Joseph Randle

[bfine32]

think the Cierre Wood comparison is too far off. If you look at Wood's 2011 season it matches up pretty close to Randle's production from last year. For some reason Wood found himself in Kelley's doughouse this year and didn't really get an opportunity to produce; although, he did average 6.5 YPC in limited carries. Wood and Randle are similar in bulid and running style. Put Wood in the wide open Big XII, make him the feature back, and see what he does.

[BobJones4980]

Originally Posted by bfine32

think the Cierre Wood comparison is too far off. If you look at Wood's 2011 season it matches up pretty close to Randle's production from last year. For some reason Wood found himself in Kelley's doughouse this year and didn't really get an opportunity to produce; although, he did average 6.5 YPC in limited carries. Wood and Randle are similar in bulid and running style. Put Wood in the wide open Big XII, make him the feature back, and see what he does.

I gotta agree with you here, hell just look at the production this year for the two, Wood got about half the carries and half the yards, had he gotten the same amount of opportunities Randle did they might be alot closer in terms of numbers.

I will say I think Randle is the better receiver and I think Woods has much more leg power to run inside. All in all though I don't think there too far off either. Wood might actually be worth a look in 5-6.

[bfine32]

Originally Posted by BobJones4980

I gotta agree with you here, hell just look at the production this year for the two, Wood got about half the carries and half the yards, had he gotten the same amount of opportunities Randle did they might be alot closer in terms of numbers.

I will say I think Randle is the better receiver and I think Woods has much more leg power to run inside. All in all though I don't think there too far off either. Wood might actually be worth a look in 5-6.

Cierre Wood does get the nod in the mouthpiece department:

[BobJones4980]

Originally Posted by bfine32

Cierre Wood does get the nod in the mouthpiece department:

No doubt about it.

[DWright]

Originally Posted by bfine32

think the Cierre Wood comparison is too far off. If you look at Wood's 2011 season it matches up pretty close to Randle's production from last year. For some reason Wood found himself in Kelley's doughouse this year and didn't really get an opportunity to produce; although, he did average 6.5 YPC in limited carries. Wood and Randle are similar in bulid and running style. Put Wood in the wide open Big XII, make him the feature back, and see what he does.

They are taller slender built look more like a slot WR than a running back. Both are suited to the change of pace role in a offense.

That is why if you look at my draft in my sig you'll see me taking Ellington and Wood. I took Ellington as a feature back, but I realize that RB takes a beating so that's why I think they need two. With Wood and BJGE you would have a pounder and a COP back even if Ellington were injured which would keep defenses honest unlike last season.

[Lolli]

Originally Posted by OSUfan

Break down of Texas game:

Running play 1: gets the edge and makes a good move on the S (Vaccaro) to remain untouched. Breaks a tackle then makes another DB miss then flat out runs the defense for a TD.

Running play 2: Goes for about 7 yards. After first contact falls forward for an additional 2 yards.

Running play 3: A good 5 yard gain. Good wrap up leg tackle by DE from behind when runner is in traffic. Some trying to make a 5 yard gain a bad thing.

Running play 4: Gets the edge makes a tackler miss gets roughly 8 yards then runs over the first contact to get the first down.

Running play 5: 1 yard gain brought down by two defenders.

Running play 6: Exploits a very small crease gets about 4 yards then goes down with a gang tackle that some call first contact to try and make him look bad.

Running play 7: Exploits a crease. Line of scrimmage the 14 he gets to the 7 by diving under 2 defenders. Again some calling it first contact to make him look bad when he actually went under the defenders to get two additional yards and a first down. Giving them three more downs from the 7.

Running play 8: Exploits a very small crease getting inside the 5. 1:57 is the time of this play. Does not go down with first contact as some have stated. It is the third defender to hit him that takes him down.

Running play 9: Defense comes on a run blitz and is untouched getting into the backfield tackling Randle for a loss of about a yard.

Running play 10: Should have been a tackle for a loss but Randle gets it back to the line of scrimmage.

Running play 11: Gets the edge goes untouched for 20+ yards. Goes down on first contact thanks to his blocker running into him.

We can do this all day

We can, but you are seeing what you want to. I am pretty sure that I am being objective. He needs to be looked at again after his pro day to see if he runs faster. If not, then he is way too small to be running that slow.

Run play 1 was a great play. I would only give him credit for 2 good moves. I think you gave him credit for 3; of course that is just a matter of opinion.

He flat out embarrased Kenny, then he broke a tackle. The last DB took a bad angle, Randle did nothing to actually make the guy miss. If anything, he was redirected by the broken tackle which aided in the escape for the final tackler. Great play.

The 'to make them look bad' on your part is a biasing statement. My description is not. I do mention him falling forward to gain extra yards. That is a positive, it shows a good presence of mind to gain extra yards. Mentally, he appears to be a good player. When I mention 1st contact, it is either true or not. That is not a biased statement.

[Lolli]

This is probably true of most 'player vs.' videos, but does anybody else find it interesting that there is no Joseph Randle vs. Kansas State vids out there?

[D's Nuts and Bolts]

Originally Posted by Lolli

This is probably true of most 'player vs.' videos, but does anybody else find it interesting that there is no Joseph Randle vs. Kansas State vids out there?

I was actually at that game, he didn't stand out (15 for 43yards, 1 catch for 9). He looked like a WR playing RB, IMO. To be fair though that was the only game I saw of him during the year. Watching the TX,AZ,OK game clips he looks good. Really thought he would run faster, but he plays fast enough. Looks like he could be a player that does several things, has also been productive for two years straight. Had 24 rushing TD's last year. How much does the offense he played in effect his transition?

[bfine32]

Originally Posted by Lolli

This is probably true of most 'player vs.' videos, but does anybody else find it interesting that there is no Joseph Randle vs. Kansas State vids out there?

No doubt, there should be. He scored 3 TDs on them in 2011.

[Lolli]

Originally Posted by D's Nuts and Bolts

I was actually at that game, he didn't stand out (15 for 43yards, 1 catch for 9). He looked like a WR playing RB, IMO. To be fair though that was the only game I saw of him during the year. Watching the TX,AZ,OK game clips he looks good. Really thought he would run faster, but he plays fast enough. Looks like he could be a player that does several things, has also been productive for two years straight. Had 24 rushing TD's last year. How much does the offense he played in effect his transition?

I think he is a short area quickness guy. He looks like he cuts/starts/stops well. Hopefully he does those drills at his pro day.

[OSUfan]

Originally Posted by Luvnit2

I think there is a major difference in speed at the NFL level so it is a huge mistake to put too much stock on these guys run away from slower guys.

Just my 2 cents. Ellis is faster and most on this board want a speed back. I don't think he is a speed back NFL wise.

Ellis is faster than who?

[bfine32]

Originally Posted by OSUfan

Ellis is faster than who?

Than Randle according to this:

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2008&genpos=RB

[eliminate08]

Originally Posted by JungleRock85

I had watched some video of him before and remember being really impressed. Today I decided to look at some more and after watching I don't know how he isn't rated higher than a 3rd round pick. He may be my favorite Running Back in this entire draft. Eddie Lacy and Giovani Bernard are both really good players but Randle may be the best overall back of the three. He catches the ball well out of the back field, he is really quick and explosive, runs with good vision, and was really production the last three years. I would rank him really close to Lacy and Bernard and if we can land him in the late 2nd round or 3rd round he may provide the best value of the group.

Here are some links to a few of his games from this past season.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRY5wqDxNJE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noUyQJFPPLw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn3xjdLGUm4

Yeah, Randle and Ellington are the 2 backs i want the most the closer we get to draft day.

Randle like you said is really quick and can catch the ball very well. I just don't know about
his blocking. Haven't seen enough of that to really judge him. I heard Ellington can block
so there is another positive for him.

[THEBURG]

Is the Randall kid any relation to big foot, John Randall?

[Kevbo37]

Randle's combine time was scary slow for a RB who's a far cry away from a bruiser. As slender as he is it should of been way-way faster.