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Old 04-30-2011, 10:04 AM
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1 DEANDRE MCDANIEL | CLEMSON | STRONG SAFETY

Agility: Is a little stiff in the hips and doesn’t change direction with ease as well as you’d prefer. Is not overly agile or
athletic. Has enough burst to close on the ball.


Ball skills: Not a big interception guy but does a good job to always be around the ball.

Instincts: Known as a film-room warrior, McDaniel carries that film-room knowledge on to the field. Does a good job in
read and react. Gets his defense in position to make the best plays. A smart player.


Pass coverage: Clemson was often able to use McDaniel to cover the slot receiver and he did an exemplary job. He
can be physical at the line and really push the receiver around. Understands how a play is going to develop and has
the look of a smart football player. McDaniel has trouble at times in zone where he has to move around a large area. If
McDaniel gets out of position in coverage, he can be easily beaten.

Run support: McDaniel was also used in the linebacker/safety spot at times. It took advantage of his strong play against
the run. McDaniel takes good angles to the ball and doesn’t get held up on blocks. Looks to have good playing speed
to chase down the ball carrier.

Speed: Has good enough speed to hang with inside receivers, run down ball carriers and make plays in deep coverage.
Tackling: Is a fundamentally sound tackler, but really likes to lay out opponents. Closes with a lot of quickness. Not
afraid to stick his head in a pile and make tackles. Isn’t a feared tackler, but is very consistent.


Final word: McDaniel really arrived as an NFL prospect with a sensational 2009 season. On the year, he had 102 tackles
and eight interceptions, earning All American honors. He has a lot of attributes to be a very good NFL safety. He’s
big and physical, and has some versatility to his game. However, there’s just something holding him back from being
a premier prospect. For whatever reason, McDaniel was extremely inconsistent in 2010. That may make some teams
hesitant on plugging him in as a rookie.



2 TYLER SASH | IOWA | STRONG SAFETY


Agility: Is not super athletic or agile. Doesn’t jump off the page at you with workout numbers that make scouts drool.
He’s just a solid football player. He has the speed to get to the ball and the balance to make plays in pass coverage.


Ball skills: Has done a remarkable job getting to the football and then making a play on it. Has 13 career interceptions,
which is very good for a strong safety.

Instincts: Sash is one of the more instinctive defensive backs in this year’s class and always manages to put himself
in good position to make plays.

Pass coverage: At Iowa, Sash played in a lot of cover-2 zone, so he’ll go to the NFL knowing how to properly manage
an area. Is more athletic than most probably think. Has shown throughout his career that he has solid hands. Isn’t the
kind of safety that should be matched up one-on-one with a wide receiver. Has the tendency to keep his eyes in the
backfield too long and is fooled on pump fakes and play action. When he’s matched up against tight ends, Sash likes
to get physical. While that may work at the college level, he could get overpowered in the pros. Will play recklessly at
times and run past the play.


Run support: Is willing to fly up to the line of scrimmage and attack the run. Does a good job seeing the run develop
and is quick to react to the ball. Sees the field well and takes the right angles to the ball.


Speed: Has some quick-twitch movement to his game which allows him to break on the ball and make a play. Is not
sprinter fast but isn’t slow either.



Tackling: Really flies down the line against the run. Takes good angles to the ball and is strong enough to shed block
ers. Likes to be a thumper when he really needs to become a more fundamental tackler.



Final word: Sash was one of the surprise early entrants to the 2011 NFL Draft. He showed at Iowa, though, that he’s
ready for the NFL. He has experience in zone coverage and is decent in man. With 13 career interceptions, he has
shown he can make a play on the ball.


While he may never be a top-tier safety in the pros, he’s good. Sash has consistently made plays and really likes to be around the action.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:12 AM
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1 DEANDRE MCDANIEL | CLEMSON | STRONG SAFETY

Agility: Is a little stiff in the hips and doesn’t change direction with ease as well as you’d prefer. Is not overly agile or
athletic. Has enough burst to close on the ball.


Ball skills: Not a big interception guy but does a good job to always be around the ball.

Instincts: Known as a film-room warrior, McDaniel carries that film-room knowledge on to the field. Does a good job in
read and react. Gets his defense in position to make the best plays. A smart player.


Pass coverage: Clemson was often able to use McDaniel to cover the slot receiver and he did an exemplary job. He
can be physical at the line and really push the receiver around. Understands how a play is going to develop and has
the look of a smart football player. McDaniel has trouble at times in zone where he has to move around a large area. If
McDaniel gets out of position in coverage, he can be easily beaten.

Run support: McDaniel was also used in the linebacker/safety spot at times. It took advantage of his strong play against
the run. McDaniel takes good angles to the ball and doesn’t get held up on blocks. Looks to have good playing speed
to chase down the ball carrier.

Speed: Has good enough speed to hang with inside receivers, run down ball carriers and make plays in deep coverage.
Tackling: Is a fundamentally sound tackler, but really likes to lay out opponents. Closes with a lot of quickness. Not
afraid to stick his head in a pile and make tackles. Isn’t a feared tackler, but is very consistent.


Final word: McDaniel really arrived as an NFL prospect with a sensational 2009 season. On the year, he had 102 tackles
and eight interceptions, earning All American honors. He has a lot of attributes to be a very good NFL safety. He’s
big and physical, and has some versatility to his game. However, there’s just something holding him back from being
a premier prospect. For whatever reason, McDaniel was extremely inconsistent in 2010. That may make some teams
hesitant on plugging him in as a rookie.



2 TYLER SASH | IOWA | STRONG SAFETY


Agility: Is not super athletic or agile. Doesn’t jump off the page at you with workout numbers that make scouts drool.
He’s just a solid football player. He has the speed to get to the ball and the balance to make plays in pass coverage.


Ball skills: Has done a remarkable job getting to the football and then making a play on it. Has 13 career interceptions,
which is very good for a strong safety.

Instincts: Sash is one of the more instinctive defensive backs in this year’s class and always manages to put himself
in good position to make plays.

Pass coverage: At Iowa, Sash played in a lot of cover-2 zone, so he’ll go to the NFL knowing how to properly manage
an area. Is more athletic than most probably think. Has shown throughout his career that he has solid hands. Isn’t the
kind of safety that should be matched up one-on-one with a wide receiver. Has the tendency to keep his eyes in the
backfield too long and is fooled on pump fakes and play action. When he’s matched up against tight ends, Sash likes
to get physical. While that may work at the college level, he could get overpowered in the pros. Will play recklessly at
times and run past the play.


Run support: Is willing to fly up to the line of scrimmage and attack the run. Does a good job seeing the run develop
and is quick to react to the ball. Sees the field well and takes the right angles to the ball.


Speed: Has some quick-twitch movement to his game which allows him to break on the ball and make a play. Is not
sprinter fast but isn’t slow either.



Tackling: Really flies down the line against the run. Takes good angles to the ball and is strong enough to shed block
ers. Likes to be a thumper when he really needs to become a more fundamental tackler.



Final word: Sash was one of the surprise early entrants to the 2011 NFL Draft. He showed at Iowa, though, that he’s
ready for the NFL. He has experience in zone coverage and is decent in man. With 13 career interceptions, he has
shown he can make a play on the ball.


While he may never be a top-tier safety in the pros, he’s good. Sash has consistently made plays and really likes to be around the action.
McDaniel was on 3 practice sqauds last year, and is currently a free agent. Alot of folks had him pegged as the #1 safety prospect in last years draft. I say we bring him in.
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McDaniel was on 3 practice sqauds last year, and is currently a free agent. Alot of folks had him pegged as the #1 safety prospect in last years draft. I say we bring him in.
Was never a huge fan of his. Still not.
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I would have taken him in the 3rd. Shows how much I really know. He was the Polk of last years draft.
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I would have taken him in the 3rd. Shows how much I really know. He was the Polk of last years draft.
Polk was a good player who just had injury concerns. This guy just isn't very good.
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Polk was a good player who just had injury concerns. This guy just isn't very good.
I thought McDaniels was, but clearly you right.
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McDaniel isn't your typical SS, he succeeded in college because he was allowed to act on his instincts. I could see him working out in Pittsburgh but not here. I think time with Troy would bring the best out of him. No I'm not saying he's as good as T.P.
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I liked DeAndre Mcdaniel as well. I say we bring him in.
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I would have taken him in the 3rd. Shows how much I really know. He was the Polk of last years draft.
Gotta agree, plus he absolutely showed out in his last College Game. At first I thought it was the Off Field stuff that made him drop, but the longer he doesn't play in the NFL the more that may not be the case.

Was also a huge fan Of Deunta Williams. He musta shredded his knee Kenny Irons style or else he wasn't as good as I thought.
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I liked DeAndre Mcdaniel as well. I say we bring him in.

Bring him in, for what? The Bengals already have more S, and CBs that could play S better than McDaniel, than will even make the roster.



Besides, he's only running a 4.65 and his weaknesses include getting caught staring in the backfield and not being fluid enough to mirror quick recievers. Like the Bengals need more of that on the roster. At least Taylor Mays is lighning fast...in a straight line.

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