Seriously Viable FAs we should take a shot at

[THE PISTONS]

With the Nfl shifting to a more offensive league...we need to start putting more resources into that side. Keep our current free agents...but it doesn't make much sense to dump a ton of money into defensive free agents when the rules hinder them.

[Luvnit2]

Originally Posted by THE PISTONS

I like Kruger but he's more suited as an olb in a 3-4. He could work in a 4-3 but it would depend heavily on the other lb skillsets.

It would be awesome to add his pass rushing skill set!

Baltimore is not a straight 3-4 defensive team. They play about 65% 3-4 and 35% 4-3 and Kruger never leaves the field.

[McC]

Originally Posted by THE PISTONS

With the Nfl shifting to a more offensive league...we need to start putting more resources into that side. Keep our current free agents...but it doesn't make much sense to dump a ton of money into defensive free agents when the rules hinder them.

Yes, but they haven't outlawed defense altogether, so you still have to send guys out there. Upgrades are always needed on both sides of the ball.

The confounding thing about our situation is that last year's needs are pretty much this years needs too.

[GingerHeadMan]

Originally Posted by OSUfan

The following are players that I believe could help this team and some combination of them I feel would be workable by this franchise.

1) Brian Hartline WR Miami

2) DeAndre Levy LB Detroit....plays the weakside for Detroit however was strongside LB while at Wisconsin.

3) Justin Durant LB Detroit.....plays the strongside for Detroit. Would fill the void we have when Lawson is on the field.

4) Nick Roach LB Chicago....would be an instant upgrade at the strongside for this franchise.

5) Antoine Cason CB San Diego...enough with the old end of their career DBs.

6) Chris Clemons S Miami

7) Derek Cox CB Jacksonville.....Would love to have this kids size (6'1" 195) in our division. Not too mention he ran a 4.39 - 40.

8) Bradley Fletcher CB St. Louis

9) Sean Smith CB Miami

Not sure about everyone else but I would be thrilled to get one of these LBs....preferrably Levy who is only 25 and one of these big, physical, young corners.

1) Brian Hartline WR Miami
--- No thanks, I'd like a REAL solution to the #2 WR problem. Hawkins is a clear cut #3 slot receiver

2)DeAndre Levy LB Detroit....plays the weakside for Detroit however was strongside LB while at Wisconsin.
--- No thanks again, I love the coaching staff's ability to draft LB's... Burfict and Howard fill 2 spots, perhaps Mauluga to WLB or a rookie!

3.) Justin Durant LB Detroit.....plays the strongside for Detroit. Would fill the void we have when Lawson is on the field.
--- Once again no thanks, detroits offense was superior, but what about their defense made you think they were in any way good?

4.) Nick Roach LB Chicago....would be an instant upgrade at the strongside for this franchise.
--- Perhaps, I like him!

5.) Antoine Cason CB San Diego...enough with the old end of their career DBs.
--- Wouldn't mind having him instead of pacman jones

6.) Chris Clemons S Miami
--- Sure as a backup

7.) Derek Cox CB Jacksonville.....Would love to have this kids size (6'1" 195) in our division. Not too mention he ran a 4.39 - 40.
--- At the right price sure

8.) Bradley Fletcher CB St. Louis
--- no thanks, nothing about st louis's defense says elite....

9.) Sean Smith CB Miami
--- How many CB's do we need? :-D

[OSU725]

[quote=GingerHeadMan;2785158]1) Brian Hartline WR Miami
--- No thanks, I'd like a REAL solution to the #2 WR problem. Hawkins is a clear cut #3 slot receiver

What about Hartline makes you not think he would be. A great #2. He had a great year after while bing the only weapon in Miami. He was a very versatile player that plays all over the filed.

2)DeAndre Levy LB Detroit....plays the weakside for Detroit however was strongside LB while at Wisconsin.
--- No thanks again, I love the coaching staff's ability to draft LB's... Burfict and Howard fill 2 spots, perhaps Mauluga to WLB or a rookie!

This comment really hurts your case. You are impressed with the teams ability to draft LBs, so far Marvin has yet to be able to draft a quality LB. Thurman lasted a year and was a criminal, Rivers was given up on and traded, and Rey stinks.

3.) Justin Durant LB Detroit.....plays the strongside for Detroit. Would fill the void we have when Lawson is on the field.
--- Once again no thanks, detroits offense was superior, but what about their defense made you think they were in any way good?

Stupid comment just because a defense is bad does not mean it does not have quality players.

4.) Nick Roach LB Chicago....would be an instant upgrade at the strongside for this franchise.
--- Perhaps, I like him!

5.) Antoine Cason CB San Diego...enough with the old end of their career DBs.
--- Wouldn't mind having him instead of pacman jones

6.) Chris Clemons S Miami
--- Sure as a backup

7.) Derek Cox CB Jacksonville.....Would love to have this kids size (6'1" 195) in our division. Not too mention he ran a 4.39 - 40.
--- At the right price sure

8.) Bradley Fletcher CB St. Louis
--- no thanks, nothing about st louis's defense says elite....
See above. Your right if James L wanted to come play MLB here they should pass because the defense stinks.

9.) Sean Smith CB Miami
--- How many CB's do we need? :-D

We currently have a handful of CB with their AARP cards and a handful of,young guys that have been injured and shown nothing on the field.

[Sideline Tweeting 101]

I would like to see them attempt to sign the following:

Reggie Bush RB MIA
Brian Hartline WR MIA
Jairus Byrd S BUF
Dwayne Bowe WR KC

A more realistic list of people they may look at would be:

Javon Ringer RB TN
Rashad Jennings RB JAX
Joique Bell RB DET
Domenik Hixon WR NYG
Mike Simms Walker FA
DRC CB PHILY
Kenny Phillips S NYG

Combining the two lists I would like acquisitions to look like this:

Brian Hartline WR MIA
Javon Ringer RB TN
Kenny Phillips S NYG
Trade for Derrelle Revis

Now the draft is wide open and can be used to add depth to the OL and fix the LB corps.

[OSUfan]

Originally Posted by GingerHeadMan

1) Brian Hartline WR Miami
--- No thanks, I'd like a REAL solution to the #2 WR problem. Hawkins is a clear cut #3 slot receiver

Hartline has produced in virtually any position on the field. Over 1000 yards receiving as their only real receiving threat.

2)DeAndre Levy LB Detroit....plays the weakside for Detroit however was strongside LB while at Wisconsin.
--- No thanks again, I love the coaching staff's ability to draft LB's... Burfict and Howard fill 2 spots, perhaps Mauluga to WLB or a rookie!

You do realize that a WLB has to cover and you want Rey there? You are saying we will have Howard back yet you state to have Rey play WLB. Please point to are standout drafted LBs.

3.) Justin Durant LB Detroit.....plays the strongside for Detroit. Would fill the void we have when Lawson is on the field.
--- Once again no thanks, detroits offense was superior, but what about their defense made you think they were in any way good?

Their defensive stats do not define a single player. Pretty obvious to most. He was a bright spot for their defensive unfortunately he can only play one position at a time.

4.) Nick Roach LB Chicago....would be an instant upgrade at the strongside for this franchise.
--- Perhaps, I like him!

Why because he had a better cast around him than Durant and Levy?

5.) Antoine Cason CB San Diego...enough with the old end of their career DBs.
--- Wouldn't mind having him instead of pacman jones

Would rather see them both.

6.) Chris Clemons S Miami
--- Sure as a backup

So you are stating that Clements, Mays, Crocker, Miles, and Iloka are better than him. You do not have to answer that and incriminate yourself further.

7.) Derek Cox CB Jacksonville.....Would love to have this kids size (6'1" 195) in our division. Not too mention he ran a 4.39 - 40.
--- At the right price sure

So we should improve the team only not spend money to do it correct?

8.) Bradley Fletcher CB St. Louis
--- no thanks, nothing about st louis's defense says elite....

Again.....watch a player and not a defensive unit. A single player is not accountable for an entire defensive failure.

9.) Sean Smith CB Miami
--- How many CB's do we need? :-D

Did you really think I meant to acquire all of the listed players? Please say you did not. Smith would be an upgrade to our defensive unit as opposed to a Chris Lewis-Harris or a Taveon Rogers that was a WR until camp last season. Personally, feel he could be an upgrade over Newman and Jones as well. But I guess you feel more comfortable with maybe a guy like Ghee or Allen that can not get on the field?

[StLucieBengal]

Why do peeps think these guys are going to come and be second fiddle.

Hartline isn't leaving Miami, he is their only weapon in the passing game.

The CB who are starters for their teams....Why are they coming here to backup Leon and Dre? Say what you want about Dre and being injured, but make no mistake he will be a starter. Spot Vet guys will come here rather than a front line guy. And im sure someone will offer DRC a lot to be a starter.

I would like to see a Vet WR, but for every vet we have there is slows the progress of the young guys even more. plus our track record is well........... not lucky.

honestly I am not sure where they go in FA. Sign our guys and maybe make a run at a RFA. but that's a dicey deal as well Just not real confident in FA. But I am sure we will target a few guys

[GingerHeadMan]

[quote=OSU725;2785314]

Originally Posted by GingerHeadMan

1) Brian Hartline WR Miami
--- No thanks, I'd like a REAL solution to the #2 WR problem. Hawkins is a clear cut #3 slot receiver

What about Hartline makes you not think he would be. A great #2. He had a great year after while bing the only weapon in Miami. He was a very versatile player that plays all over the filed.

2)DeAndre Levy LB Detroit....plays the weakside for Detroit however was strongside LB while at Wisconsin.
--- No thanks again, I love the coaching staff's ability to draft LB's... Burfict and Howard fill 2 spots, perhaps Mauluga to WLB or a rookie!

This comment really hurts your case. You are impressed with the teams ability to draft LBs, so far Marvin has yet to be able to draft a quality LB. Thurman lasted a year and was a criminal, Rivers was given up on and traded, and Rey stinks.

3.) Justin Durant LB Detroit.....plays the strongside for Detroit. Would fill the void we have when Lawson is on the field.
--- Once again no thanks, detroits offense was superior, but what about their defense made you think they were in any way good?

Stupid comment just because a defense is bad does not mean it does not have quality players.

4.) Nick Roach LB Chicago....would be an instant upgrade at the strongside for this franchise.
--- Perhaps, I like him!

5.) Antoine Cason CB San Diego...enough with the old end of their career DBs.
--- Wouldn't mind having him instead of pacman jones

6.) Chris Clemons S Miami
--- Sure as a backup

7.) Derek Cox CB Jacksonville.....Would love to have this kids size (6'1" 195) in our division. Not too mention he ran a 4.39 - 40.
--- At the right price sure

8.) Bradley Fletcher CB St. Louis
--- no thanks, nothing about st louis's defense says elite....
See above. Your right if James L wanted to come play MLB here they should pass because the defense stinks.

9.) Sean Smith CB Miami
--- How many CB's do we need? :-D

We currently have a handful of CB with their AARP cards and a handful of,young guys that have been injured and shown nothing on the field.

You do know its ok to have differant opinions without giving someone neg rep for it? I didnt insult you, perhaps you should consider being a little more forgiving for those who think diff than you! Just saying :P

[hacker]

Originally Posted by OSUfan

I think our LB situation is easily correctable.

1) Move Burfict to the middle where he should be.

2) Re-sign Thomas Howard and work him on the strongside. He should have zero problem with the transition.

3) Guenther starts working right now with Taylor Mays teaching him to play WLB. They are wasting the gifts this kid has. His coverage problems lie in covering WRs in space. He has shown he can shut down TEs and backs. He is very good supporting the run and attacking it at the line of scrimmage. I guess a concern would be shedding blockers but that is a concern with many LBs. The blocke has to catch Mays to block him.

4) A concern with Howard would be will he be 100% recovered? Well you sign DeAndre Levy. If Howard is completely healthy then they battle for starting strongside duties. If Mays does not get it at WLB then Howard simply moves back. At the worst we have one hell of a backup LB in Mays, Howard, or Levy.

I am convinced that Taylor Mays is just lacking in football smarts and continues to make errors on the field. I don't really think he makes the club this year. He didn't even prove to be a very good ST player this year. Just because a guy is a tough Safety doesn't mean anything when you take away his advantage of being bigger than others. They tried Fulcher at LBer in his later years and he did nothing.

[ishouldbegm]

Originally Posted by OSUfan

The following are players that I believe could help this team and some combination of them I feel would be workable by this franchise.

1) Brian Hartline WR Miami

2) DeAndre Levy LB Detroit....plays the weakside for Detroit however was strongside LB while at Wisconsin.

3) Justin Durant LB Detroit.....plays the strongside for Detroit. Would fill the void we have when Lawson is on the field.

4) Nick Roach LB Chicago....would be an instant upgrade at the strongside for this franchise.

5) Antoine Cason CB San Diego...enough with the old end of their career DBs.

6) Chris Clemons S Miami

7) Derek Cox CB Jacksonville.....Would love to have this kids size (6'1" 195) in our division. Not too mention he ran a 4.39 - 40.

8) Bradley Fletcher CB St. Louis

9) Sean Smith CB Miami

Not sure about everyone else but I would be thrilled to get one of these LBs....preferrably Levy who is only 25 and one of these big, physical, young corners.

looks like a bunch of mid round picks

[OSUfan]

Originally Posted by ishouldbegm

looks like a bunch of mid round picks

What in the world are you talking about?

[BengalBite]

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Darnell Ellerbe
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