Why some people should not have guns.

[RhythmicGeek]

Originally Posted by ICKYSHUFFLE

I wasn't referring to the Military classification of it, I was referring to the actual definition.
The military classifies them different as the way they use them but they are functionally the same and many are handheld.

Yet you quoted my post as if you were trying to refute what I said. Then the link you posted showed my statement was accurate.

[ICKYSHUFFLE]

Originally Posted by Wingnut

Exactly!

And is it not capable of Full Auto fire? Thus falling under the definition of a MACHINE GUN!!!!!!

[ICKYSHUFFLE]

Originally Posted by RhythmicGeek

Yet you quoted my post as if you were trying to refute what I said. Then the link you posted showed my statement was accurate.

I quoted your post to show another person saying the same, not to refute what you were saying.
I agree with what you were saying.

[RhythmicGeek]

Originally Posted by Wingnut

Let's pretend I'm from Missouri.

Show me where the military states the AR-15 isn't an assualt rifle.

The DIA has defined an assault rifle as being select fire. This was stated in Small Arms Identification and Operation Guide.

[Wingnut]

Originally Posted by RhythmicGeek

The DIA has defined an assault rifle as being select fire. This was stated in Small Arms Identification and Operation Guide.

The DIA is a part of the Department of Defense, but not a part of the military any more than the Defense Security Service. It is combat support agency and a member of the US Intelligence Community.

It is not a branch of the military. Show me where the military says the AR-15 isn't an assault rifle.

How does the DIA define "select fire"?

[RhythmicGeek]

Originally Posted by Wingnut

The DIA is a part of the Department of Defense, but not a part of the military any more than the Defense Security Service. It is combat support agency and a member of the US Intelligence Community.

It is not a branch of the military. Show me where the military says the AR-15 isn't an assault rifle.

How does the DIA define "select fire"?

Now you're just arguing semantics. The DIA is a part of the DOD, which makes it a military organization. That's why their website has a .mil designation, that's why the director is a general officer.

I don't know where the definition for selective fire would be, but my guess it would have to do with the option to switch between modes of fire.

[Wingnut]

Originally Posted by ICKYSHUFFLE

And is it not capable of Full Auto fire Thus falling under the definition of a MACHINE GUN!!!!!!

A carbine rifle not capable of full auto falls under the definition of a machine gun??????

My god you've confused yourself.

Since Wikipedia is your go to source, let's see what Wiki has to say about RIFLES...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifle

Formerly, rifles only fired a single projectile with each squeeze of the trigger.

Modern rifles are capable of firing more than one round per trigger squeeze; some fire in a fully automatic mode

and others are limited to fixed bursts of two, three, or more rounds per squeeze. Thus, modern automatic rifles overlap to an extent in design and function with machine guns. In fact, many light machine guns (such as the Russian RPK) are adaptations of existing automatic rifle designs. Generally,

the difference between an automatic rifle and a machine gun comes down to weight and feed system;

rifles, with their relatively light components (which overheat quickly) and small magazines, are incapable of sustained automatic fire in the way that machine guns are.

Modern military rifles are fed by box magazines, while machine guns are generally (but not always) belt-fed.

While machine guns are often crewed by more than one soldier, the rifle is an individual weapon.

A carbine is a rifle. A rifle is not a machine gun even if it is an automatic carbine/rifle.

[ICKYSHUFFLE]

Originally Posted by Wingnut

A carbine rifle not capable of full auto falls under the definition of a machine gun??????

My god you've confused yourself.

Since Wikipedia is your go to source, let's see what Wiki has to say about RIFLES...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifle



A carbine is a rifle. A rifle is not a machine gun even if it is an automatic carbine/rifle.

The It's not capable of full auto fire part was meant to be a question. The ? was accidentally left out.

[Wingnut]

Originally Posted by ICKYSHUFFLE

The It's not capable of full auto fire part was meant to be a question. The ? was accidentally left out.

Oh, okay.

I've already preemptively shushed that question in the post you just quoted.