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Old 12-20-2011, 11:29 PM
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Simple question. Kolb or Skelton?

Kolb, by all accounts, is the more talented of the two. (See draft spot, trade value, and 6 year 65 million deal) In his last start he did manage to lead Arizona to win over Dallas, which may be their best win to date.

Skelton on the other hand has won 5 of his 6 starts. His numbers aren't great, but for whatever reason they've played pretty well with behind center.

Do you want to go with facing the more talented of the two, or the hot hand?
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Simple question. Kolb or Skelton?

Kolb, by all accounts, is the more talented of the two. (See draft spot, trade value, and 6 year 65 million deal) In his last start he did manage to lead Arizona to win over Dallas, which may be their best win to date.

Skelton on the other hand has won 5 of his 6 starts. His numbers aren't great, but for whatever reason they've played pretty well with behind center.

Do you want to go with facing the more talented of the two, or the hot hand?
They are winning with Skelton, but he is MUCH worse.

And if we go by just the raw rating that PFF uses, he's the 3rd worst QB in the league (after Painter, and by a longshot, Gabbert).
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Don't care either way. Play the damn game.

Get the defense the lead and let Zim come after him and double up Fitz.
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I want to face Kolb no question. My friend is a Cards fan so if the bengals arent on i watch the arizona game with him. Kolb is SLIGHTLY a better overall QB but i like facing him better than skelton for 1 reason. Skelton LOVES to target Larry Fitzgerald while Kolb spreads it out more. I don't like our chop shop secondary against Fitz so the less targets the better.
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:20 AM
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I want Kolb. The Cardinals needed a QB just as badly was we did going into this season. And while we went the route of correctly scouting, and selecting our QB in the draft, they went a different route. We managed to find some decent value in the 2nd round. They elected to ship a 2nd round pick and a quality corner, then ink Kolb to a 65 million dollar deal. I want to beat that guy. I think it would somewhat validate the route we took, and show that we may have played our cards (no pun) better than someone else for once. And that someone else just so happens to be a team that is two years removed from a Super Bowl appearance. I don't mean to say that the Kolb signing's success rides on this one game, or he was a bad choice. But I'd love to see our rookie led team beat their 65 million dollar investment lead team.

Also, we just faced two backups, and I don't want any of the talking heads to diminish our wins for any reason. Give me their starter, and let's make a little statement this week. Fair or not, we all know it's hard for the Bengals to get credit nationally. Back to back wins over Clemmens and Skelton will just leave the skeptics with something else to point to when they're doubting us.
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Playing against Kolb would pretty much guarantee us a win.
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Skelton is 5-1 as a starter, but Kolb has shown an amazing ability to seamlessly transition from being overpaid to stand on the sidelines with a concussion in Philly to being overpaid to stand on the sidelines with a concussion in Arizona.

I'd say it's a toss-up.
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I want to say Skelton, because he is still a backup QB playing on the road in colder weather.


However, if Kolb starts he has been out for a few games and the offense might not get into rythm right away.
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Get the defense the lead and let Zim come after him and double up Fitz.
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:58 AM
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There is not really a drop off from Kolb to Skelton or vice versa IMO... They are both decent... The key is pressuring whoever it is.. lol
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:00 AM
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Both. That means we are getting enough pressure on the QB to knock one out. Nothing serious or anything but, hey, it's time to win at all cost!
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:02 PM
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That's tough. Different reasons for both,....Current qb is hot, bench qb is a better overall player. I say, it don't matter. I think playing the BEST and winning against them is FINALLY what we need to do. So, the best for them now is the CURRENT starter.
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Both. That means we are getting enough pressure on the QB to knock one out. Nothing serious or anything but, hey, it's time to win at all cost!
I like this idea. Sounds like the best option to me!
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Skelton isn't good at all. The wins he has are more of a result of excellent defensive and special teams improvement. So I'd rather face him than Kolb, who while not very good, can manage the offense pretty well
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Simple question. Kolb or Skelton?

Kolb, by all accounts, is the more talented of the two. (See draft spot, trade value, and 6 year 65 million deal) In his last start he did manage to lead Arizona to win over Dallas, which may be their best win to date.

Skelton on the other hand has won 5 of his 6 starts. His numbers aren't great, but for whatever reason they've played pretty well with behind center.

Do you want to go with facing the more talented of the two, or the hot hand?
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Simple question. Kolb or Skelton?

Kolb, by all accounts, is the more talented of the two. (See draft spot, trade value, and 6 year 65 million deal) In his last start he did manage to lead Arizona to win over Dallas, which may be their best win to date.

Skelton on the other hand has won 5 of his 6 starts. His numbers aren't great, but for whatever reason they've played pretty well with behind center.

Do you want to go with facing the more talented of the two, or the hot hand?
It does not matter to good teams who the QB is they will be facing they prepare for both and they are prepared by the coaching staff to win.
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Kolb. In his limited playing time he's missed a lot of snaps. Were he the starter, the passing gameplan would be built around his skill set, which is very different than Skelton's. An injury to Kolb in the game would have a drastic change on what they can/will do versus what they practiced and prepared to do. Thus I want Kolb in there.
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Kolb. We need a good momentum win with no excuses... Best they have please, we need to playing at our highest level as well...
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