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Old 06-17-2012, 02:32 AM
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So I might get trashed for saying this but..

durability?

I was thinking about what if AJ Green went down with an injury what would happen to the offense. He was knicked up a few times last season and missed some games.

Then after thinking about it AJ does not have quite the muscle mass as the other top receivers in the NFL like, Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald and I can't help but wonder how hes going to hold up throughout the season and how bad the offense would struggle without him.
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I wouldn't consider that a weakness, considering he is entering his second season. They say he beefed up this offseason, and who knows, he might start the next 5 years without being injured. I would say give him a few years to judge on that.

I couldn't even imagine him being too much bigger - my mind would not allow it. Talk about a monster..

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Just because some one is a bit more wirey does not mean he is more injury prone. Yeah AJ missed a few games, but I think to call him prone to injury is getting a bit ahead of ourselves.
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AJ Green started and played 15 games...
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So I might get trashed for saying this but..

durability?

I was thinking about what if AJ Green went down with an injury what would happen to the offense. He was knicked up a few times last season and missed some games.

Then after thinking about it AJ does not have quite the muscle mass as the other top receivers in the NFL like, Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald and I can't help but wonder how hes going to hold up throughout the season and how bad the offense would struggle without him.
He has a build similar to Chad and he sure played his fair share of games in a time the defenses in our division were brutal hitters. AJ is fine and as he works at this level he will probably add some more mass. His one real knick was a hyper extended knee which has zero to do with his muscle mass and actually we still played relatively well when he went out. Our receiving corp I believe is far better than what we had behind him last season so we should be in better shape if it happened.

I think you could be nit picking just alittle bit.
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Default Re: AJ Greens only weakness?

We could argue Dalton's durability since he missed time in two games last season.

I don't see this as a real issue for green yet.

Shipley is the only person we have on the offense with an injury history

Now that I think about it maybe Lenard as well.

Anyway I think Green is only going to get better and if he gets injured I think we will have the luxury of not going into instant panic mode if he unfortunately does.
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:15 AM
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He has a build similar to Chad and he sure played his fair share of games in a time the defenses in our division were brutal hitters. AJ is fine and as he works at this level he will probably add some more mass. His one real knick was a hyper extended knee which has zero to do with his muscle mass and actually we still played relatively well when he went out. Our receiving corp I believe is far better than what we had behind him last season so we should be in better shape if it happened.

I think you could be nit picking just alittle bit.
I agree with you that our receiving core is definitely upgraded from last year, but do you believe that Sanu, Binns, or anyone is capable of putting up 152 yards againat Baltimore when forced to be the #1 receiver? I am glad that Simpson is no longer here, and that Sanu, Shipley, and Marvin Jones are here and look to be upgrades, but I don't think any of them could step up and put up those big numbers. We would be in deep doo doo without AJ. Gresham would hage to really step up, as well as whoever our #2 will be, whether it is Binns or Sanu.
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I agree with you that our receiving core is definitely upgraded from last year, but do you believe that Sanu, Binns, or anyone is capable of putting up 152 yards againat Baltimore when forced to be the #1 receiver? I am glad that Simpson is no longer here, and that Sanu, Shipley, and Marvin Jones are here and look to be upgrades, but I don't think any of them could step up and put up those big numbers. We would be in deep doo doo without AJ. Gresham would hage to really step up, as well as whoever our #2 will be, whether it is Binns or Sanu.
Sorry but I believe you are being too narrow in your view. You would not have to depend on a single guy but rather use the diverse and talented group you have to create favorable matchups. I am glad you brought up Gresham because he is one of the guys that could seriously help if Green did get knicked up.

We as well have 2 other pretty good receiving TEs in Charles and Cochart. I think we absolutely could win games if Green went down with our receiving corp. If they get open Andy can get them the ball. Brady won a whole lot of games for years without a legit #1 WR.
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I wouldnt say injury prone it was just a nagging injury from him putting his body on the line when he had too and that was just the result, but football is a team sport which means when your superstar goes down the team as a whole needs to step their game up to another level.
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to op: try jumping down 3feet landing on one foot with your body weight slightly forward and your knee locked in at 180degrees. please post the result here.
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Durability is a reach, I'd say gravity and expect him to make major strides towards overcoming it this year.
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His only weakness is eventually being hurt by the tears of his enemies

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AJ's only weakness is Kriptonite !


Because under those stripes on his shirt is a big S friends.
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Old 06-17-2012, 10:58 AM
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The thing about AJ is he has that Jerry Rice, Michael Jordan, Joey Votto thing about him. He only speaks of his weaknesses, never boastful, never satisfied, on a constant pursuit of greatness, will never rest on his laurels. When your best player is your hardest worker, well, now you've really got something.
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Experience, crisp route running (maybe because we've been spoiled by Ocho) and, maybe just my impression, seems to lack that aggressive, killer instinct that you'd want in an elite player.
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The thing about AJ is he has that Jerry Rice, Michael Jordan, Joey Votto thing about him. He only speaks of his weaknesses, never boastful, never satisfied, on a constant pursuit of greatness, will never rest on his laurels. When your best player is your hardest worker, well, now you've really got something.
Man I believe you are very right. I just can not see any better fit for this team than AJ.
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Sorry but I believe you are being too narrow in your view. You would not have to depend on a single guy but rather use the diverse and talented group you have to create favorable matchups. I am glad you brought up Gresham because he is one of the guys that could seriously help if Green did get knicked up.

We as well have 2 other pretty good receiving TEs in Charles and Cochart. I think we absolutely could win games if Green went down with our receiving corp. If they get open Andy can get them the ball. Brady won a whole lot of games for years without a legit #1 WR.
WHile I LOVE seeing him catch the ball, Cochart is awful at receiving...
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The only thing i can think of right now is his ability to get open with all the double teams he will face the rest of his career. His rookie year he got away with it because teams weren't fully aware of his potential. Now teams will lock in on him and i'm curious to see how he does.
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The only thing i can think of right now is his ability to get open with all the double teams he will face the rest of his career. His rookie year he got away with it because teams weren't fully aware of his potential. Now teams will lock in on him and i'm curious to see how he does.
He faced double teams as a rookie and still did pretty darn well. As his knowledge of the game increases and as he learns individual teams and individual players and tendencies he will be even better.
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WHile I LOVE seeing him catch the ball, Cochart is awful at receiving...
You said it so it absolutely must be true. I mean I am sure you can judge his entire NFL career by a rookie season with no OTAs and a shortened training camp after coming in as an UDFA from South Dakota State. Yep....I am sure that his rookie season is where he will peak at.
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AJ's only weakness is Kriptonite !


Because under those stripes on his shirt is a big S friends.
That was my first thought after seeing the thread title. Curse you cards for beating me to it!
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Experience, crisp route running (maybe because we've been spoiled by Ocho) and, maybe just my impression, seems to lack that aggressive, killer instinct that you'd want in an elite player.

What ? Hopefully this was sarcasm because

Chad's rookie year yielded .......28 rec 329 yds 1td
AJ's............................................69 rec 1057 yds 7tds

Heck AJ caught more TD's in his rookie season than Chad did in his first two years combined. In 32 less catches than Chad.
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What ? Hopefully this was sarcasm because

Chad's rookie year yielded .......28 rec 329 yds 1td
AJ's............................................69 rec 1057 yds 7tds

Heck AJ caught more TD's in his rookie season than Chad did in his first two years combined. In 32 less catches than Chad.




That has nothing to do with how crisp a receiver run routes, which was the point of comparison to Ochocinco.
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He has a build similar to Chad and he sure played his fair share of games in a time the defenses in our division were brutal hitters. AJ is fine and as he works at this level he will probably add some more mass. His one real knick was a hyper extended knee which has zero to do with his muscle mass and actually we still played relatively well when he went out. Our receiving corp I believe is far better than what we had behind him last season so we should be in better shape if it happened.

I think you could be nit picking just alittle bit.
Exactly! I guess the creator of the thread forgot about Green's amazing catch over Polamalu. Maybe he should watch the play again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScglTcEjK7w . Go to 3:36.
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