Phillip Wheeler

[Mr. Cinister]

With talk (and hope) that Burfict moves to MIKE next year, I, like many of you have been looking for free agent OLB's that not only improve our team, but also makes sense as someone the front office could pursue. Of course, this is all provided that Thomas Howard does not return next year. With that said, I would like to submit Phillip Wheeler from the Oakland Raiders. Wheeler led the team with 150 tackles, 3 sacks, broke up six passes, forced two fumbles and recovered a fumble. With our defensive coaching staff, I can see major potiential for even better production with Wheeler here at the Bengals. Just a thought.

[ibengals]

I think Wheeler can become a fantastic linebacker if he's not already considered as such. Probably the most improved player on the Raiders this past year, and he'd probably thrive here. I can't see the Raiders letting him go, but if they do, I'm all for it.

[gardner30]

I'd be very happy with Wheeler.

I bet he gets the tag from the Raiders, from what I have read they love him.

[NATI BENGALS]

I don't know why he would keep us from bringing Howard back. He is the free agent LB i want. He could play SAM and Howard WILL with Burfict in the middle. He played SAM last year.

Oakland has salary cap issues already, I doubt they want to or can afford to franchise tag him. He is a prime candidate for us to snatch away.

[McC]

Originally Posted by NATI BENGALS

I don't know why he would keep us from bringing Howard back. He is the free agent LB i want. He could play SAM and Howard WILL with Burfict in the middle. He played SAM last year.

Oakland has salary cap issues already, I doubt they want to or can afford to franchise tag him. He is a prime candidate for us to snatch away.

Would love to sign him.

How bad must it be to sukk AND have cap issues? That sounds like a hopeless situation.

[M.W.]

Originally Posted by McC

Would love to sign him.

How bad must it be to sukk AND have cap issues? That sounds like a hopeless situation.

No doubt... That is like a football fans Hell.

I too would like Wheeler btw

[urinalcake]

Originally Posted by Mr. Cinister

With talk (and hope) that Burfict moves to MIKE next year, I, like many of you have been looking for free agent OLB's that not only improve our team, but also makes sense as someone the front office could pursue. Of course, this is all provided that Thomas Howard does not return next year. With that said, I would like to submit Phillip Wheeler from the Oakland Raiders. Wheeler led the team with 150 tackles, 3 sacks, broke up six passes, forced two fumbles and recovered a fumble. With our defensive coaching staff, I can see major potiential for even better production with Wheeler here at the Bengals. Just a thought.

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[Mr. Cinister]

Originally Posted by NATI BENGALS

Oakland has salary cap issues already, I doubt they want to or can afford to franchise tag him. He is a prime candidate for us to snatch away.

Exactly. This is one of the main reasons I suggested him. He's a very good talent without being a name. We need an OLB, and have the money to get him without breaking the bank. It helps that Oakland's cap issues are horrendous, too. I don't see how they could keep Wheeler without further injuring themselves.

[gardner30]

Oakland will find a way to keep him.

Remember how far over the cap the Steelers were last year?

They were still able to keep the guys they wanted.

They could unload a lot of dead weight from their roster this year.

Seymour has an option for like 15 mil that will probably get declined.

DHB has a big cap number that will get him cut or restructure etc etc.

[BengalzHacker]

Originally Posted by gardner30

Oakland will find a way to keep him.

Remember how far over the cap the Steelers were last year?

They were still able to keep the guys they wanted.

They could unload a lot of dead weight from their roster this year.

Seymour has an option for like 15 mil that will probably get declined.

DHB has a big cap number that will get him cut or restructure etc etc.

Palmer's not even safe I'd bet.

That being said, getting Wheeler would be a great move if we could do it.

[Mr. Cinister]

Originally Posted by gardner30

Oakland will find a way to keep him.

Remember how far over the cap the Steelers were last year?

They were still able to keep the guys they wanted.

They could unload a lot of dead weight from their roster this year.

Seymour has an option for like 15 mil that will probably get declined.

DHB has a big cap number that will get him cut or restructure etc etc.

Yes, but as I recall, that was because no one was really challenging Pittsburgh to sign any of their free agents. Oakland can't afford to get into a bidding war with another team. The only reasons I could see us not getting Wheeler, if we wanted him, was either because he wanted to stay in Oakland (Going to a team on the rise with a top 10 defense may tempt him, though) or if his asking price rose to more than the one we'd value him at.

[gardner30]

Originally Posted by Mr. Cinister

Yes, but as I recall, that was because no one was really challenging Pittsburgh to sign any of their free agents. Oakland can't afford to get into a bidding war with another team. The only reasons I could see us not getting Wheeler, if we wanted him, was either because he wanted to stay in Oakland (Going to a team on the rise with a top 10 defense may tempt him, though) or if his asking price rose to more than the one we'd value him at.

Or they tagged him, which $ for LBers is very reasonable if I remember correctly.

I would love to have Wheeler but I think the Raiders will do everything they can to keep him including cutting high paid, less productive salaries like Tommy Kelley etc.

[Norm]

A player that meets all three of the following:
1. Talented
2. In his prime
3. Fills a need

Love it!

[Mike M (the other one)]

Originally Posted by Norm

A player that meets all three of the following:
1. Talented
2. In his prime
3. Fills a need

Love it!

Probably means we won't sign him. Although he's on my short list of off-season free agents I would like to see signed. I'm hoping that Hue can help the FO make a decision to bring him here.

[Jabberwocky]

Originally Posted by gardner30

DHB has a big cap number that will get him cut or restructure etc etc.

Now my wheels are turning. What would DHB look like in stripes across from AJ?



And somehow steal Wheeler away as well?



Taking some of the best talent away from the Raidahs after stealing draft picks from them?

[Weazzel80]

Originally Posted by McC

Would love to sign him.

How bad must it be to sukk AND have cap issues? That sounds like a hopeless situation.

not to mention they are down a second round pick

[Luvnit2]

Originally Posted by BengalzHacker

Palmer's not even safe I'd bet.

That being said, getting Wheeler would be a great move if we could do it.

LOL..Palmer is totally safe for next 2 years. He is guaranteed 13 million in 2013 and 15 million in 2015.

Great trade Mike Brown.

[McC]

Originally Posted by Weazzel80

not to mention they are down a second round pick

And that too. And a high second to boot. When it rains, it pours.