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Old 02-19-2013, 07:13 PM
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i feel you i just think the better value is at Taylor in the second and collins in the third then green in the second and a corner in the third cuz taylor wont be there and greene imo is too small he gets swallowed up alot once olineman get him. saw it alot at the senior bowl.but i could be wrong..i mean greene flys around.
I agree about Greene being a little small, but he's not afraid to attack the line of scrimmage and take on blocks. With Howard there to start at WLB he shouldnt have to come in and start right away which would let him playing special teams and maybe even some in the nickle to start out. I just feel like he's the playmaker that Cincy needs in the linebacker core. I do understand what you mean by the drop off in talent for CB from the second to third round.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:43 PM
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Andre Smith, Michael Johnson, Thomas Howard, Kevin Huber, Josh Brown, Wallace Gilberry, Adam Jones, Terrence Newman, Pat Sims.
FREE AGENCY
WR Mike Wallace- Hear me out with this...Wallace with Green would be daunting for defenses. With AJ's ability to play anywhere on the field I would be COMPLETELY fine with picking up the vertical and playmaking threat in Mike Wallace. With the issues he's having in Pittsburgh I also believe Wallace would love to burn his old team twice a year here in Cincy. With all the money we have(50.5 million) this makes too much “cents”
QB Matt Moore-I think Matt has the potential to be a stud in this league. If given a real chance, with a real squad, he will shine!
DE Lawrence Jackson-He’s a former first rounder outa SC. At 6'4 271lbs, he fits our mold and would be a great rotational talent. I think we could sign him for cheap.
TE Leonard Pope- At 6'8 265lbs i believe he comes in and takes over the Roland project in our BIG BOY package at TE. Pope is huge, and a great blocker, also displays solid hands.
KR Ted Ginn Jr- Ginn;s electric, and arguably the fastest player in the league. Lets tell Tate to get F***ed, and bring in Ginn. He'd be epic.

NFL DRAFT
1. Kenny Vaccaro FS Texas
Vaccaro is the best safety in this draft, if he's there at 21 GRAB HIM. He packs a punch with almost every hit, rarely ever missing tackles. Has a true knack for the ball, with great instincts, and displays incredible ball skills. Very athletic, physical, smart, Safety paired with Nelson locks up our back end for a while. IMO everyone on defense gets better with this pick.
2a. Menelik Watson OT Florida State

Watson has boxed for most of his life and the proof is in his footwork. He has incredible quickness for his size and moves extremely well. With his long reach huge frame, speed, and quickness Watson is destined for all pro status at LT. But he has alot to learn yet. At 6'6 325 lbs Hes very raw. I say we kick him inside at LG...with his mobility, long arms, and feet, he would be a monster. We need to resign andre, when whittworth gets too old watson is his replacement. by then Watson will be ready. Watson style is needed on our line. Lets get boling outa there.
2b. Jamar Taylor CB Boise State

Taylor was the standout in a pass defense that ranked third in the nation. According to Boise state coaches Taylor was clocked at 4.33 on his 40. taylor finished the year with 51 tackles, 13 pass defensed, 4 tackles for loss, 2.5 sacks, and 4 picks. at 5'11 190 Taylor is physical with great instincts and explosive burst being able to undercut routes consistently. Taylor is a stud and i think competes for the starting spot oppo hall. Id be good for Dre.
3. Jamie Collins SLB Southern Miss

Collins is the only OLB in this draft i really trust and would pall my eggs in 1 basket for. I have zero worry about his size at 6'3 245lbs he is the prototype OLB you want here. He has an extremely high football IQ playing DB OLB and DE through out his career. He can cover, rush, and smash. He flys around the field and is a man to fear on defense. Collins, and Burfict make an impact day 1.
4. Jawan Jamison RB Rutgers

This guy is 5’8 200 lbs and is a solid recking ball. Jawan is shifty with great quickness and good speed to break the big 1. He can run you over, shake you, stiff arm you to the dirt, spin right around you, or catch a pass outa the backfield and blow right by you. These small tree stump type backs are the way to go, they are hard to find behind the O-line and are shifty enough to go right around you or plow over you b/c of their great leverage. Here in the 4th Jamison is a steal.
5. David Bass DE Missouri Western State

Bass is 6’4 265lbs and a freak at the division 11 football. He won best defensive player of the year and over his 4 year career he racked up 40.5 sacks. Bass in our rotation on the D-line would make us absolutely dominant next year…70 sacks season next yr for us.
6a. Zac Stacy RB Vanderbilt

Stacy is a monster at 5’8 215lbs. That’s MJD. Stacy has great hands and amazing feet. He’s a very powerful runner, with surprising speed. Could run in the 4.4’s. He has good lateral balance and carries would be tacklers for days…his feet never stop. With his size and catching ability I see him being a top 5 back in the league being our starter with Jamison sparing him. Stacy is a great premier back and would be a great comp in our three headed monster as Stacy, Jamison, and Johnson. Fresh legs keeps the chains moving. Our running game was our weakest link and we had a top 10 offensive line…that doesn’t make sense. RB is priority I say we address it 3 times and we strike gold all three times.
6b. Vince Williams MLB Florida State

Possibly my favorite pick in the draft. Without the resigning of Skuta Vince Williams is a major upgrade at the position for a number of reasons. Williams is natural MIKE but has the speed and strength to play SAM and excel. With the concern in Howard and his Achilles, having someone behind him as a security blanket would be fantastic. With William’s instincts, strength, speed, and knack for the ball carrier, I think he is a potential starter in the league for us outside. He is 6’1 247lbs and runs a 4.6, and lays hat, reminds me a lot of Lawrence Timmons. Comes from a very strong and “power house” type defense at FSU…something tells me Burfict and Williams will shine together.

UDFA
Marquess Wilson WR Washington State

He's first round talent, but an idiot...million dollar body 10 cent brain. If he makes it udfa he's worth it to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdh5zP9JCPo
Dennis Johnson RB Arkansas

Dennis Johnson is 5’8 212 lbs. Very similar to the others drafted earlier. Has the ability size, and power to be and everydown back. Difference between him and the others is his speed and hands. Dennis Johnson is lightning quick and outside gio Bernard(1rst rounder) dennis Johnson has the best hands in the league at rb. Doesn’t drop a thing. I say we rebuild this whole backfield and start pounding away towards that super bowl…it can all be on Andy or its not going to happen. Stacy, Jamison, and Dennis Johnson would be incredible. Late round backs that all will be studs in the league on our team.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pijo3OaOYaY
Sean Renfree QB Duke

Renfree is 6’4 230 lbs. Very raw but from a prostyle offense. Renfree could be the project we are looking for. I have my concerns with Dalton hence the Matt Moore pick up and drafting Renfree would put me at ease completely. Not that he is the immediate answer but he could be the late future of this team. Cannon for an arm good mobility but still a pocket passer and played on a successful duke football team. Reminds me a lot of Tony Romo with his quick release and powerful arm. I think with the right amount of coaching confidence and time put in Renfree becomes a stud, and a starter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMb7Wo5nRD8

DEPTH CHART:
Depth Chart
QB: Andy Dalton, Matt Moore, Sean Renfree
FB: Chris Pressley/John Connor
RB: Jawan Jamison, Zac Stacy, BJGE, Dennis Johnson
WR: AJ Green, Mike Wallace, Mohamed Sanu, Marvin Jones, Andrew Hawkins, Marquess Wilson, Ted Ginn
TE: Jermaine Gresham, Orsan Charles, Leonard Pope
LT: Andrew Whitworth, Anthony Collins
LG: Menelik Watson, Clint Boling
C: Trevor Robinson, Kyle Cook
RG: Kevin Zietler, Clint Boling
RT: Andre Smith, Menelik Watson
LE: Carlos Dunlap, David Bass, Lawrence Jackson
DT: Geno Atkins, Brandon Thompson
NT: Devon Still, Pat Sims, Domata Peko
RE: Michael Johnson, Wallace Gilberry, Aaron Maybin
WLB: Jamie Collins, Emanuel Lamur, Brandon Joiner
MLB: Vontaze Burfict, Vince WIlliams
SLB: Thomas Howard, Vince Williams, Aaron Maybin
CB: Leon Hall, Dre Kirkpatrick, Jamar Taylor, Adam Jones, Terrance Newman, Brandon Ghee.
FS: Reggie Nelson, Taylor Mays, George Iloka
SS: Kenny Vacarro, Robert Sands
P: Kevin Huber
K: Josh Brown
KR: Ted Ginn Jr, Dennis Johnson.
PR: Adam Jones.
I love how you say lets get Boling out of there when the center position is the weakest spot on the OL. Cook is a bum and that is why Robinson had fans excited. I also wonder if you kick this guy in at LG until Whitworth retires then he will be there too long to be able to move outside and face speed rushers.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:14 AM
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Have you guys seen the film on VACCARO, Safety U of Texas?

He will be a BIG BUST! Poor tackling skills and Poor coverage. At the combine he will run a 4.6 and little strength! After combine and close film study he will drop pass 21!
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:41 AM
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I love how you say lets get Boling out of there when the center position is the weakest spot on the OL. Cook is a bum and that is why Robinson had fans excited. I also wonder if you kick this guy in at LG until Whitworth retires then he will be there too long to be able to move outside and face speed rushers.

ok. Disagree tho ha
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:42 AM
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Have you guys seen the film on VACCARO, Safety U of Texas?

He will be a BIG BUST! Poor tackling skills and Poor coverage. At the combine he will run a 4.6 and little strength! After combine and close film study he will drop pass 21!
Yea vaccaro is going to be a huge bust dude good call....SYKE! kick rocks
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