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Old 10-27-2010, 01:14 PM
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Question Obama signs in the other Washington

Northbound on I-5 near Chehalis , WA (88 miles south of Seattle )



















The federal government is now petitioning to have these signs removed or Washington state will be denied additional monies for interstate highways?? Washington replied they will secede from the Union rather than be intimidated....


HOW LUCKY CAN WE BE - TO HAVE SUCH BRILLIANT MINDS IN CHARGE OF OUR ONCE GREAT COUNTRY?
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Wow. That's offensive, obnoxious and dumb. And you're proud of this?
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I am just the messenger...

The fact that Washington State put these up at will, and refuse to take them down.
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Finally, someone outlines Obama's policies in a format even I can understand!

Hunters are terrorists!!!!!!
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Too bad real life doesn't have spell check.

I thoroughly enjoyed 1, 3, 5, 6, and 9 though, and are in line with my usual complaints. 4 and 7 are merely fear mongering rhetoric. 2 is stupid to bring up considering past PsOTUS have had those czars, including Republicans. The name of the position has always been in bad taste, and the use of them overall is a slight on the Constitution, but no one *****ed about Bush's, why ***** about these? Well, I shouldn't say no one, some did, just not many, and certainly not many of those *****ing now.
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Northbound on I-5 near Chehalis , WA (88 miles south of Seattle )
The federal government is now petitioning to have these signs removed or Washington state will be denied additional monies for interstate highways?? Washington replied they will secede from the Union rather than be intimidated....


HOW LUCKY CAN WE BE - TO HAVE SUCH BRILLIANT MINDS IN CHARGE OF OUR ONCE GREAT COUNTRY?
Are they really threatening them (who paid for the signs anyway)?

Governmental threats are completely unconstitutional based on freedom of speech.

That is exactly why the founders encorporated the right to bear arms.

If this ad campaign is privately sponsored and the government interferes, it is time for a different government.
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Wow. That's offensive, obnoxious and dumb. And you're proud of this?
What specifically are you referring to?

I agree that government interference is all of those things.

If you are referring to freedom of speech in regards to the content, just remember that it is an opinion.
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Are they really threatening them (who paid for the signs anyway)?

That is completely unconstitutional.

That is exactly why they encorporated the right to bear arms.

If this ad campaign is privately sponsored and the government interferes, it is time for a different government.
Actually, depends on how you look at it. Before I say this, let it be noted that I am not, in any way, defending the actions of the government in this case. Anyway, I believe the premise may be that it could be argued some of them would be libel/slander. Freedom of Speech is null and void if you are lying with malicious intent towards someone. It could be argued to be the case int his instance, as the signs display the idea that these things come from Obama. The onus would be on those who put up the signs to prove they are not lies with malicious intent.
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hmmmmm i see the federal government opening up a SECOND lawsuit against a state.
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Actually, depends on how you look at it. Before I say this, let it be noted that I am not, in any way, defending the actions of the government in this case. Anyway, I believe the premise may be that it could be argued some of them would be libel/slander. Freedom of Speech is null and void if you are lying with malicious intent towards someone. It could be argued to be the case int his instance, as the signs display the idea that these things come from Obama. The onus would be on those who put up the signs to prove they are not lies with malicious intent.
Agreed.

That is why I was wondering who paid for it.

If they were paid for by state or local government I would find it to be inappropriate and a waste of tax payer dollars.

If it was paid for by a private goup...

Another thing that comes to mind is how does this differ from any other political satire from a legal stand point?
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Hmmm... slandering the president to try and garner votes for local candidates.

Smacks of desparation.
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Agreed.

That is why I was wondering who paid for it.

If they were paid for by state or local government I would find it to be inappropriate and a waste of tax payer dollars.

If it was paid for by a private goup...

Another thing that comes to mind is how does this differ from any other political satire from a legal stand point?
Intent. With satire, the intent is to poke fun at a situation or person. If these are intended as satire, then they would be fine. If they are intended as an actual political message, then things could get a little dicey. Again, the people who put them up would just have to prove there was no malicious intent behind it.
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Currently the signs are still up and in use with others on the way? Damn Washington...

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Ok, are you saying the state of Washington paid for the signs?

Or that they're defending their citizens' right to privately put up the signs?

The first is wrong. The second is right.
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Ok, are you saying the state of Washington paid for the signs?

Or that they're defending their citizens' right to privately put up the signs?

The first is wrong. The second is right.
2-Private citizen- Washington is defending their right.
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Ok, are you saying the state of Washington paid for the signs?

Or that they're defending their citizens' right to privately put up the signs?

The first is wrong. The second is right.
is it wrong for tax dollars to be spent on a lawsuit against a state?

if not, it's not wrong for tax dollars to be spent criticizing the government.
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is it wrong for tax dollars to be spent on a lawsuit against a state?
When it comes to a legitimate issue of the state doing something it's not supposed to do? No.

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if not, it's not wrong for tax dollars to be spent criticizing the government.
When it comes to a legitimate issue of the federal government doing something it's not supposed to do? It isn't.

The problem in both cases is when it comes down to frivolous stuff. The sign about the czars, I would ask where it was during the Bush administrations. The stuff about the claims of people being labeled as terrorists, as well as the comrade thing, that's just fear mongering and has no place in legitimate criticism.
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2-Private citizen- Washington is defending their right.
No problem then, and the state should. Private money on private property, more power to them.

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is it wrong for tax dollars to be spent on a lawsuit against a state?

if not, it's not wrong for tax dollars to be spent criticizing the government.
Representative government. Your tax dollars are already being spent criticizing the government. Or they should be, if you elect people who reflect your views. If you feel you aren't fairly being represented, then run.

As far as lawsuits versus states, we've moved away from sending in the Army whenever the Fed disagrees with the claim of state's rights. This way isn't as much fun, but fewer people are probably shot.
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When it comes to a legitimate issue of the state doing something it's not supposed to do? No.



When it comes to a legitimate issue of the federal government doing something it's not supposed to do? It isn't.

The problem in both cases is when it comes down to frivolous stuff. The sign about the czars, I would ask where it was during the Bush administrations. The stuff about the claims of people being labeled as terrorists, as well as the comrade thing, that's just fear mongering and has no place in legitimate criticism.
people skipped over the czars when criticizing bush and simply talked about killing him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_o...282006_film%29

http://www.stampnews.com/stamps/stam...32_648873.html

could you imagine if stuff like that was done for obama?
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is it wrong for tax dollars to be spent on a lawsuit against a state?

if not, it's not wrong for tax dollars to be spent criticizing the government.
There was once a war fought here deciding whether the states were subordinate to the federal government. You might wanna reasearch it sometime. Fascinating stuff.

(BTW- the federal government won.)
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No problem then, and the state should. Private money on private property, more power to them.



Representative government. Your tax dollars are already being spent criticizing the government. Or they should be, if you elect people who reflect your views. If you feel you aren't fairly being represented, then run.

As far as lawsuits versus states, we've moved away from sending in the Army whenever the Fed disagrees with the claim of state's rights. This way isn't as much fun, but fewer people are probably shot.
don't be so sure we've moved away from that, a judge has ruled that the 20 state lawsuit against the fed over the healthcare bill can go through, and obama likes to hold a grudge.
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There was once a war fought here deciding whether the states were subordinate to the federal government. You might wanna reasearch it sometime. Fascinating stuff.

(BTW- the federal government won.)
lol its like i said, libs have gone from rage against the machine to praise for the machine.
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people skipped over the czars when criticizing bush and simply talked about killing him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_o...282006_film%29

http://www.stampnews.com/stamps/stam...32_648873.html

could you imagine if stuff like that was done for obama?
Your first link, don't care about. Those aren't Americans that made that movie, and most in America don't even know of its existence, I know I didn't. The second one, we see artistic expressions like that all the time. I don't like seeing it done in such a fashion, but to consider it a threat? The Secret Service investigated it, and didn't see anything behind it. That being said, there have been plenty of threats against Obama, just as there are against every President, so I don't really know what you're trying to say with your post other than deflect from my point.
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lol its like i said, libs have gone from rage against the machine to praise for the machine.
And "conservatives" have gone from praise for the machine to rage against it. Your point?

It's all about whose man is in office.
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Your first link, don't care about. Those aren't Americans that made that movie, and most in America don't even know of its existence, I know I didn't. The second one, we see artistic expressions like that all the time. I don't like seeing it done in such a fashion, but to consider it a threat? The Secret Service investigated it, and didn't see anything behind it. That being said, there have been plenty of threats against Obama, just as there are against every President, so I don't really know what you're trying to say with your post other than deflect from my point.
the point is that criticism of bush went well beyond anything political, and was just plain hatred.

as much as the media wants to drum up hatred of obama to put on display, they are forced to see the criticism is quite valid.
 

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