Why Don't We Throw Jump Balls to AJ?

[rfaulk34]

Originally Posted by Ryan Mc

No, I don't think that's what we're talking about, since no offense in the history of the league has included regular Hail-Mary type jump balls. We're talking exactly about throwing the ball up to AJ down the sideline when he is very well covered and letting him make a play for the ball .. exactly the kind of play you're referring to in your second sentence. Andy overthrew four of those that I can remember ... see my post #15 ...but OK on one AJ was slowed by PI, so make it three overthrows.

Of five passes i can think of off the top of my head, one was called PI, on one he was bumped by Polamalu to slow him down, on one Polamalu arrived the same time the ball did and he broke the pass up (hit AJ right in the hands, in stride), one he almost came down with (4th and 22) and one he had to adjust but the ball still hit him in the hands.

EDIT: One pass to Jones in the end zone was a bit under thrown but it was in his hands and he could have made the play.

[tcholas]

Originally Posted by bradfritz21

Check the video that I posted, but that's not even a good example.

A jump ball is when a receiver goes deep, the quarterback just throws it up, the receiver doesn't have the defensive back beat, so it just becomes jumping up and catching the ball at its highest point.

Larry Fitzgerald has a MSc in this move.

[FRAv]

Originally Posted by Bengal4ever68

Aj would win a jump ball battle and he will beat people deep with his speed. I kind of agree though, i'd much rather see Andy under throw it and give Aj a chance than over throw it and give Aj no chance at all...Andy's deep ball is frustrating because they are blown opportunity's for a big play.

This was what many people *****ed and moaned about all last season, and a big reason the whole 'arm strength' debate even began. I guess no one is ever just happy to have a QB putting up pretty amazing numbers for a second year player. Balls will be under and overthrown all season long by every QB in the league. Focus on the fact that we have a receiver near the top of the league in most categories and a young QB making great progress, leading us to our first back-to-back playoffs in over 20 years.

[XenoMorph]

Originally Posted by bradfritz21

I know it's not how the WCO works, but why don't we ever send AJ deep, just have Dalton lob the ball up, and tell AJ to go get it?

I'm not comparing AJ to Randy Moss, but does anybody remember Moss with the Vikings? That's all they did! Moss would either outrun people or just jump over them to catch deep balls.

AJ's 6'4, most corners are 5'10 or 5'11, and most safeties are between 6'0 and 6'2, so I like his chances!
You could say the safety has a running start, but hitting AJ in stride would allow him to have a running start, too.

Can anybody tell me why we don't do that?

they tried several times on sunday vs Pitt..

what i was most happy about is handing the ball to Tate and letting him run it (okay shovel pass whatever)

But thats what ive been calling for all season.

[bradfritz21]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

You can't throw jump balls when the S is ALWAYS over top

Moss and Culpepper used to do it all the time and that's what I'm saying- AJ can outjump any defensive back.

Originally Posted by FRAv

This was what many people *****ed and moaned about all last season, and a big reason the whole 'arm strength' debate even began. I guess no one is ever just happy to have a QB putting up pretty amazing numbers for a second year player. Balls will be under and overthrown all season long by every QB in the league. Focus on the fact that we have a receiver near the top of the league in most categories and a young QB making great progress, leading us to our first back-to-back playoffs in over 20 years.

I'm pretty sure people *****ed because Andy's arm strength didn't let him lead the receivers when they needed to be led. We're talking about a whole different scenario and one where AJ can just go up and get a ball. He still needs arm strength for this and you're kind of killing your own argument because who cares if he has arm strength if it's not accurate, which not being accurate is what causes the whole overthrowing.

He'll get there with the long ball accuracy but that's for when AJ has a step on his man and I'm just talking about, when a defensive back is running stride-for-stride, just throwing it up and letting AJ outjump his man.

Originally Posted by BengalsFan024

they tried several times on sunday vs Pitt..

what i was most happy about is handing the ball to Tate and letting him run it (okay shovel pass whatever)

But thats what ive been calling for all season.

Not like I mean they didn't.

[XenoMorph]

Originally Posted by bradfritz21

Moss and Culpepper used to do it all the time and that's what I'm saying- AJ can outjump any defensive back.


I'm pretty sure people *****ed because Andy's arm strength didn't let him lead the receivers when they needed to be led. We're talking about a whole different scenario and one where AJ can just go up and get a ball. He still needs arm strength for this and you're kind of killing your own argument because who cares if he has arm strength if it's not accurate, which not being accurate is what causes the whole overthrowing.

He'll get there with the long ball accuracy but that's for when AJ has a step on his man and I'm just talking about, when a defensive back is running stride-for-stride, just throwing it up and letting AJ outjump his man.



Not like I mean they didn't.

From what ive been seeing some of his misses on the long ball has been due to not being able to step into his throw or having the throw it high to avoid a Defensive player in his face.