Let's Forfeit our draft

[CinciREborn]

Let's forfeit Our draft
We have a bad history drafting so let's not take the chance

^^^makes as much sense as not drafting a first rd back because we have a bad history with it

[JungleRock85]

Originally Posted by CinciREborn

Let's forfeit Our draft
We have a bad history drafting so let's not take the chance

^^^makes as much sense as not drafting a first rd back because we have a bad history with it

Someone is upset because I don't agree with their opinion and mock draft. It's okay man. Add all the facts of the conversation as well. I said we don't have a good history with first round RB's and unless it is Trent Richardson I see no need to reach for Lamar Miller when guys like David Wilson, Doug Martin, Isaiah Pead, and Lamichael James are all similar in talent.

[CinciREborn]

Originally Posted by JungleRock85

Someone is upset because I don't agree with their opinion and mock draft. It's okay man. Add all the facts of the conversation as well. I said we don't have a good history with first round RB's and unless it is Trent Richardson I see no need to reach for Lamar Miller when guys like David Wilson, Doug Martin, Isaiah Pead, and Lamichael James are all similar in talent.

I'm not upset
The point just isn't valid
Iv seen Alot of people make it.
It's ad valid as the title of the thread

[JungleRock85]

Originally Posted by CinciREborn

I'm not upset
The point just isn't valid
Iv seen Alot of people make it.
It's ad valid as the title of the thread

Not saying you never draft a RB high because of that history but it is a simple statement on why a lot of us won't mind if we wait on that position. The running back position is just not the same as it used to be. I can't speak for everyone else but I have other actual reasons why I don't want us to reach for that position this year. One is because most teams use more than just one RB. Unless you absolutely know you are getting a superstar you can wait a round or 2 because your team is going to play RB by committee anyways. Two as I have mentioned I don't think Miller is a major talent upgrade compared to the RB's that are available in rounds 2-3.

[Hammerstripes]

You have to look at the depth of the position.

After Richardson, there are several backs that carry similar grades:

Miller, Wilson, Martin, Polk, Pead.....

There's no point in reaching at that spot when 1 of those guys will be there in the 2nd round.

[CinciREborn]

I can live with those arguments

I however can't live with the "we have a bad history of backs in the first rd"

That's = dumbest, most pointless and meaningless point someone could make

[WHO_DEY_51]

Originally Posted by CinciREborn

I can live with those arguments

I however can't live with the "we have a bad history of backs in the first rd"

That's = dumbest, most pointless and meaningless point someone could make

I agree.

There is absolutely no logic in that argument.

[wcu]

The folks talking about not taking a RB in the 1st because of past success (or lack thereof) are probably the same ones saying we wouldn't take a TE in the first a few years ago because it had been so long without one.

[JungleRock85]

Originally Posted by wcu

The folks talking about not taking a RB in the 1st because of past success (or lack thereof) are probably the same ones saying we wouldn't take a TE in the first a few years ago because it had been so long without one.

Nope wanted Gresham and thrilled we got him. Saying we haven't had success at RB early was a portion of one of my posts and not my main point. It is relevant in the sense I don't want to reach for any position in the first round but especially RB because they are not as important as they used to be and also not just for our team but many others staying healthy is big factor in RB's working out more so than a lot of other positions and they just are usually not worth 1st round picks. Same post also mentioned Miller isn't much better than all the other guys in Rds. 2-3 which is the most important not to take him and nothing to do with past success or failure.

[Millz]

Originally Posted by CinciREborn

I can live with those arguments

I however can't live with the "we have a bad history of backs in the first rd"

That's = dumbest, most pointless and meaningless point someone could make

I agree. It's no different than the argument that we shouldn't sign a free agent like at receiver because of Bryant, Coles, T.O. etc.

[Lolli]

Originally Posted by Hammerstripes

You have to look at the depth of the position.

After Richardson, there are several backs that carry similar grades:

Miller, Wilson, Martin, Polk, Pead.....

There's no point in reaching at that spot when 1 of those guys will be there in the 2nd round.

^^^^ This.

Take the best available in the 2nd.

[Lawless_1]

Originally Posted by CinciREborn

Let's forfeit Our draft
We have a bad history drafting so let's not take the chance

^^^makes as much sense as not drafting a first rd back because we have a bad history with it

How the hell does not drafting at all make as much sense as not drafting a back round one?

There are other positions at need like OG, WR, OLB, SS, CB.....

Not drafting at all would just be stupid.

[khamla]

Yes lets forfeit it all and go with all undraftee's because they are hungrier! Like Binn's are #2 guy. I can name a bunch of undraftee's that made a huge impact. I like this approach a lot!

sarcasm!

[xdayvidx]

Originally Posted by JungleRock85

Someone is upset because I don't agree with their opinion and mock draft. It's okay man. Add all the facts of the conversation as well. I said we don't have a good history with first round RB's and unless it is Trent Richardson I see no need to reach for Lamar Miller when guys like David Wilson, Doug Martin, Isaiah Pead, and Lamichael James are all similar in talent.

i dont care who we draft in rounds 1 and 3-7. I WANT DAVID WILSON TO FALL TO US IN ROUND 2!!!

[animal74]

Originally Posted by xdayvidx

i dont care who we draft in rounds 1 and 3-7. I WANT DAVID WILSON TO FALL TO US IN ROUND 2!!!

Unfortunately, I can't see him being there at #53...

RotoWire.com Staff - RotoWire.com Mar 22, 12:43 pm EDT
Update: Wilson is scheduled to visit the Browns and Buccaneers and will work out for the Falcons, Carroll County Times writer Aaron Wilson reports.
Recommendation: The Falcons will need to trade up a long way from their 55th pick if they want a prayer of landing Wilson, who we fully expect to go in the first 40 picks. The Broncos (25), Giants (32), Rams (33 and 39), Buccaneers (36), Browns (37) and Jaguars (38) are all good candidates to take him. Wilson needs to develop better vision and patience as a runner, but he’s extremely gifted in terms of athleticism and runs with unusual power for a runner under 210 pounds.

[McC]

Originally Posted by CinciREborn

I'm not upset
The point just isn't valid
Iv seen Alot of people make it.
It's ad valid as the title of the thread

Are you sure people aren't just saying there's only one first round talent at RB this year?

[Lolli]

Originally Posted by McC

Are you sure people aren't just saying there's only one first round talent at RB this year?

1.8 go on average. So you never know.

[BoomerFan]

Originally Posted by CinciREborn

Let's forfeit Our draft
We have a bad history drafting so let's not take the chance

^^^makes as much sense as not drafting a first rd back because we have a bad history with it

Let's not draft a first round RB because we can get better value with other selections unless something really strange happens.

[CinciREborn]

Originally Posted by Lawless_1

How the hell does not drafting at all make as much sense as not drafting a back round one?

There are other positions at need like OG, WR, OLB, SS, CB.....

Not drafting at all would just be stupid.

Really?!?!?

lol literally haha

do I really have to put a sarcasm tag in the post for people to realize its a joke?

[CinciREborn]

Originally Posted by McC

Are you sure people aren't just saying there's only one first round talent at RB this year?

iv seen multiple times in multiple thread people throwing out our history with first round backs as a reason to not draft another one in the first round

so yes im sure
either that or I do not know how to read
one or the other

[JungleRock85]

Below is my post on the mock draft that started this whole thread. You can be the judge on what my overall point about not taking Miller was.

"Can't waste your first round picks. We don't have a good history with 1st round RB's and unless it is T-rich then stay away from taking a guy that early. The whole thing with Miller is I don't see him as that much better than any of the other guys I mentioned so no need to take him that early."

[CinciREborn]

Originally Posted by JungleRock85

"We don't have a good history with 1st round RB's."

Should have no baring in the conversation
And I have seen this point posted in other threads as well.
I have no problem with people who dont want miller in the first
Alot of the points are valid
truth is all most all of them are
but referring carter and perry as reasons to not draft one is meaningless

[JungleRock85]

Originally Posted by CinciREborn

Should have no baring in the conversation
And I have seen this point posted in other threads as well.
I have no problem with people who dont want miller in the first
Alot of the points are valid
truth is all most all of them are
but referring carter and perry as reasons to not draft one is meaningless

You make my point again because you highlight one thing that was not the point I was making it was just a statement which is actually correct because we have not had a lot of success with 1st round picks at RB. You say you deal in stats and facts so is that not the truth? Once again I was just stating that and then making my point on the other guys in rounds 2-3 being just as good as Miller in my opinion. If you think Miller is that much better than that is fine I don't have a problem with your opinion. But to only mention parts of what someone says so you can feel superior is annoying. I could go through and pick apart every one of your posts as well by stating only part of what you say but I don't want to be that annoying or full of myself.

[alexizhot]

Not a good argument you have there.

In real world terms:

If you typically have bad experiences dating crazy girls, then stop dating crazy girls. Instead, date NORMAL girls. That doesn't mean don't date at all, just stop dating the crazy type.

In NFL terms:

If you have bad experiences taking first round draft RBs, then draft much safer players in other positions, and take RBs when the risk is not as high. Doesn't mean stop drafting. Just learn from your mistakes.

[CinciREborn]

Originally Posted by JungleRock85

You make my point again because you highlight one thing that was not the point I was making it was just a statement which is actually correct because we have not had a lot of success with 1st round picks at RB. You say you deal in stats and facts so is that not the truth? Once again I was just stating that and then making my point on the other guys in rounds 2-3 being just as good as Miller in my opinion. If you think Miller is that much better than that is fine I don't have a problem with your opinion. But to only mention parts of what someone says so you can feel superior is annoying. I could go through and pick apart every one of your posts as well by stating only part of what you say but I don't want to be that annoying or full of myself.

http://boards.bengals.com/showpost.p...75&postcount=1 <-- The thread was not directed only to your post

and apparently it does play a factor in your logic becuase you began with it in your point
Which if I read your point wrong I and misunderstood I apologize
which as you can see from the post above others have made this point
This point is meaningless
Should we stay away from linebackers in the first round cause Keith rivers ***** and hasnt worked out for us?