What to do at QB??

[jsr18]

IMHO, I believe we have seen the last of Carson Palmer in stripes (his own choosing).

What do we do at QB? Take Ryan Mallet at #4? Go after a vet in FA? Maybe both??

Without Carson and Cedric Benson, I fear that next year the offense might even be worse than what we just went through....

Thoughts?

[Millz]

Marvin has already stated that Carson is his guy for next year, so as of now, Carson will be our starting QB next season. If anything, we need to sign a quality backup though for him, and say goodbye to Jordan. I just don't see any QB in the draft worth taking number 4 overall to be the future, but I also wouldn't be against taking one in the 2nd or 3rd round as a backup as well, with a good shot of possibly being a starter one day.

And if Benson doesn't come back, no worries, we will be just fine without him.

[DWright]

Originally Posted by jsr18

IMHO, I believe we have seen the last of Carson Palmer in stripes (his own choosing).

What do we do at QB? Take Ryan Mallet at #4? Go after a vet in FA? Maybe both??

Without Carson and Cedric Benson, I fear that next year the offense might even be worse than what we just went through....

Thoughts?

Did I miss the memo saying Carson isn't a Bengal anymore?

We have 4 years to draft or sign a new quarterback to replace Carson.

[djam]

I cant see Carson retiring personally

[PaPaZeus]

Originally Posted by jsr18

IMHO, I believe we have seen the last of Carson Palmer in stripes (his own choosing).

What do we do at QB? Take Ryan Mallet at #4? Go after a vet in FA? Maybe both??

Without Carson and Cedric Benson, I fear that next year the offense might even be worse than what we just went through....

Thoughts?

My first thought is that Carson doesn't have a choice. He's under contract. Who in their right mind would "choose" to turn down $11.5mil to play football?

However, I do think this draft or next, its time to start grooming a potential replacement. But a mid rounder, not 1st round. Fortunately, we have a legitamate, quality starter in Palmer. He may or may not be what he once was. But the fact is he's a better QB than what 1/2 the teams in the league have.

#9 will be back this year, No Doubt About It!

[fredtoast]

Originally Posted by Millsy

. I also wouldn't be against taking one in the 2nd or 3rd round as a backup as well, .

Originally Posted by PaPaZeus

However, I do think this draft or next, its time to start grooming a potential replacement. But a mid rounder, not 1st round.

I like Lefavour as well as any QB coming out in the mid rounds this year.

And we have lots of other holes that need filling worse than back up QB.

[zwueb]

Originally Posted by jsr18

IMHO, I believe we have seen the last of Carson Palmer in stripes (his own choosing).

What do we do at QB? Take Ryan Mallet at #4? Go after a vet in FA? Maybe both??

Without Carson and Cedric Benson, I fear that next year the offense might even be worse than what we just went through....

Thoughts?

I believe Marvin said Carson is the QB next year(He has lied before though.). Right now I really don't see a vet good enough. Mcnabb will probably be a the best bet but he would not be an upgrade.

Ryan Mallett is going to bust. His throwing motion is to long and slow. He is also about as smart as a rock.

Right I don't think there is any other option besides Carson in less we trade for somebody.

[CINwillWIN]

Originally Posted by fredtoast

I like Lefavour as well as any QB coming out in the mid rounds this year.

And we have lots of other holes that need filling worse than back up QB.

I do too. He will be a very quality back-up behind Carson.

[BengalRugby]

The Bengals do nothing.

If they decide to do anything, I'd hope they'd sign a vet back up to help Carson see things the defense is doing. Having a rookie behind him does nothing for the team.

[fredtoast]

Originally Posted by zwueb

Ryan Mallett is going to bust. His throwing motion is to long and slow. He is also about as smart as a rock.
.

He can't handle any heat in the pocket either.

[Mike M (the other one)]

Originally Posted by PaPaZeus

My first thought is that Carson doesn't have a choice. He's under contract. Who in their right mind would "choose" to turn down $11.5mil to play football?

However, I do think this draft or next, its time to start grooming a potential replacement. But a mid rounder, not 1st round. Fortunately, we have a legitamate, quality starter in Palmer. He may or may not be what he once was. But the fact is he's a better QB than what 1/2 the teams in the league have.

#9 will be back this year, No Doubt About It!

Ever heard of Barry Sanders?
Stuck on a team going nowhere that wouldn't trade him or release him from his contract?

[pat5775]

Keep Carson



Get rid of T.O. and possibly Chad


Use the recievers we have now and maybe draft another one who will consistently run the correct routes and be in the correct spot.



Fire Bratkowski



QB problems solved

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by zwueb

Mcnabb will probably be a the best bet but he would not be an upgrade.

Ok, I rarely go against CP9, but McNabb is a proven winner in the playoffs and went to 4 straight NFC Championships. To say he won't be an upgrade is pure bogus. I didn't say I want McNabb because I don't but learn the truth. Let me guess you probably think he's bad because he got benched for Grossman? Wrong. He and Kyle Shanahan(Head Coach's son) got into a disagreement about the playbooks so daddy came to the rescue and benched Donovan.

[fredtoast]

Originally Posted by Mike M (the other one)

Ever heard of Barry Sanders?
Stuck on a team going nowhere that wouldn't trade him or release him from his contract?

Barry Sanders is one of my all time favorite players, but that was stupid move on his part.

The Lions had made the playoffs 5 of the 7 years prior to his retirement after the '98 season, and they made the playoffs again the next year after he left. So he was actually playing on a decent team. And then he ended up having to pay back a large portion of his signing bonus.

[djam]

Originally Posted by zwueb

I believe Marvin said Carson is the QB next year(He has lied before though.). Right now I really don't see a vet good enough. Mcnabb will probably be a the best bet but he would not be an upgrade.

Ryan Mallett is going to bust. His throwing motion is to long and slow. He is also about as smart as a rock.

Right I don't think there is any other option besides Carson in less we trade for somebody.

Mallet is a system QB just like Brohm was....he'll bust

[fredtoast]

Originally Posted by 85Plus81EqualsMagic

Let me guess you probably think he's bad because he got benched for Grossman?.

No, I think he is bad because his production was horrible this year. He only completed 58% of his passes and threw more ints than tds.

McNabb looks like he is finished.

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by fredtoast

No, I think he is bad because his production was horrible this year. He only completed 58% of his passes and threw more ints than tds.

McNabb looks like he is finished.

McNabb's numbers were the product of being on a team who's only real receiver is Chris Cooley. That being said his numbers no doubt should have been better but he had no help his O-Line was awful the running game was inconsistant and like I said his only real receiving threat was Cooley.

[pat5775]

Originally Posted by 85Plus81EqualsMagic

Ok, I rarely go against CP9, but McNabb is a proven winner in the playoffs and went to 4 straight NFC Championships. To say he won't be an upgrade is pure bogus. I didn't say I want McNabb because I don't but learn the truth. Let me guess you probably think he's bad because he got benched for Grossman? Wrong. He and Kyle Shanahan(Head Coach's son) got into a disagreement about the playbooks so daddy came to the rescue and benched Donovan.

You do realize that football is a team sport, right? It amazes me how many people don't seem to realize this. So McNabb has played the majority of his career with the Eagles, and Carson has spent his entire career with the Bengals. The Eagles were a great team all around for much of McNabb's tenure, and the for most of Carson's career the Bengals have been... the Bengals. Whether it be a horrid defense, bad coaching, or a bad front office, Carson has never had the stability McNabb has had in Philly. One man is not 100% responsible for the success of a team (and vice versa). McNabb did not single-handedly lead his team to 4 straight NFC Championship games, he had a lot of help on well-coached, highly talented teams. You think if McNabb played on the Bengals for the past 10 years he'd have taken this team to 4 AFC Championship games? Not likely.

[fredtoast]

Originally Posted by 85Plus81EqualsMagic

McNabb's numbers were the product of being on a team who's only real receiver is Chris Cooley. That being said his numbers no doubt should have been better but he had no help his O-Line was awful the running game was inconsistant and like I said his only real receiving threat was Cooley.

He got outplayed by REX GROSSMAN who was throwing to the same receivers.

I think that is a sure sign that he is finished.

[jfkbengals]

Originally Posted by 85Plus81EqualsMagic

McNabb's numbers were the product of being on a team who's only real receiver is Chris Cooley. That being said his numbers no doubt should have been better but he had no help his O-Line was awful the running game was inconsistant and like I said his only real receiving threat was Cooley.

Are you sure you didn't mean Fred Davis?

[Millz]

Originally Posted by fredtoast

I like Lefavour as well as any QB coming out in the mid rounds this year.

And we have lots of other holes that need filling worse than back up QB.

Oh I want to keep Lefavour as a backup. And if Jordan stays, I hope he(Jordan) goes back to the number 3 spot then. I just wouldn't mind getting a QB in the mid-rounds that has tons of upside that can replace Jordan and possibly has potential to be a starter someday. But only if we can't sign a credible backup as a free-agent, since we don't have one. And yes, backup QB is the least of their worries, so I agree there.

[OSUfan]

Originally Posted by jsr18

IMHO, I believe we have seen the last of Carson Palmer in stripes (his own choosing).

What do we do at QB? Take Ryan Mallet at #4? Go after a vet in FA? Maybe both??

Without Carson and Cedric Benson, I fear that next year the offense might even be worse than what we just went through....

Thoughts?

Go ahead and write it down now. Carson will be the QB for the Bengals in 2012. Not sure what makes you think otherwise. His choices are limited seeing as he is under contract. His choice would be retirement and I do not see him deciding that.

Without Benson we will be fine. I actually look forward to Bernard Scott finally getting the chance to show he is a feature back in the NFL. He has better vision and is more explosive.

[MRMEYERS]

Originally Posted by jsr18

IMHO, I believe we have seen the last of Carson Palmer in stripes (his own choosing).

What do we do at QB? Take Ryan Mallet at #4? Go after a vet in FA? Maybe both??

Without Carson and Cedric Benson, I fear that next year the offense might even be worse than what we just went through....

Thoughts?

you do nothing, anything other then a franchise QB is a wasted pick, Jordan is better then any late round pick, and LeFavour is as good as anything else your going to get plus he has had a year under his belt of nfl practice time

[bradfritz21]

This season, Carson looked horrible for most of the season, but look at the games before the end of the year and realize how often he tried to force the ball to Chad and T.O., partly because they'd ***** if he didn't and partly because Bratkowski's horrible and had them as the main targets on most plays. That, along with the fact that we didn't establish the run, receivers running the wrong routes, T.O. not going after hard catches and running a lot of wrong routes, and you have a system designed for Carson to fail.

Stop handicapping Palmer with bad play calling and diva receivers, and you'll see him return to form to lead this team to wins.

[henrizzle]

Originally Posted by 85Plus81EqualsMagic

Ok, I rarely go against CP9, but McNabb is a proven winner in the playoffs and went to 4 straight NFC Championships. To say he won't be an upgrade is pure bogus. I didn't say I want McNabb because I don't but learn the truth. Let me guess you probably think he's bad because he got benched for Grossman? Wrong. He and Kyle Shanahan(Head Coach's son) got into a disagreement about the playbooks so daddy came to the rescue and benched Donovan.

McNabb had great players all around him in Philly, that's why the TEAM was so successful. It definitely wasn't all Donovan. It sure didn't hurt that Andy Reid was his coach either. He went to Washington and crashed and burned. It's a team sport