Blaine Gabbert equals Sam Bradford?

[Supreme1]

I defiantly havent been on board with taking a QB at 4. I just dont think there is a QB in this years draft worthy of that honor but today I saw something interesting. So im watching sportsnation and Micheal Smith, a espnvil reporter and former columnist, has Gabbert as the number one QB as most people do and he says Gabbert has the same ?'s as Sam Bradford did coming out of OU. Spread offense and such. Then I got to thinking how do these too QB's compare. Both Big 12 QB's that ran similar style systems and have good arms. We all know what Bradford did leading his team 1 game away from the playoffs his rookie year with less talent than we have here. Now if we take the risk of picking Gabbert if he's there and he comes close to being another Sam Bradford the we have our franchise QB. What are some of your opinions on this.

[osu1fan2002]

Originally Posted by Supreme1

I defiantly havent been on board with taking a QB at 4. I just dont think there is a QB in this years draft worthy of that honor but today I saw something interesting. So im watching sportsnation and Micheal Smith, a espnvil reporter and former columnist, has Gabbert as the number one QB as most people do and he says Gabbert has the same ?'s as Sam Bradford did coming out of OU. Spread offense and such. Then I got to thinking how do these too QB's compare. Both Big 12 QB's that ran similar style systems and have good arms. We all know what Bradford did leading his team 1 game away from the playoffs his rookie year with less talent than we have here. Now if we take the risk of picking Gabbert if he's there and he comes close to being another Sam Bradford the we have our franchise QB. What are some of your opinions on this.

My question is what would Bradfords record be if he played for the Bengals?

There division is not even close to what ours is.

If you think he wins 8-9 games with the Bengals, then I say draft him, if not then leave him

[Hammerstripes]

They both played in a spread offense, that's just about where the comparisions stop.


In Bradford's 2 full years of starting, he threw for 3121 yards and 4720 yards and a completion % of over 67% both years.

36 tds and 8 ints in 2007
50 tds and 8 ints in 2008

Gabbert doesn't even come close to that accuracy or production level.

[warsteiner138]

Bradford is a lot better than Gabbert.

Bradford would be the clear number 1 pick in this draft as well.

Gabbert was about a successful in college as Jimmy Clausen(warning sign?)

[osu1fan2002]

Just curious the difference between Blaine Gabbard and Chase Daniels, both seem to be the same player to me from the same school.

[BengalUSCfan]

Originally Posted by Hammerstripes

They both played in a spread offense, that's just about where the comparisions stop.


In Bradford's 2 full years of starting, he threw for 3121 yards and 4720 yards and a completion % of over 67% both years.

36 tds and 8 ints in 2007
50 tds and 8 ints in 2008

Gabbert doesn't even come close to that accuracy or production level.

Thank you for a blast of sanity. I can remember watching Bradford in college and hating him 'cause he was such a force. I have not a single recollection of being wow'ed by Gabbert. And Colt McCoy smoked him with Texas.

If I had my 'druthers, I'd take a big ugly DT in the first and go offense with the next 3 picks.
QB, Lineman, and WR.

[SunsetBengal]

I am going to agree with the other posters in this thread, Blaine Gabbert is no Sam Bradford by a long shot. You can say that they both come from spread offenses, but that is about it. Heck, Oklahoma's spread is more like an all-game-long NFL style two minute drill. Bradford is the current measuring stick for that sort of QB, Gabbert is just some guy with the right 'measuables' that the media want to hypebole into the next great thing.

Personally, I would pass on Gabbert.

[JungleRock85]

I agree with the above posters, absolutely terrible comparison. Bradford was much more productive in college and has a lot more pocket awareness. The only comparison is that they are both Quarterbacks from the same conference that have been discussed as high draft picks leading up to their respective drafts. Guess who else was talked about a lot leading up to the draft at QB, Jimmy Clausen. I never saw it. If you were not productive in college I do not see you coming to the NFL with greater quality on defense and tearing it up. Another reason I prefer Mallet in the 2nd round. Productive, strong arm, and accurate passer. Any QB in this draft is a risk compared to a lot of other years but I would go with someone in the 2nd round like Mallet, Dalton, or even Ponder.

[McC]

I think we end up with whoever Jay thinks he can win with, so I've been trying to leave my personal preferences out of it, which will prevent me(hopefully) from throwing things when the pick is made.

Actually, I have a lot more concern about getting the other picks right than I am about the QB. In Jay, I trust.

[t3r3e3]

Originally Posted by Supreme1

I defiantly havent been on board with taking a QB at 4. I just dont think there is a QB in this years draft worthy of that honor but today I saw something interesting. So im watching sportsnation and Micheal Smith, a espnvil reporter and former columnist, has Gabbert as the number one QB as most people do and he says Gabbert has the same ?'s as Sam Bradford did coming out of OU. Spread offense and such. Then I got to thinking how do these too QB's compare. Both Big 12 QB's that ran similar style systems and have good arms. We all know what Bradford did leading his team 1 game away from the playoffs his rookie year with less talent than we have here. Now if we take the risk of picking Gabbert if he's there and he comes close to being another Sam Bradford the we have our franchise QB. What are some of your opinions on this.

Only difference is Bradford put up elite stats and led his team to outstanding seasons, and Gabbert put up average at best numbers and his team didn't do much. There's no way that Gabbert = Bradford. If Luck were in this draft Gabbert would be lucky to be a Top 15 pick.

[Headcase72]

Originally Posted by Hammerstripes

They both played in a spread offense, that's just about where the comparisions stop.


In Bradford's 2 full years of starting, he threw for 3121 yards and 4720 yards and a completion % of over 67% both years.

36 tds and 8 ints in 2007
50 tds and 8 ints in 2008

Gabbert doesn't even come close to that accuracy or production level.

You need to think that Oklahoma has alot better talent than does Missouri so he should put up better numbers.When has Missouri been a powerhouse in football.They are like the Northwestern of the big 10.

[Headcase72]

Originally Posted by t3r3e3

Only difference is Bradford put up elite stats and led his team to outstanding seasons, and Gabbert put up average at best numbers and his team didn't do much. There's no way that Gabbert = Bradford. If Luck were in this draft Gabbert would be lucky to be a Top 15 pick.

I think the scouts and analysts put too much on the type of system a QB plays in.To me what it comes down to is arm,ability to read defenses and making the right decision with the ball.If the QB puts in the time to learn the pro system he should not have a problem but alot of players are lazy and only want the money like Akili Smith.I think Gabbert will be a very good QB in time and alpot of people on here will eat there words,

[bfine32]

Originally Posted by Hammerstripes

They both played in a spread offense, that's just about where the comparisions stop.

Really it stops there? No comparison in size, mobility, arms strength, delivery, intellegence, work ethic, ect....? I would have thought there was more.

So would you say Chase Daniels is a better Pro prospect than Gabbert? He put up better numbers in the exact same offense or is there something else that makes Gabbert a better prospect?


As to the comparison Blaine reminds me more of Josh Freeman and it's not just because they played in similar Offenses.

[Supreme1]

Originally Posted by osu1fan2002

My question is what would Bradfords record be if he played for the Bengals?

There division is not even close to what ours is.

If you think he wins 8-9 games with the Bengals, then I say draft him, if not then leave him

Well seeing as how seeing the browns won more games than us...and Sam Bradford is cleary better than colt mccoy or seneca wallace heck even joe flacco. Dare I say above 500.

[JoePong]

Gabbert came out a year sooner than anyoen expected. Most thought he would stay for another year. So, by grabbing him this year you might be able to get a real bargain - because his stock could have gone way up if he stayed his senior year.

[SunsetBengal]

Originally Posted by JoePong

Gabbert came out a year sooner than anyoen expected. Most thought he would stay for another year. So, by grabbing him this year you might be able to get a real bargain - because his stock could have gone way up if he stayed his senior year.

That 'stock' could have just as easily went down as well, just ask Jake Locker about that.

[ibengals]

I agree with the others, Blaine Gabbert is nowhere near Sam Bradford. It's like someone said here, when Andrew Luck dropped out, other QBs just got hyped up more to try to replace him. The fact is, Luck was the only clear cut number one quarterback that had a chance this year, the rest are just trying to replace him.

[t3r3e3]

Originally Posted by Headcase72

I think the scouts and analysts put too much on the type of system a QB plays in.To me what it comes down to is arm,ability to read defenses and making the right decision with the ball.If the QB puts in the time to learn the pro system he should not have a problem but alot of players are lazy and only want the money like Akili Smith.I think Gabbert will be a very good QB in time and alpot of people on here will eat there words,

He may be, but if Cincy drafts him and throws him to the wolves, he'll be the second coming of David Klingler. Gabbert's biggest drawbacks, to me, are the fact that at Mizzou he was a 1 read and throw it QB, took all snaps from the gun, and didn't put up the stats to merit his lofty projections. Dude might be athletically gifted as all get out, but the fact is he put up weak stats against average defenses. That's scary.

[spinksjinx]

Originally Posted by t3r3e3

He may be, but if Cincy drafts him and throws him to the wolves, he'll be the second coming of David Klingler. Gabbert's biggest drawbacks, to me, are the fact that at Mizzou he was a 1 read and throw it QB, took all snaps from the gun, and didn't put up the stats to merit his lofty projections. Dude might be athletically gifted as all get out, but the fact is he put up weak stats against average defenses. That's scary.

Gabbert stinks, he struggles to throw it deep. He has a deer in the headlights look even out of the spread. The guy looks lost and stares down his 1st target and either A. runs for 2 yards and takes a hit, or B. throws it away.

Gabbert is only being talked about because they needed a squeaky clean white kid after Luck said he wasn't coming out. Where was Gabbert before Luck decided to stay? 2nd at best possible 3rd?

The guy ran a SPREAD offense in the Big 12 and put up a lousy what 16 TDs and barely 2000+ yards? The Big 12 HAS NO DEFENSE.

Gabbert is trash.

[Supreme1]

Im about to watch his entire game against Oklahoma. Since I havent seen much film and I dont watch QB highlights this is goning to be interesting.

[Joelist]

I do wish people would stop lumping Oklahoma's "spread" in with the rest. It really isn't a true spread and uses a fair number of pro concepts - including having the QB up under center a significant amount of the time.

[SunsetBengal]

Originally Posted by Joelist

I do wish people would stop lumping Oklahoma's "spread" in with the rest. It really isn't a true spread and uses a fair number of pro concepts - including having the QB up under center a significant amount of the time.

What you just said explains exactly why Sam Bradford was ready to start as a rookie, and why Blaine Gabbert should be drafted by a team willing to wait a year or two for him to be able to function properly in the pros.

[crazyjdawg]

If Blaine Gabbert is the number 4 overall pick, by the Cincinnati Bengals, I'm turning off the channel and I will quite possibly find a 2nd team to root for. I would never abandon the Bengals, but drafting Gabbert is the equivalent of flushing 4 or 5 years of the franchise down the drain. Having a second team to watch succeed in the meantime would ease the pain.

[pdub2005]

Originally Posted by McC

I think we end up with whoever Jay thinks he can win with, so I've been trying to leave my personal preferences out of it, which will prevent me(hopefully) from throwing things when the pick is made.

Actually, I have a lot more concern about getting the other picks right than I am about the QB. In Jay, I trust.

Yeah in Jay I trust... not. More like in Jay I hope.. In Jay I have optimisim. jury is out on the hire till we get a season under our belts. Anyone is better than Brat tho. Mallet all the way! Kaepernick 2nd fav.

[ishouldbegm]

blaine gabbert = bobby hoying