaches than Cincy would.

2) The ONLY way for Mike Brown and Co to leave the team. LA won't put up with Brown's miserly ways. He would be out on his butt in a second. He either has to step down or change his ways. Either way, that is the best and only way the Bengals become successful.

Los Angeles Bengals! Los Angeles Tigers! Portland Tigers! Toronto Tigers!

Whatever the name - its the TEAM I support. Not the city...

1) Do you not think MB already has/keeps making enough money to hire GM's, scouts, buy Gatorade, Coke and deodorant, spend money on GOOD FA's and whatever else winning teams do? Has nothing to do with not having it. Not willing to spend it, that's the problem.

Also, winning creates a lot more revenue too. How vehemently has Mike been pursuing that?

2) How many people in St. Louis do you think are Cardinals fans? Or Colts fans in Baltimore?

[BengaliJack]

Mike can't move the team to LA...he was banned from Cali in 1987 when he was arrested for streaking down Crenshaw while high on Angel dust with his then girlfiriend Phyllis Diller. Mike denies the incident and made it "dissappear" from the books with a few benjamins. Unfortunately for Mike, during his freedom run he verbally insulted Harvey "Crybaby" Thomas (the Seargent at arms for the local Blood chapter) with racial slurs. Crybaby has sworn to avenge justice on Mike should he ever set a foot back in LA and Mike has managed to stay on the East side of the country every since. This story was based on a lie to waste some time.

[Bengal Greg]

Here we go again!
Everytime the Bengals fail to sell out and the fans begin to talk about walking and doing something else on Sundays, the Browns get someone to post something this stupid on this board.
Well, Mr. Brown, go ahead and take your sorry team to anywhere, USA and see if you can find other stupid fans who will put up with your poor management for over 20 years! I don't think you will find any more loyal fans than what you have right here! And I know you know that!

[RumbleCat]

Originally Posted by BengaliJack

Mike can't move the team to LA...he was banned from Cali in 1987 when he was arrested for streaking down Crenshaw while high on Angel dust with his then girlfiriend Phyllis Diller. Mike denies the incident and made it "dissappear" from the books with a few benjamins. Unfortunately for Mike, during his freedom run he verbally insulted Harvey "Crybaby" Thomas (the Seargent at arms for the local Blood chapter) with racial slurs. Crybaby has sworn to avenge justice on Mike should he ever set a foot back in LA and Mike has managed to stay on the East side of the country every since. This story was based on a lie to waste some time.

Wait a second.........I was living with Phyllis Diller in 1987. Oh, heads are gonna' roll now!

[voyager6]

Originally Posted by Who Dey Time

Anyone who thinks the "LA Bengals" is even a remote possibility is up there with some of the dumbest people that ruin this board.

The Paul Brown Stadium lease goes to 2025. There will be major lawsuits if Brown tries to move before then. If you recall, when Hamilton County tried to get the Bengals to make some concessions to the lease, the Bengals counters with a length reduciton to 2017.

If you do the math, Mike Brown would be 82 in 2017. That is the same age as Paul Brown died. I think he wanted to retire and sell the team in 2017 and I am sure that if AEG still hasn't found a team to move to LA, they will pay whatever the Brown family asks.

Remember, AEG tried to buy a part of the Bengals from the estate of Arthur Knowlton, who held a reported 20 percent. Mike and family had to cough up a lot of cash to keep AEG out. Of course the original deal had a clause that allowed the Browns to have first dibs on the shares and at perhaps a less than market value price.

I assure you that if AEG got the 20 percent shares, they would be actively prodding the Brown family on every decision to make them more ameniable to move the team or sell it outright.

So by buying those shares, the Browns did keep the Bengals in Cincinnati... for now.

[Lygraf]

Originally Posted by voyager6

If you do the math, Mike Brown would be 82 in 2017.

he's that young?

[Bengal4ever68]

I'd like it if Brown moved & started a new team. Just as long as we keep our team here and have a new owner that wants to win...I see the Browns new owner is going to turn that organization around to be a legit contender in years to come...So if Mikey don't actually try then he better be prepared to finish last in division year after year.

[bengalfan74]

Originally Posted by BengalRugby

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.


The problem isn't the fans, it's the product being put out on the field. Suppose you're paying the price of steak, and got to dinner and settle in for a nice rib-eye steak. But instead they consistently serve you cow pies, how many times would you return to the restaurant/stadium?

Mike Brown is a big part of the problem, but so is the coaching staff. The end result is cow pies at the price of steak.


It is surprising the stadium is even half full these days. That said, no one wants the Bengals to leave town.

Couldn't agree more Rugby !

In the 90's we were flat out gawd awful ! In the 00's we've been one step forward and two steps back ! People are sick and tired of this wal-mart team, they've ventured out to the mall.

[Storm]

Originally Posted by victor24

It's a possibility that Mr. Mike Brown may consider moving his organization to L.A.

Sounds like a good fit, LA fans do not care about football

[EyeOfTheTiger]

Originally Posted by McC

1) Do you not think MB already has/keeps making enough money to hire GM's, scouts, buy Gatorade, Coke and deodorant, spend money on GOOD FA's and whatever else winning teams do? Has nothing to do with not having it. Not willing to spend it, that's the problem.

Also, winning creates a lot more revenue too. How vehemently has Mike been pursuing that?

2) How many people in St. Louis do you think are Cardinals fans? Or Colts fans in Baltimore?

1) Say the Bengals currently make profit of $100 in Cincy after paying for stuff like salaries, overhead, etc. Now say the Bengals make a profit of $1000 in LA. If MB spends 10% of his profit on making the team better - better physicians, more scouts, indoor bubble, etc, that would be $10 in the first scenario and $100 in the 2nd. So, even with a cheap Mike Brown, more profit means he can afford a little more to spend on the team.

2) The question of moving presupposes that Cincy loses its team. A lot of fans cheer for a team because its their city. There are fans that support the TEAM, though, and not the city. So, you're right, the city of Cincinnati would never see an NFL team and would probably forever hate the Bengals. But, a new generation of fans in LA would get a team. A team that most likely has new ownership.

[fumetti]

How desperate would a team have to be to invite a passionate loser?!? Well, it's an NFL team. So yeah, just about any city. (Mikey won't live forever.)

Originally Posted by EyeOfTheTiger

LA won't put up with Brown's miserly ways.

But what could they do about it? Other than leave the stadium empty--which would affect the team's books--there's NOTHING that can be done.

When the Bengals were at their lowest, losing 11-13 games almost every year, the commish came to Cincy and declared everything FINE! (Because the books were good.)

Originally Posted by EyeOfTheTiger

He would be out on his butt in a second. He either has to step down or change his ways.

Is there any way Mikey goes to another city and takes a worse stadium deal than he has right now? I don't think so.

Mikey managed to snooker Cincy into paying HIM if the games didn't sell out. I imagine L.A. would have to at least match that (or something of equal value to him).

My advice to America:
1. Mikey signs no contract where he isn't in complete control.
2. If you think you can force Mikey to stop losing, you can't...because of #1.

[EyeOfTheTiger]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1347733.html

Just look at what is happening to the county to finance the Bengals. Hospitals sold. Jails shut. Government employees let go, others not getting any raises.

And that was in 2011! The county is going to be in even bigger debt. All for what? A loser owner that only brings this county heartache? Get your priorities straight! This is a game. Schools, jobs, hospitals - those should be the priorities.

[Monster]

Originally Posted by EyeOfTheTiger

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1347733.html

Just look at what is happening to the county to finance the Bengals. Hospitals sold. Jails shut. Government employees let go, others not getting any raises.

And that was in 2011! The county is going to be in even bigger debt. All for what? A loser owner that only brings this county heartache? Get your priorities straight! This is a game. Schools, jobs, hospitals - those should be the priorities.

In all honesty if the county couldn't have afforded to keep the Bengals then it shouldn't have. Priorities should have been set, but it is their own fault.

[fumetti]

Originally Posted by Monster

In all honesty if the county couldn't have afforded to keep the Bengals then it shouldn't have. Priorities should have been set, but it is their own fault.

Oh, the city gov't's priorities were clear!

Lose the Bengals and you lose your seats! (#1 rule of politics: stay in office.)