Could switching OCs so often be detrimental to Dalton's progression as QB

[Dalton's_Gang]

Originally Posted by RedBengal9

31-63 TEs with 2 straight pro bowl apperances? Doubtful. I am down on Gresh, especially after that last game...but I think a guy like Hue could do a lot more than what is currently being done with him.

he only got this probowl because of an injury,not because of talent.

[graphicguy]

Originally Posted by NC Bengal Mike

Thats just dumb.

if you will remember the outcry when Andy OVERTHREW aj on the bomb in the 4th quarter last week he threw the ball with his plant foot on his own 40 and the ball bounced on the back line of the endzone. Thats 70 yards with some heat.

Andy's issue is confident and touch, not arm strenght

Touche! Reps for you!

[r3stangs]

Originally Posted by OSUfan

Just as many say Dalton is a bad QB after 2 seasons it is just as silly to call Jay a bad OC after only 2 seasons. I sure remember posts earlier in the season that sure were contrary to what is being stated now.

True. But the end of he season was painful to watch offensively. We regressed a long way for whatever reasons.

[bengalfan74]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

What developed talent do we have?
AJ Green?
We have nothing else on the field that could even be called remotely consistent.

None ! That's the job of a coaching staff.

AJ isn't a developed talent, he is a natural born one.

But you hit on the problem ! And this is what separates the regular coaches from the great ones. None of our players that are just average ever learn how to rise above it through coaching.

[IllWill]

Originally Posted by NYBengalsNY

Dalton isn't the answer. Weak arm and not tall enough to see over the line. His passing options are limited due to being short which makes it easier defend and more prone to passing in tight spots which lead to tipped or incomplete passes.

Every time he went back to pass you knew it was low pct. throw/catch.

Dalton is as tall as or taller than Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, and Russel Wilson. Those guys seem to have adapted pretty well, wouldn't you say?

[Juniversal]

Originally Posted by NYBengalsNY

Dalton isn't the answer. Weak arm and not tall enough to see over the line. His passing options are limited due to being short which makes it easier defend and more prone to passing in tight spots which lead to tipped or incomplete passes.

Every time he went back to pass you knew it was low pct. throw/catch.

Stop it. He's the same height as some of the best QB's to play the game. He just needs the right coaches to help further develop his ability.

[Juniversal]

Originally Posted by NC Bengal Mike

Thats just dumb.

if you will remember the outcry when Andy OVERTHREW aj on the bomb in the 4th quarter last week he threw the ball with his plant foot on his own 40 and the ball bounced on the back line of the endzone. Thats 70 yards with some heat.

Andy's issue is confident and touch, not arm strenght

100% agree. I do believe confidence (and in part) bad mechanics has more to do with the bad deep ball then simply having an arm that's too weak to belt it down field.

Originally Posted by Nightrat

He might progress better with a different QB coach though.

Seriously. Why is Zampese still on this coaching staff? The guy has nothing on his resume that would suggest he would be a competent QB coach or deserves to keep his job. Certainly not after Carson's struggles and bad technique (that play action = yuck and Andy's is not much better) and Andy's regression towards the end of the season.

[Slappy from New Haven]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

Seriously? 21 players? You are okay with people like that? Come on.
Dalton is not what I would call developed.
Gresham is far from it. He is borderline starter right now.
Hawkins? Give me a break.
Pressley is a FB. He is a blocker. That is all.

I could name 21 WR I would take over Hawkins.
I could name a lot of TE I would take over Gresham.
Too few teams use a FB anymore.
I can think of a lot of RB I would take over BJGE.

that is what FB's are. Blockers.

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