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Old 08-27-2008, 08:46 AM
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http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...NTPAGECAROUSEL

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What are your thoughts here?

It was proposed the other day here that "the s word" had nothing to do with cheerleading. That cheerleading was just for...cheering.

Anyone still buy that?

That must be why the skirts are so short?

Anyone think the Enquirer is milking this fact by making it a "top story?"
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but thats why I went to high school :(
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i think it's bull. Reminds me of the southpark where they have the PC Christmas program. I have a friend that has a son in that school and he blamed it on all the new yuppies that recently moved up there from the Cincinnati area.
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I like the irony that it isn't ok for them to wear them to class but it is ok for them to wear to a school sponsored event such as football and basketball games.
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ok, I have to get this out of the way.

"Thats what I like about high school girls, I keep getting older and they stay the same age... yes they do, yes they do..."
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I like the irony that it isn't ok for them to wear them to class but it is ok for them to wear to a school sponsored event such as football and basketball games.
That was exactly my first thought. It's a 100% double standard.

The dress code of skirts needing to be no more than 3" above the knee is nothing new - in fact, it's actually lenient compared to most private schools I know about. And it's not like they said they cannot wear the uniforms at all:

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The cheerleaders were told Thursday that their slit-sided miniskirts would violate the policy, unless the girls wore leggings or long shorts under the skirts.
So this is not just a "school spirit" issue here. Anyone complaining is complaining for vanity/sexual reasons. They can still wear the uniforms.

I'll give you the easiest way to fix this issue, though - make the dang cheerleading skirts longer. There is absolutely no reason they cannot be 4-5" longer than they are. None.
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I just think it is funny that people try to separate cheerleading from that "s" word we're not allowed to say here anymore.

Because it all changes when that's your girl out there.

But make no mistake, cheerleading is what it is, or else they wouldn't require the revealing clothing.

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I'll give you the easiest way to fix this issue, though - make the dang cheerleading skirts longer. There is absolutely no reason they cannot be 4-5" longer than they are. None.
Yes there is. Its the big elephant in the room, as a matter of fact. "Daddy" never wants to think about it like that though, so you get charades like what is happening in the article.
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That was exactly my first thought. It's a 100% double standard.

The dress code of skirts needing to be no more than 3" above the knee is nothing new - in fact, it's actually lenient compared to most private schools I know about. And it's not like they said they cannot wear the uniforms at all:



So this is not just a "school spirit" issue here. Anyone complaining is complaining for vanity/sexual reasons. They can still wear the uniforms.

I'll give you the easiest way to fix this issue, though - make the dang cheerleading skirts longer. There is absolutely no reason they cannot be 4-5" longer than they are. None.
You're just an old fuddy-duddy :p How can them girls possibly show their sexuality and be popular with longer skirts?
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I just think it is funny that people try to separate cheerleading from that "s" word we're not allowed to say here anymore.

Because it all changes when that's your girl out there.

But make no mistake, cheerleading is what it is, or else they wouldn't require the revealing clothing.

Just another stop down the river of D-Nile...
So, just because it's revealing that makes it about sex?

Then I guess all those girls doing gymnastics or swimming in Olympics aren't actually competing or doing something they've always wanted to do. It's all about sex. I mean, it has to be about sex, why else are they doing gymnastics or swimming in something other than an ankle-length dress or in business suit and slacks.
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I just think it is funny that people try to separate cheerleading from that "s" word we're not allowed to say here anymore.

Because it all changes when that's your girl out there.

But make no mistake, cheerleading is what it is, or else they wouldn't require the revealing clothing.

Just another stop down the river of D-Nile...
I 100% disagree with this. There is a whole lot more to cheerleading than sexuality. Cheerleading existed long before revealing outfits became a part of it. Beyond that, many squads compete in gymnastic-like competitions that take a lot of skill and talent. The revealing outfits are a sad side effect of society with women, not an inherent part of cheerleading. Trust me, Notre Dame cheerleaders aren't wearing anything revealing during cold October and November games - and they still are a welcome and traditional part of games.
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Yes there is. Its the big elephant in the room, as a matter of fact. "Daddy" never wants to think about it like that though, so you get charades like what is happening in the article.
There is absolutely no VALID reason for it. Only societal reasons that make objects of women.
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You're just an old fuddy-duddy :p How can them girls possibly show their sexuality and be popular with longer skirts?


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I 100% disagree with this. There is a whole lot more to cheerleading than sexuality. Cheerleading existed long before revealing outfits became a part of it. Beyond that, many squads compete in gymnastic-like competitions that take a lot of skill and talent. The revealing outfits are a sad side effect of society with women, not an inherent part of cheerleading. Trust me, Notre Dame cheerleaders aren't wearing anything revealing during cold October and November games - and they still are a welcome and traditional part of games.
are you going to the game to watch football or watch a pep squad?

although I did find myself watching the cheerleaders last Saturday night a bit more than usual since our teams was stinking up the field.
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are you going to the game to watch football or watch a pep squad?

although I did find myself watching the cheerleaders last Saturday night a bit more than usual since our teams was stinking up the field.
I go to watch the games, of course. But when I was in college, one of my best friends was on the ND's cheerleading squad - and was actually quite famous across campus for his energy and excitement (any girl on campus knew who "psycho cheerleader" was - and he actually ended up being put in the startup video for NCAA Football on the XBox and PS2 - I think it was for NCAA 2006). He definitely (along with the rest of the squad) got the fans into the game even more. That cheerleading squad was a part of the game - regardless of what anyone was wearing.
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So, just because it's revealing that makes it about sex?

Then I guess all those girls doing gymnastics or swimming in Olympics aren't actually competing or doing something they've always wanted to do. It's all about sex. I mean, it has to be about sex, why else are they doing gymnastics or swimming in something other than an ankle-length dress or in business suit and slacks.
I'm sorry, Cheerleading is a sport?

Listen to yourself... If you are trying to say that sex and sexuality are not major themes of cheerleading, then I will leave you to the aforementioned river of DNile.




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I 100% disagree with this. There is a whole lot more to cheerleading than sexuality. Cheerleading existed long before revealing outfits became a part of it. Beyond that, many squads compete in gymnastic-like competitions that take a lot of skill and talent. The revealing outfits are a sad side effect of society with women, not an inherent part of cheerleading. Trust me, Notre Dame cheerleaders aren't wearing anything revealing during cold October and November games - and they still are a welcome and traditional part of games.
Yes there is a whole lot more to cheerleading than sexuality. But its a BIG part of it. And the revealing outfits are both a sad commentary AND an inherent part of it, or else, they wouldn't need to wear the skimpy outfits.

The root of the reason why girls always complain about having to adhere to skirt length rules is a sad commentary as well. "Longer skirt length = less attention for me from the boys." I'm serious, thats the mindset. Believe it or don't.

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There is absolutely no VALID reason for it. Only societal reasons that make objects of women.
I think you are confusing society with testosterone. Easy mistake I know, based on the Washington Monument alone.
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I go to watch the games, of course. But when I was in college, one of my best friends was on the ND's cheerleading squad - and was actually quite famous across campus for his energy and excitement (any girl on campus knew who "psycho cheerleader" was - and he actually ended up being put in the startup video for NCAA Football on the XBox and PS2 - I think it was for NCAA 2006). He definitely (along with the rest of the squad) got the fans into the game even more. That cheerleading squad was a part of the game - regardless of what anyone was wearing.

Good story about a wonderful exception to the norm.

If he was a she and she had 34D's, do you suppose he(she) would have been more or less popular?
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Listen to yourself... If you are trying to say that sex and sexuality are not major themes of cheerleading, then I will leave to the aforementioned river of DNile.
Cheerleading is more of a sport than golf or bowling to name a couple.

Cheerleading at sporting events may not themselves be sports, but it still takes athleticism - the kind that requires proper clothing or else running the risk of injury. Are you also mad at the tight, revealing clothes that olympic weightlifters have to lift? I mean, it's not really a sport either and what's the point of having their arms naked and wearing tight clothing if to show off the sexuality of the sport.

Any sex that is found in cheerleading (and, yes, you can find sex in it) is not due to the cheerleading, it's due to society filled with male pervert pigs who could look at a girl in a nun's outfit and still be turned on.
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Good story about a wonderful exception to the norm.

If he was a she and she had 34D's, do you suppose he(she) would have been more or less popular?
And that's cheerleading's fault that she's popular? Or the fact that she has huge boobs and men are pigs?
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I think you are confusing society with testosterone. Easy mistake I know, based on the Washington Monument alone.
I have the normal amount of testosterone, and I'm more than capable of not objectifying women. I think you are confusing testosterone with immaturity.
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Cheerleading is more of a sport than golf or bowling to name a couple.

Cheerleading at sporting events may not themselves be sports, but it still takes athleticism - the kind that requires proper clothing or else running the risk of injury. Are you also mad at the tight, revealing clothes that olympic weightlifters have to lift? I mean, it's not really a sport either and what's the point of having their arms naked and wearing tight clothing if to show off the sexuality of the sport.

Any sex that is found in cheerleading (and, yes, you can find sex in it) is not due to the cheerleading, it's due to society filled with male pervert pigs who could look at a girl in a nun's outfit and still be turned on.
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Cheerleading at sporting events may not themselves be sports, but it still takes athleticism - the kind that requires proper clothing or else running the risk of injury. Are you also mad at the tight, revealing clothes that olympic weightlifters have to lift? I mean, it's not really a sport either and what's the point of having their arms naked and wearing tight clothing if to show off the sexuality of the sport.
Never said I was mad. Just amused at the hypocrisy and denial of it all.

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If that were true, then there would be no debate over length of skirts. But there is. I ask that you examine the source of that debate. The source is sex.
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