Bring back Jourdan Brooks

[Xs&Os]

Originally Posted by Truck_1_0_1_

Lorenzo Neal is the most overrated FB in history.

Not only was he thrust into good sitches constantly, but he was a run-of-the-mill FB, and nothing more.

Jeremi is the best FB we've had since Ickey, and the best blocking RB we've ever had.

Furthermore, your comment is irrelevant to what I said; Nobody can do much with only 10 snaps a game.

And Kuhn, Donald Penn, +more made that list. If you believe it, you've GOTTA check some things out.

Your opinion of a FB with as 4 Pro-Bowls and 2 All-Pros is ................at best, not merited.

Your opinion regarding Jeremi Johnson, is just an opinion. I saw Ickey Woods play as a rookie, and he was rarely a blocking back, although listed as FB.

My comment is very relevant. If we had the talent at FB, he will be on the field.

You should watch Leach play, and then express an opinion.

[Truck_1_0_1_]

Originally Posted by Xs&Os

Your opinion of a FB with as 4 Pro-Bowls and 2 All-Pros is ................at best, not merited.

Your opinion regarding Jeremi Johnson, is just an opinion. I saw Ickey Woods play as a rookie, and he was rarely a blocking back, although listed as FB.

My comment is very relevant. If we had the talent at FB, he will be on the field.

You should watch Leach play, and then express an opinion.

lol

I've been watching him since he was Texan.

Furthermore, the PB is a popularity contest, and Geno should've been an all-pro last year, so sorry, that "merit" is BS.

I have written 3 posts since 2009 detailing his overratedness.

And no, that's not my opinion re Jeremi. Unlike Neal as well, he could carry and had good hands.

As well, Icley was a FB, whether he blocked or not. Its irrelevant to the conversation on what he did, what matters is his position.

And I'm telling you that Pressley IS talent; we don't use it. Period.

Last year he saw 19 snaps a game. He did very well.

This year he's seeing 12 snaps a game. He's doing markedly worse.

Leach gets more opportunities to succeed, thus he will succeed more often; law of averages.

[Derrick]

Originally Posted by BengalsFan024

College colors dont fly here in the NFL its all about whats best for the team... Like Leon Hall is from michigan but i still like him. Last year we started an OSU and MU CB on each side and played great. College colors stay at the college level.

That said I want Brooks at least back on the Practice Squad. Yeah he fumbled in the preseason.. (rookie trying to do too much)

Herron would run well behind this line dont forget what he was able to do his last year in NCAA coming back from suspension and having big games. He could help us. Whoever is best on ST's as that is where a majority of their snaps will occur.

I hope it is on the kick-OFF team and not the receiving ST for obvious reasons.

[OSUfan]

Originally Posted by Truck_1_0_1_

lol

I've been watching him since he was Texan.

Furthermore, the PB is a popularity contest, and Geno should've been an all-pro last year, so sorry, that "merit" is BS.

I have written 3 posts since 2009 detailing his overratedness.

And no, that's not my opinion re Jeremi. Unlike Neal as well, he could carry and had good hands.

As well, Icley was a FB, whether he blocked or not. Its irrelevant to the conversation on what he did, what matters is his position.

And I'm telling you that Pressley IS talent; we don't use it. Period.

Last year he saw 19 snaps a game. He did very well.

This year he's seeing 12 snaps a game. He's doing markedly worse.

Leach gets more opportunities to succeed, thus he will succeed more often; law of averages.

What they do is sort of relevant. Don't tell me you are one that actually believes Jim Brown was a fullback. In title he may have been in job duties he was not. I can call myself a millionaire but if I do not have millions then am I really?

[Xs&Os]

Originally Posted by Truck_1_0_1_

lol

I've been watching him since he was Texan.

Furthermore, the PB is a popularity contest, and Geno should've been an all-pro last year, so sorry, that "merit" is BS.

I have written 3 posts since 2009 detailing his overratedness.

And no, that's not my opinion re Jeremi. Unlike Neal as well, he could carry and had good hands.

As well, Icley was a FB, whether he blocked or not. Its irrelevant to the conversation on what he did, what matters is his position.

And I'm telling you that Pressley IS talent; we don't use it. Period.

Last year he saw 19 snaps a game. He did very well.

This year he's seeing 12 snaps a game. He's doing markedly worse.

Leach gets more opportunities to succeed, thus he will succeed more often; law of averages.

Seems to me that you have a nonsensical underappreciation of Leach, given that you have posted three times since 2009 about his "overratedness". If PB is a popularity contest, is All-pro, as well? I don't understand your opinion, so I guess to each his own.

Ickey was a RB, not a FB. He was listed his first year as a FB, when we already had Wilson as our designated FB. Woods also had more carries than our designated RB that year. But after that first year, he was designated correctly as RB. He was the power back.

Pressley is not in the same class as Neal or Leach as a blocker. Pressley IS NOT talent. That is with a period and exclamation point.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/...a-efd9485c3481

http://thesteelersfans.com/forums/sh...mpton&p=107407

[Truck_1_0_1_]

Originally Posted by Xs&Os

Seems to me that you have a nonsensical underappreciation of Leach, given that you have posted three times since 2009 about his "overratedness". If PB is a popularity contest, is All-pro, as well? I don't understand your opinion, so I guess to each his own.

Ickey was a RB, not a FB. He was listed his first year as a FB, when we already had Wilson as our designated FB. Woods also had more carries than our designated RB that year. But after that first year, he was designated correctly as RB. He was the power back.

Pressley is not in the same class as Neal or Leach as a blocker. Pressley IS NOT talent. That is with a period and exclamation point.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/...a-efd9485c3481

http://thesteelersfans.com/forums/sh...mpton&p=107407

Neal since 2009, not Leach.

Furthermore, you don't like Pressley, cool.

To say he's not talent is laughable, as the history has proven.

[Xs&Os]

Originally Posted by Truck_1_0_1_

Neal since 2009, not Leach.

Furthermore, you don't like Pressley, cool.

To say he's not talent is laughable, as the history has proven.

I don't dislike Pressley, but he is not in the same class as either of these two FBs.
You are saying that he is talent, and I am saying he is not. So we disagree.

But to say that my opinion of him is "laughable, as history has proven" is unjustified, because, there is a lack of information from history, which proves it.

His underutilization in a WC offense is more related to talent than scheme. If you look at Buccaneers 2002, 2003 and 2004 seasons, you will see the difference in FB utilization between '02 and '04 compared with '03. Alstott was the FB in '02 and '04, whereas Cook was the FB in '03. Same system, 2 different players.

[EyeOfTheTiger]

Lol, my bad.

I got the two confused - I want that RB from TCU that we cut after training camp. Better option than Brooks.

[EatonFan]

Originally Posted by Ben zoo 2

Seems I recall some of the osu "homers" bemoaning the Herron pick. Just sayin.

I'm an OSU fan (well... a moderate one) and I didn't care for the Herron pick. However, it was the sixth round and I was ok with spending a sixth rounder on him. Not like a lot of sixth rounders make huge impacts. Here's to hoping though.

[eliminate08]

Originally Posted by EyeOfTheTiger

If all the OSU homers will allow it

Get rid of Herron

Bring back Jourdan Brooks

Have him as our emergency 3rd back, he has been with the team all season up until November

He knows the play book

He is probably in game shape

Better than some guy who has been on his couch all year

I liked Brooks when he was here as well. Looked big and fast.

I am not a Buckeye fan at all but calling out OSU fans is getting old around here IMO.

[Bengal050]

Originally Posted by EyeOfTheTiger

If all the OSU homers will allow it

Get rid of Herron

Bring back Jourdan Brooks

Have him as our emergency 3rd back, he has been with the team all season up until November

He knows the play book

He is probably in game shape

Better than some guy who has been on his couch all year

Let me say something first, I'm an OSU homer. But I'm more of an Bengals homer. We have to make moves that's best for the team and not what we want because this certain player played in this college and what not.

Now with that being said, obviously the coaches thought Herron was more prepared than Brooks. Brooks wasn't even on the practice squad. So that is really saying something. Now if front office wanted to bring Brooks back to the P.S., I would not oppose to that. But to this argument, Herron was the better choice.